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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« on: May 17, 2021, 11:25:02 AM »

The births are at the lowest level, Freeman of the Braves had invetro fetertillization, even athletes are adopting, abortion isn't even that much a concern anymore because the birth rate thanks to Covid has gone down from 3 to 1.5

The real issue is DC statehood passed n the next election and HR 1 those are the concerns not that much an abortion

If a woman doesn't want a baby after 15 weeks, she should give it up for adoption not abort it
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2021, 07:18:15 PM »

This will energize female voters but they are already energized because Rs aren't offering anything new that Trump didn't offer when he left office 100 days ago

Birth rates have dropped and more people are taking on adoptions as many people don't want to deal with newborns but a kid that is already ready made

Even athletes are adopting

If a female don't have an abortion they can give it up for adoption and a relative can take them on which alot of females are doing
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2021, 11:40:20 PM »
« Edited: May 17, 2021, 11:44:12 PM by MR. KAYNE WEST »

I am not worried about Roe v Wade being overturned, the female can give the baby up for adoption if she chooses she doesn't want to have it

Back during the 90s and 2009s we had higher birth rates and teenage pregnancy, now due to rising cost of living, the birth rates have gone down

It's over, Roe will return abortion back to states and its about time
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2021, 12:06:13 AM »

The decision is gonna be made next yr, not this year anyways, we got a long time, but it's inevitable that Roe will be overturned
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2021, 12:40:20 AM »

The Churches promotes adoptions, and family members whom are able to care for the unwanted baby cab adopt it as well

No one needs to have an abortion, it's just an emotional attachment to the child once the baby is born
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2021, 05:50:55 AM »

As I said before there are so many family members adopting their own relatives now, a female or make partnership to make an unwanted pregnancy can give it up for adoption so that one of their own relatives van get the baby

Birth rates have plummeted, we are at record adoptions since 1979, don't  users on this forum realize that

Kennedy was the one that pretended to be a moderate, and gave Trump the Appointment, this issue is gonna be important but passing DC statehood and HR 1 is more imperative than some adoption

Since  Covid Birthrates have plummeted and adoptions are at records, even Athletes and celebritied are adopting, you can surpass the in meant state and get a ready made child
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2021, 08:38:26 AM »

Susan Collins will have egg on her face.

No she doesn't she voted for Sam Alito in 2006
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2021, 10:20:58 AM »

Susan Collins along with Olympia Shower voted for Alito as well im 2006, and they knew he was pro life. So did Murkowski, the fake Moderates
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2021, 12:10:18 PM »

As I said before there are so many family members adopting their own relatives now, a female or make partnership to make an unwanted pregnancy can give it up for adoption so that one of their own relatives van get the baby

Birth rates have plummeted, we are at record adoptions since 1979, don't  users on this forum realize that

Kennedy was the one that pretended to be a moderate, and gave Trump the Appointment, this issue is gonna be important but passing DC statehood and HR 1 is more imperative than some adoption

Since  Covid Birthrates have plummeted and adoptions are at records, even Athletes and celebritied are adopting, you can surpass the in meant state and get a ready made child

Adoption really isn’t this magic replacement for abortion. For many who oppose abortion but don’t think it’s  necessarily murder, adoption and abortion are wrong for the same reason. That reason is that abortion and adoption are avoiding doing things that society relies on you to do. A lot of those people see not paying child support the same as abortion.

On the other side of the coin, a lot of people, even those considering abortion, are not comfortable with adoption because it’s “selling your children”. The act of abandoning a child is also more traumatic to some than abortion. For every person who regrets an abortion, there’s probably a person who regrets adoption just as much.

This might be hard for many people to understand which should again bring us back to this idea that some groups of people don’t have or ever will have same type of empathy as other groups of people when it comes to certain things. Abortion being one of them. If abortion isn’t a religious issue then it is quite possibly a neourophenotypal issue.

In a way, it’s even worse if it’s the latter because if you punish people involved in abortion with murder it might not be anyway different than punishing a puppy for peeing on the rug 3 hours ago. Like many other issues with moral underpinnings, the motivations for advocacy on this issue are mostly quite selfish.

I was talking about families whom give up their children for adoption that have other family members that want the children, like my family situation this has happened.

But celebrities and athletes whom have the money love to adopt, they don't have the time to keep making babies, Freddie Freeman, Rosie O'Donnell, Buster Posey, especially White families where males fertility is lower.  

But, churches promotes adoptions, that's what they do, but it's very expensive to adopt, but the media just said adoption is at its highest point since 1979
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2021, 06:06:29 PM »

It's not necessary to have an abortion it was never necessary, adoption was at records in 1970s and 1980s and thanks to Covid, we are returning back to adoptions
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2021, 01:08:49 AM »

They aren't going to ban abortion or completely overturn Roe v. Wade.

Most likely scenario is they allow some of the restrictions red states are trying to pass through, but it will have little practical effect because those states have already minimized abortion access through various means anyway. Blue states will still be free to keep things as they are with no significant changes.

That's my prediction, anyway.

This is pretty obviously the likeliest outcome, given that - again - the only question which the Court actually chose to grant cert on was "are all pre-viability prohibitions on elective abortion unconstitutional?" Within the scope of said question, the worst that the Court can really do is only hold that not all pre-viability abortion bans are automatically unconstitutional (i.e., that some can indeed be valid) before then remanding the rest of the case back to the lower courts to try & decide whether or not the MS restriction in & of itself is constitutional, thereby leaving a decision concerning the particular details thereof for another day. For the time being, though, the central holdings of Roe/Casey - that women still hold the constitutional right to have an abortion - won't be touched in that the confines of this case as they're currently constituted don't really provide an angle through which they can even be touched yet, at least insofar as the Court doesn't really have the ability to say anything here beyond "we're open to hearing states out on why pre-viability bans may be constitutional."

Granted, this obviously helps to lay the groundwork for a potential "death-by-a-thousand-cuts" approach at striking down the foundations of our abortion jurisprudence, but it's not the inherent death-knell that many are arguing it is in & of itself.

Abortion are not necessary unless the moms health is at stake, it's just an emotional attachment to the child if she gives it up for adoption
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2021, 01:42:57 AM »

Before there were abortions in the 1950s, females were fine in giving up their babies for an adoption
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2021, 07:43:59 AM »

Democrats in January  2021: oH mY gOd, Democrats have all three branches, can’t wait for statehood, massive gun control, HR 1, UBI, increased abortion rights, 15 dollar minimum wage, banning of gerrymandering all by the SUMMER1!1!2!2!2!1!1!2!
Reality enters the chat: wellllll hoooow dO you do??

Manchin is endangered of losing anyways in 2024/ even in a Neutral Environment he won't survived, he doesn't have the backbone to nuke the Filibuster or push thru Statehood

But the Election is 500 days it's a Neutral Environment not an R wave which can blossom into a blue Wave
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2021, 11:06:51 AM »

Greg Abbott just signed a 6 week abortion ban, why should we as makes care so much about female reproductive rights

The females have the right to use the morning after pill, condoms, birth control and adoptions are the highest levels since 1979, there isn't a need for abortion anymore in a high tech society right now
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2021, 11:44:24 PM »

After MS law is confirmed, this will have a profound effect but that what Conservatives wanted when Trump got Kennedy to retire
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2021, 12:35:24 PM »

Here’s your daily preview of what will be increasingly common after abortion becomes illegal again.]https://www.wsaw.com/2021/02/13/green-co-teen-accused-of-killing-newborn-daughter-pleads-not-guilty/]Here’s your daily preview of what will be increasingly common after abortion becomes illegal again. A 16-year-old boy and his 14-year-old girlfriend get pregnant, hide it for nine months, and then she gives birth in a bathtub. They decide they can’t raise the child, so the boy then puts his infant daughter in his backpack, goes out into the woods, and shoots her twice.

That my friends is why abortion should be legal, unrestricted, and publicly funded.

These are very rare cases, adoption has been on the rise since 1979 and what did people do with their newborns when they didn't want them before abortion, give them up for adoption, c'mon my mom worked for an adoption agencies in 1980s, it peaked during that time

Sixties it was a rule to give up for adoptions haven't you heard of Little orphan Annie during 1950s
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2021, 08:17:20 PM »

I think you would see mass mobilisation of pro-choice Americans and a mass drain of demographic and economic drain from states where there would be default anti-choice legislation.



So, Ohio, West Virginia, Missouri, Iowa are doomed economically?

I think states with punitive abortion law will see both economic boycotts and a drain of young people. Women have much more social mobility than they did pre Roe.

'Big Pro-Life' is well connected and powerful but it is not popular. Repealing Roe ends the grift.
This is just silly

It’s hard enough to find a job or a house nowadays. Educated women aren’t going to leave booming places like Nashville, Atlanta, Austin, etc because of abortion laws.

At most, they’ll travel out of state to get an abortion.

People do not base their lives on certain laws, much less laws on a hypothetical situation that may never happen

You don't have to travel out of state for anything, it's just an emotional attachment if you give the baby up for adoption a from Egyptian time until the 1970s babies were left on doorsteps to their relatives or given up for an adoption, it's a myth that abortion is the only way to give up a baby

Many relatives even as adolescent are given to other relatives to adopt and get paid for it
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