Arapahoe/Jefferson vs. Adams Counties, CO
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« on: May 15, 2021, 06:39:23 PM »

I wanted to ask about the story of three Denver metro area suburban counties. In the 2004 Presidential election, John Kerry narrowly won Adams County while narrowly losing Arapahoe and Jefferson counties. Adams remained moderately more Democratic than the two other counties in the 2008 and 2012 Presidential elections. By 2016 Arapahoe was more Democratic than Adams and Adams was the only county where Trump increased the absolute Republican percentage from 2012. In last year's Presidential election, Jefferson also was more Democratic than Adams with Arapahoe pulling far ahead. Is there a reason Adams County has gone from being the most Democratic county to the least of the Denver metro counties especially since Adams has been a largely Democratic county since 1960? Is Adams County more working-class? It would seem that Adams's comparatively large Latino population would encourage it to be more Democratic.
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2021, 06:49:12 PM »
« Edited: May 15, 2021, 07:12:32 PM by lfromnj »

Well one thing is the airport is kind of in Adams county with an arm from Denver actually taking it. Airport regions of any cities are pretty working class. See O'Hare in Chicago or Philly's airport and Tinicum township. Obviously current trends across the nation mean working class suburbs will have either not trended Democratic or trended Republican.
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2021, 06:52:35 PM »
« Edited: May 15, 2021, 06:56:49 PM by I believe Beth van Duyne »

Is Adams County more working-class? It would seem that Adams's comparatively large Latino population would encourage it to be more Democratic.

It's both of these. Commerce City is ~50% Hispanic and Brighton is ~40% Hispanic whereas on the whole Arapahoe is only about 10%. Commerce City is basically a bedroom community for service and manual workers. Brighton is an old farming and rail town that also has some manufacturing - I'd actually wager that a lot of workers in Brighton stay to work in Brighton rather than commute into the city.

Westminster and Thornton are more like the white professional parts of the Denver metro (like Centennial etc. in Arapahoe, but probably more liberal).

edit: Another useful geographical tidbit is the Platte River flows North out of Denver and through western Adams County (right through Brighton). Has always made that part of the metro more suitable for agriculture and industry. Western Arapahoe is mostly just Denver sprawl.
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2021, 08:55:09 PM »
« Edited: May 15, 2021, 09:01:49 PM by 306 »

Generally speaking:

Most of Adams is fairly working-class. This is especially true of the areas immediately north of Denver and east of the Platte, and especially the areas south of the airport right along the border with Arapahoe. Adams is more middle class on its western edge, and especially towards the border with Broomfield.
Arapahoe east of Denver is also a quite working-class suburban part of the Denver metro.
Arapahoe south of Denver is the wealthiest suburban part of the Denver metro (this bleeds into Douglas but the wealthiest parts are in Arapahoe).
Jefferson immediately west of Denver is fairly working class but very quickly turns into the middle class to upper-middle class suburbia once you're about ten minutes west of the Denver border. Southern Jefferson along the border with Arapahoe is also quite wealthy, though not quite as much as  the wealthy parts of Arapahoe.

Overall, Jefferson is probably the wealthiest of the three counties on average, but Arapahoe has the wealthiest suburbs, as well as probably the poorest ones in Aurora. Adams has some middle class areas but doesn't really have any upper-middle class areas and no wealthy areas and has more working-class areas than Arapahoe or (especially) Jefferson.

Racial demographics are also somewhat relevant. Adams has a high Latino population and more working class whites than the other counties, while the working-class areas in Arapahoe County have significant black populations and also some working class whites (in both cases, "working class white" has to be caveated that these are of course service industry people or at most they work at the airport or in light industry or construction - there's very little heavy industrial or mining history in Denver that tends to define the white working class elsewhere). The narrow working class strip of Jefferson is also mostly Latino but is pretty small.
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2021, 09:22:31 PM »

Because Adams County is a different planet.
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2021, 09:50:34 PM »

Generally speaking:

Most of Adams is fairly working-class. This is especially true of the areas immediately north of Denver and east of the Platte, and especially the areas south of the airport right along the border with Arapahoe. Adams is more middle class on its western edge, and especially towards the border with Broomfield.
Arapahoe east of Denver is also a quite working-class suburban part of the Denver metro.
Arapahoe south of Denver is the wealthiest suburban part of the Denver metro (this bleeds into Douglas but the wealthiest parts are in Arapahoe).
Jefferson immediately west of Denver is fairly working class but very quickly turns into the middle class to upper-middle class suburbia once you're about ten minutes west of the Denver border. Southern Jefferson along the border with Arapahoe is also quite wealthy, though not quite as much as  the wealthy parts of Arapahoe.

Overall, Jefferson is probably the wealthiest of the three counties on average, but Arapahoe has the wealthiest suburbs, as well as probably the poorest ones in Aurora. Adams has some middle class areas but doesn't really have any upper-middle class areas and no wealthy areas and has more working-class areas than Arapahoe or (especially) Jefferson.

Racial demographics are also somewhat relevant. Adams has a high Latino population and more working class whites than the other counties, while the working-class areas in Arapahoe County have significant black populations and also some working class whites (in both cases, "working class white" has to be caveated that these are of course service industry people or at most they work at the airport or in light industry or construction - there's very little heavy industrial or mining history in Denver that tends to define the white working class elsewhere). The narrow working class strip of Jefferson is also mostly Latino but is pretty small.
Having read this post, I looked back at 90s elections, where I guessed the class divide would be the strongest. Turns out in both of Clinton's elections, Clinton won Adams and lost Araphoe and Jefferson.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2021, 03:13:43 AM »

I wanted to ask about the story of three Denver metro area suburban counties. In the 2004 Presidential election, John Kerry narrowly won Adams County while narrowly losing Arapahoe and Jefferson counties. Adams remained moderately more Democratic than the two other counties in the 2008 and 2012 Presidential elections. By 2016 Arapahoe was more Democratic than Adams and Adams was the only county where Trump increased the absolute Republican percentage from 2012. In last year's Presidential election, Jefferson also was more Democratic than Adams with Arapahoe pulling far ahead. Is there a reason Adams County has gone from being the most Democratic county to the least of the Denver metro counties especially since Adams has been a largely Democratic county since 1960? Is Adams County more working-class? It would seem that Adams's comparatively large Latino population would encourage it to be more Democratic.
Arapahoe County has the largest black population in the state - higher than in Denver.

Historically, the black population in Denver has been in east Denver. As it has become more middle class the black population has continued to move east into Aurora.

Arapahoe is narrower than Adams, 12 miles vs. 18 miles, but even narrower when you consider the location of Denver. Arapahoe County used to include what is now Arapahoe, Adams, most of Denver, and stretched east to Kansas. Denver was the county seat.

When the City and County of Denver was created, the perception of the remainder of the county would be agricultural areas to the south and north of the city. Since they were physically separated, they were placed in different counties. The area to the east was (and is) largely empty. Eventually, Washington and Yuma were created in the very east end.

Littleton, the county seat of Arapahoe County is in the extreme southwestern corner of the county. Brighton, the county seat of Adams County is on the northern border. While Brighton is northeast of Denver, it is still in the western 1/6th of the county.

The area of Arapahoe County south of Denver is only about 6 miles wide, and Denver has annexed areas that are suburban. Denver has a more reliable water supply, and would make deals with developers to annex their land in exchange for water.

The area south of Denver was filled up decades ago. If you are building new houses they are going to be in Douglas or southern Jefferson. Houses in Englewood are quite modest, and largely pre-WWII.

The area east of Denver is in Aurora. Aurora developed their own water sources, and so can serve new developers and there is unlimited land. East of Denver is less favored because it is further from the Mountains. There is also good access to the airport. Blue collar workers from the old airport (Stapleton) might reasonably move out to Aurora. Aurora was traditionally on the Arapahoe-Adams line (on E Colfax), but most of the growth has been on the Arapahoe side, and the city now reaches Douglas County. It can't really develop to the north because of the airport, but might have some development to the east along I-70. These areas might be somewhat disfavored for residential development since they may be in the approach and departure paths for the airport.

The historic industrial area in Denver was along the Platte northwest from downtown. This extended into Adams. The only refinery is in Commerce City. As the Platte Valley widened out in Adams it was more suitable for irrigated agriculture. South of Denver is higher, so the weather is literally cooler. Pollution flows downhill, so the brown cloud would flow into Adams. The Platte Valley is shallower to the south, and the wind can disperse pollution better.

There are areas literally on the northern border of Denver that were never annexed. They were not desirable additions to Denver, which would prefer residents who paid more in taxes than they required in services.

Adams has good access to the airport. Large tracts of land are amenable to manufacturing. They can build large structures of precast concrete with large production space, and large areas for storing raw materials and finished product. Outside there is space for loading docks and parking for workers.

Adams had less population to start with, and more area to expand. While the workers won't be well off, they will be in Adams County rather than Douglas County.

Jefferson County is somewhat limited. Expansion into the foothills is expensive and limits growth except for the extreme south and north ends. The north end is mostly filled up, and the south end is limited as the eastern boundary follows the Platte River into the mountains. A major employer in Jefferson County is the Federal Center. Many agencies have their regional headquarters in Denver. Government workers will vote to the left of the private sector.
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