Could Romney win in 2008?

[Lincoln Republican]

If Romney doesn't get the nomination because he is Mormon, it won't be the label of "Mormon" that kills him; rather it will be facts of what Mormons truly believe. and those facts will be fatal to his campaign.

But, if Romney claims that he was simply raised Mormon and doesn't know a whole lot about it, then he will be given a pass.   

I must disagree with your statement.  It makes no sense.  The worst thing anyone could do, in this case we are talking about a prominent public figure, is to make a false claim about their beliefs and their faith, and to deny really knowing much or really believing much about their own faith.  This would be seen as hypocritical and as opportunistic.  No one would have any respect for you after that.

"Mormons" are mainline Christians, and Romney has nothing to be ashamed of in his beliefs.

Those who really know little or nothing about the faith of others, either than what they have heard or been told, are not in a position to judge or determine what others "truly believe."  The fact is, they just don't know what others "truly believe."             

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Winfield,

Are you Mormon?

[Joe Republic]

I would expect Romney to do better than expected in Michigan, due to family name recognition.  Not very much though.

Actually, if I think about it, applying the same logic elsewhere means that Bush should have performed well in Connecticut.

[Nym90]

I would expect Romney to do better than expected in Michigan, due to family name recognition.  Not very much though.

Actually, if I think about it, applying the same logic elsewhere means that Bush should have performed well in Connecticut.

Exactly. It's been nearly 40 years since George Romney was Governor of Michigan. It won't have much effect, just like Bush didn't get a boost in Connecticut just because his grandfather was once a Senator from the state.

[Citizen James]

If Romney doesn't get the nomination because he is Mormon, it won't be the label of "Mormon" that kills him; rather it will be facts of what Mormons truly believe. and those facts will be fatal to his campaign.

But, if Romney claims that he was simply raised Mormon and doesn't know a whole lot about it, then he will be given a pass.   

I must disagree with your statement.  It makes no sense.  The worst thing anyone could do, in this case we are talking about a prominent public figure, is to make a false claim about their beliefs and their faith, and to deny really knowing much or really believing much about their own faith.  This would be seen as hypocritical and as opportunistic.  No one would have any respect for you after that.

"Mormons" are mainline Christians, and Romney has nothing to be ashamed of in his beliefs.

Those who really know little or nothing about the faith of others, either than what they have heard or been told, are not in a position to judge or determine what others "truly believe."  The fact is, they just don't know what others "truly believe."             

I agree with you as to the fact that LDS is a part of the Christian mainstream.  (abeit with many members leaning toward the conservative and statist positions).  However, as unfair as it is there is a bias against Mormons among many fundementalist factions.   In a way, he could be considered a Kennedy-like candidate, having to overcome old biases to set new precidents.

I actually think he would have an easier time winning the general than the primaries.  He wouldn't be my first choice, but I would seriously consider him ahead of some of my less favored Democrats (e.g. Hillary).

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I agree with you as to the fact that LDS is a part of the Christian mainstream.

Mainstream Christianity does NOT believe humans will become God.  Nor does it believe that God the Father was once a man created by another god.

Mainstream Christianity views those beliefs as heresy, regardless if they are flying under the banner of “Christianity”.

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However, as unfair as it is there is a bias against Mormons among many fundementalist factions.

and for good reason.  we also are biased against David Koresh and the Branch Davidians.

And fair or not, we reserve the right to define what we consider extreme deception.

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In a way, he could be considered a Kennedy-like candidate, having to overcome old biases to set new precidents.

comparing Mormonism to Catholicism is like comparing a machine gun to a pellet gun.  The machine gun is much more dangerous.

[opebo]

But, I'm sure a study of Mormon beliefs would be too freaky even for this forum.  That would be one scary Pandora’s Box to open.

Look who's talking!

comparing Mormonism to Catholicism is like comparing a machine gun to a pellet gun.  The machine gun is much more dangerous.

You're anti-Catholic?  That's hilarious.

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But, I'm sure a study of Mormon beliefs would be too freaky even for this forum.  That would be one scary Pandora’s Box to open.

Look who's talking!

A word was secretly brought to me, my ears caught a whisper of it. Amid disquieting dreams in the night, when deep sleep falls on men, fear and trembling seized me and made all my bones shake. A spirit glided past my face, and the hair on my body stood on end. It stopped, but I could not tell what it was. A form stood before my eyes, and I heard a hushed voice: Can a mortal be more righteous than God? Can a man be more pure than his Maker? If God places no trust in his servants, if he charges his angels with error, how much more those who live in houses of clay, whose foundations are in the dust?

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comparing Mormonism to Catholicism is like comparing a machine gun to a pellet gun.  The machine gun is much more dangerous.

You're anti-Catholic?  That's hilarious.

The machine gun is Mormonism.

[Lincoln Republican]

Raving Lunatic! 

[Reaganfan]

Mitt Romney has really risen to become a lead contender for the 2008 Republican Nomination, and I feel that he would be a very strong candidate. I think he will be the lead contender along with John McCain, and Mike Huckabee.

[The Dowager Mod]

Romney has an almost zero percent chance of ever getting elected president, he would carry Utah and Idaho not much else.

[© tweed]

A word was secretly brought to me, my ears caught a whisper of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

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A word was secretly brought to me, my ears caught a whisper of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

no, rather it is Job 4:12-19

12 "A word was secretly brought to me,
       my ears caught a whisper of it.

 13 Amid disquieting dreams in the night,
       when deep sleep falls on men,

 14 fear and trembling seized me
       and made all my bones shake.

 15 A spirit glided past my face,
       and the hair on my body stood on end.

 16 It stopped,
       but I could not tell what it was.
       A form stood before my eyes,
       and I heard a hushed voice:

 17 'Can a mortal be more righteous than God?
       Can a man be more pure than his Maker?

 18 If God places no trust in his servants,
       if he charges his angels with error,

 19 how much more those who live in houses of clay,
       whose foundations are in the dust?' "

[Alcon]

A word was secretly brought to me, my ears caught a whisper of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

no, rather it is Job 4:12-19

12 "A word was secretly brought to me,
       my ears caught a whisper of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

[Kevin]

Romney/Sanford Vs. Clintion/Bayh

[KEmperor]

A word was secretly brought to me, my ears caught a whisper of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

LMAO

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A word was secretly brought to me, my ears caught a whisper of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

LMAO

"Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts."  (Psalm 95:7; Heb 3:7)

[Reignman]

General election is a yes, but not the primary.

[Alcon]

A word was secretly brought to me, my ears caught a whisper of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

LMAO

"Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts."  (Psalm 95:7; Heb 3:7)

"Shut up." (Jesus 6:14; Trolling 3:12)

[MODU]

"Could" he?  Yes.  "Will" he?  Doubtful.

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"Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts."  (Psalm 95:7; Heb 3:7)

"Shut up." (Jesus 6:14; Trolling 3:12)

"In any case, I must keep going today and tomorrow and the next day." (Luke 13:33)

[°Leprechaun]

" 17 'Can a mortal be more righteous than God? "

Yes, indeed!! If the latter arbitrarily punishes people for no reason
at all with painful brutal hellfire for all eternity and the former is even slightly disturbed by such an idea (which was obviously meant only as a metaphor, nonetheless).
 
 
 
 

[°Leprechaun]

Has it occured to anyone that trying to reason with jmfcst is even a greater waste of time than trying to talk to a Borg?

In other words, resistance if futile.

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" 17 'Can a mortal be more righteous than God? "

Yes, indeed!! If the latter arbitrarily punishes people for no reason
at all with painful brutal hellfire for all eternity and the former is even slightly disturbed by such an idea.

"Would you discredit my justice? Would you condemn me to justify yourself?"  (God speaking to Job, Job 40:8 )

[°Leprechaun]

" 17 'Can a mortal be more righteous than God? "

Yes, indeed!! If the latter arbitrarily punishes people for no reason
at all with painful brutal hellfire for all eternity and the former is even slightly disturbed by such an idea.

"Would you discredit my justice? Would you condemn me to justify yourself?"  (God speaking to Job, Job 40:

indeed I would