Sentencing for the following crimes.

[Moooooo]

1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family

2.  Robbing a bank

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (unintentional)

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence)

5.  Possession of Child Pornography

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana

7.  1st Degree Rape

8.  1st Degree Murder

9.  Possession of illegal firearm

10.  Treason

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1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family - A low fine/no jail time

2.  Robbing a bank - 15 - 25 yrs

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter - Intentional ?? 20 yrs

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence) - Life

5.  Possession of Child Pornography - 10-15yrs

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana - 5,000$ fine, no jail time.

7.  Rape - 20 years

8.  1st Degree Murder - Death penalty

9.  Possession of illegal firearm - 5-10 depending on severity.

10.  Treason - Death Penalty

[Moooooo]

1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family - Community Service - Aprox. 4 hours

2.  Robbing a bank - 20 years

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (Unintentional) - This one is tough.  5 years probation?

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence) - 15 years

5.  Possession of Child Pornography - 5 years

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana - 1 year Mandatory Drug Rehab and NA meetings at the defendants expense.

7.  1st Degree Rape - Life in prison.  He'll wish he was dead

8.  1st Degree Murder - Life in Prison

9.  Possession of illegal firearm - 5 years for the gun.  2 more for each bullet.

10.  Treason - Life in Prison

[Moooooo]

I changed a few things on the original post.

Rape to - 1st Degree Rape

Vehicular Manslaughter to - Unintentional Vehicular Manslaughter.

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These are my updated answers :

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (Unintentional) - 6 months - 1yr for every count.

7.  1st Degree Rape - Death Penalty depending on severity.

[jerusalemcar5]

1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family:forced to pay for loaf

2.  Robbing a bank:5-10 yrs

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (unintentional):2 yrs

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence):30 yrs (eligible for parole after 20)

5.  Possession of Child Pornography:No jail time, despite sickening nature, I don't believe possession is a crime.

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana:No jail time

7.  1st Degree Rape:40 yrs (eligible for parole after 25)

8.  1st Degree Murder:Life w/o parole

9.  Possession of illegal firearm:10-15 yrs

10.  Treason:Depends on severity. 
Link to loss of lives=life w/ parole eligibility after 35 yrs 

No link to loss of lives=10-15 yrs

[YRABNNRM]

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana - 1 year Mandatory Drug Rehab and NA meetings at the defendants expense.

LOL

Rehab would do nothing for marijuana. It would be a waste of time on everyone's part.

[Nym90]

1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family
Community service

2.  Robbing a bank
25 years

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (unintentional)
5 years

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence)
25 years

5.  Possession of Child Pornography
Possesion of it? A fine or community service. Creating it should be a much stiffer penalty, at least some jail time.

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana
Nothing

7.  1st Degree Rape
25 years

8.  1st Degree Murder
Life without parole

9.  Possession of illegal firearm
Depends on the gun, jail time for some, for others probation/heavy fines

10.  Treason
Life without parole

[MaC]

1. 8 years in prison
2. 500 dollar fine
3. Chinese water torture
4. 10 dollar fine
5. 30 years community service
6. 40 years in prison
7. 30 days in jail and a swift kick to the chest.
8. no sentence
9. death penalty by gas chamber
10. $2.73 fine to be paid in three days or the fine is increased by ten cents each day it is not paid.

[opebo]

1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family
No punishment.

2.  Robbing a bank
1 year
with a weapon, 6 years.

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (unintentional)
probation

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence)
probation, loss of license.  If caught driving without a license subsequently, 10 years.

5.  Possession of Child Pornography
no punishment.

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana
no punishment.

7.  1st Degree Rape
3 years, counseling.  no 'sex offender' registry.

8.  1st Degree Murder
at least 25 years, up to life imprisonment.

9.  Possession of illegal firearm
6 months, followed by long term probation.  If found with firearm during probation, longer prison sentence of several years.

10.  Treason
10 years.

[minionofmidas]

1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family
No punishment. Technically, the punishment should be a fine equal in value to two loaves of bread, but the costs of a trial far outweigh the benefits.

2.  Robbing a bank
Returning the money plus a handful of years in prison

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (unintentional)
A somewhat longer prison sentence - always assuming that, while unintentional, it was still clearly your fault.

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence)
Same

5.  Possession of Child Pornography
"Possession" as opposed to purchase/ecouragement of production/etc? As in, say, aquired for free over the web?
No crime. (And yes, I'm avoiding part of the question. -_- )

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana
No crime, obviously.

7.  1st Degree Rape
8.  1st Degree Murder
How is 1st Degree Murder defined exactly? What the hell is 1st Degree Rape? Forgive me for being a stupid European.
Ah, I see there's a link. I'll follow that.
definition 2. long prison sentence
definition 1. (if consensual and "victim" past puberty) no crime

9.  Possession of illegal firearm
Surrender of weapon; fine of ~couple of hundred dollars.

10.  Treason
by government official of a democracy - lifetime imprisonment. And I do consider actions aimed at undermining democracy as treasonable.
otherwise - charge according to his actions, with no extra charge for "treason".

[Moooooo]

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana - 1 year Mandatory Drug Rehab and NA meetings at the defendants expense.

LOL

Rehab would do nothing for marijuana. It would be a waste of time on everyone's part.

Guess you've never met anyone addicted to pot, and yes, its most definitely possible to be addicted to pot.  My brother dropped out of school at the age of 14, doesnt have a job, refuses to do anything, but sit around and smoke all day.  He's been to in out of the juvenile justice system  for the past 3 years.  And its not a disipline thing becuase we were raised in a decent house.  My dad has tried every punishment in the book including beating the sh**t out of him and nothing works.

[dazzleman]

1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family - Depends on what else she seems to be spending money on -- If she has plenty of money for cigarettes and liquor, then I'd be a lot harsher than if she truly has no money for food.  In the first case, community service and some type of social service intervention.  In the second case, 30 days in jail.

2.  Robbing a bank - 25 years

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (unintentional) - Caused by what?  If reckless driving, and person has a record of reckless driving, 5-10 years.

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence) - 10 years.

5.  Possession of Child Pornography - I have no idea.

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana - Fine/community service

7.  1st Degree Rape - 15 years

8.  1st Degree Murder - Life/Death Penalty

9.  Possession of illegal firearm - with criminal record, 5 years

10.  Treason - At least 25 years/up to death penalty, depending on effects of treason

[dazzleman]

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana - 1 year Mandatory Drug Rehab and NA meetings at the defendants expense.

LOL

Rehab would do nothing for marijuana. It would be a waste of time on everyone's part.

Guess you've never met anyone addicted to pot, and yes, its most definitely possible to be addicted to pot.  My brother dropped out of school at the age of 14, doesnt have a job, refuses to do anything, but sit around and smoke all day.  He's been to in out of the juvenile justice system  for the past 3 years.  And its not a disipline thing becuase we were raised in a decent house.  My dad has tried every punishment in the book including beating the sh**t out of him and nothing works.

Sorry to hear about your brother Nick.  I do think people who always say how harmless pot and other drugs are need to hear stories like these.  Many people are willfully naive to the dangers of even 'harmless' drugs like pot.

[Moooooo]

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana - 1 year Mandatory Drug Rehab and NA meetings at the defendants expense.

LOL

Rehab would do nothing for marijuana. It would be a waste of time on everyone's part.

Guess you've never met anyone addicted to pot, and yes, its most definitely possible to be addicted to pot.  My brother dropped out of school at the age of 14, doesnt have a job, refuses to do anything, but sit around and smoke all day.  He's been to in out of the juvenile justice system  for the past 3 years.  And its not a disipline thing becuase we were raised in a decent house.  My dad has tried every punishment in the book including beating the sh**t out of him and nothing works.

Sorry to hear about your brother Nick.  I do think people who always say how harmless pot and other drugs are need to hear stories like these.  Many people are willfully naive to the dangers of even 'harmless' drugs like pot.

Its no big deal.  As I like to say, thats the path he chose.  It wasnt like we were brought up in extreme poverty and he needed to hustle to make it.  He was given most of the opportunities I was and he chose not to make the right decisions in life... so far.  Hopefully he'll grow out of it.

[dazzleman]

Its no big deal.  As I like to say, thats the path he chose.  It wasnt like we were brought up in extreme poverty and he needed to hustle to make it.  He was given most of the opportunities I was and he chose not to make the right decisions in life... so far.  Hopefully he'll grow out of it.

He might.  I hope so.

Some people just hit rock bottom and stay there.  I know some people like that; no matter how bad the consequences are, they refuse to change their behavior.  You can't worry about their fate because they brought it on themselves.

Your story about your dad beating the s&$t out of your brother reminds me of a story a friend of mine told me when her mother found out her sister was smoking pot.  The mother had the girl upside down and was holding her by her feet, repeatedly smashing her head into the floor as she screamed, "HOW-MA-NY-TIMES-HAVE-I-TOLD-YOU-NOT-TO-DO-THAT?"  Each syllable was synchronized to another smash of her head into the floor.  The moral is -- don't mess with a Puerto Rican mother...

[John Dibble]

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana - 1 year Mandatory Drug Rehab and NA meetings at the defendants expense.

LOL

Rehab would do nothing for marijuana. It would be a waste of time on everyone's part.

Guess you've never met anyone addicted to pot, and yes, its most definitely possible to be addicted to pot.  My brother dropped out of school at the age of 14, doesnt have a job, refuses to do anything, but sit around and smoke all day.  He's been to in out of the juvenile justice system  for the past 3 years.  And its not a disipline thing becuase we were raised in a decent house.  My dad has tried every punishment in the book including beating the sh**t out of him and nothing works.

Sorry to hear about your brother Nick.  I do think people who always say how harmless pot and other drugs are need to hear stories like these.  Many people are willfully naive to the dangers of even 'harmless' drugs like pot.

I wouldn't call marijuana harmless per se, though I don't view it in the same light as crack, heroine, or any of those types of drugs. It's more on the level of alcohol - yes some people will get addicted with all the adverse affects that come with addiction, but most people won't use it so much. I've known quite a few people who use it in about the same moderation that one would use alcohol. So I would say that Andrew's statement about rehab for marijuna being a waste of time is pretty much accurate unless you're going to apply it to specific cases where there actually is true addiction. You wouldn't force a casual drinker to attend AA meetings because there'd be little point in doing so, so I don't see why we would apply a different standard to marijuana.

[??????????]

What should the punishment be for cooking methamphetamine? I say 10-15 years

Consider these facts :

- The sites where these chemicals are brewed stay toxic for a very long time
- The EPA consider such site "toxic dumps"
- People can become ill or have other such residual effects long after the cooking.

I also must add that this is probably one of the most dangerous drugs floating around today and if we're going to wage a "war" on drugs this is the perfect drug to try and wipe off the earth.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family
Straha: A low fine/no jail time/letting her off with a warning

2.  Robbing a bank
Straha: 10-20 years

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (unintentional)
Straha: 25 years

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence)
Straha: Electric chair

5.  Possession of Child Pornography
Straha: 25 to life at minimum

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana
Straha: It would be legal

7.  1st Degree Rape
Straha: Death by castration and anal rape

8.  1st Degree Murder
Straha: tortured to death

9.  Possession of illegal firearm
Straha: There would be no such crime

10.  Treason
Straha: tortured to death

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

What should the punishment be for cooking methamphetamine? I say 10-15 years

Consider these facts :

- The sites where these chemicals are brewed stay toxic for a very long time
- The EPA consider such site "toxic dumps"
- People can become ill or have other such residual effects long after the cooking.

I also must add that this is probably one of the most dangerous drugs floating around today and if we're going to wage a "war" on drugs this is the perfect drug to try and wipe off the earth.

Agree. We need to do a REAL war on drugs like cocaine, heroin, meth, PCP and speed. I'm talking death sentances for everyone caught with more than 1 ounce of those. Exectuion via cruxifixion or something else suitably painful.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family - community service

2.  Robbing a bank - 25 years

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (unintentional) - 5 years probation

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence) - 15 years, loss of license

5.  Possession of Child Pornography - $5000 fine

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana - nothing

7.  1st Degree Rape - 25 years

8.  1st Degree Murder - life without parole

9.  Possession of illegal firearm - depends on the firearm and how many, for just one I'd go with a fine, if they were being stockpiled up to 25 years

10.  Treason - life without parole

Interestingly enough, a child pornography ring that was run only a few blocks away from me was busted up a few months ago, everyone arrested got something from around 17-25 years

[Frodo]

1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family -A week or two in jail, with mandatory classes teaching her job-related skills, and giving her job-placement assistance when she is released.  Her children, meanwhile, are placed in a childcare program, to be returned to their mother upon her release and her employment.

2.  Robbing a bank -25-30 years in jail

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (unintentional) -Ten weeks in jail, with mandatory community service

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence) -One year in jail, along with being given mandatory drug and alcohol treatment throughout the term

5.  Possession of Child Pornography -Six months in jail, as well as being placed on a sex-offenders' registry when released, and (assuming we have the technology) with a computer chip placed under the skin on the back of his neck to keep track of his movements

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana -Nothing

7.  1st Degree Rape -Life sentence without the possibility of parole

8.  1st Degree Murder -Automatic capital punishment via the electric chair or the noose -a lethal injection is too good for the bastard

9.  Possession of illegal firearm -10 to 15 years imprisonment

10.  Treason -See #8

[??????????]

For gun crimes I prefer 10-20-Life.

[Frodo]

Its no big deal.  As I like to say, thats the path he chose.  It wasnt like we were brought up in extreme poverty and he needed to hustle to make it.  He was given most of the opportunities I was and he chose not to make the right decisions in life... so far.  Hopefully he'll grow out of it.

He might.  I hope so.

Some people just hit rock bottom and stay there.  I know some people like that; no matter how bad the consequences are, they refuse to change their behavior.  You can't worry about their fate because they brought it on themselves.

Your story about your dad beating the s&$t out of your brother reminds me of a story a friend of mine told me when her mother found out her sister was smoking pot.  The mother had the girl upside down and was holding her by her feet, repeatedly smashing her head into the floor as she screamed, "HOW-MA-NY-TIMES-HAVE-I-TOLD-YOU-NOT-TO-DO-THAT?"  Each syllable was synchronized to another smash of her head into the floor.  The moral is -- don't mess with a Puerto Rican mother...

So how is her sister?  After punishment like that I have to worry. 

[YRABNNRM]

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana - 1 year Mandatory Drug Rehab and NA meetings at the defendants expense.

LOL

Rehab would do nothing for marijuana. It would be a waste of time on everyone's part.

Guess you've never met anyone addicted to pot, and yes, its most definitely possible to be addicted to pot.  My brother dropped out of school at the age of 14, doesnt have a job, refuses to do anything, but sit around and smoke all day.  He's been to in out of the juvenile justice system  for the past 3 years.  And its not a disipline thing becuase we were raised in a decent house.  My dad has tried every punishment in the book including beating the sh**t out of him and nothing works.

Sorry to hear about your brother Nick.  I do think people who always say how harmless pot and other drugs are need to hear stories like these.  Many people are willfully naive to the dangers of even 'harmless' drugs like pot.

I wouldn't call marijuana harmless per se, though I don't view it in the same light as crack, heroine, or any of those types of drugs. It's more on the level of alcohol - yes some people will get addicted with all the adverse affects that come with addiction, but most people won't use it so much. I've known quite a few people who use it in about the same moderation that one would use alcohol. So I would say that Andrew's statement about rehab for marijuna being a waste of time is pretty much accurate unless you're going to apply it to specific cases where there actually is true addiction. You wouldn't force a casual drinker to attend AA meetings because there'd be little point in doing so, so I don't see why we would apply a different standard to marijuana.

Thanks John, you got to it before I could.