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KaiserDave
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« on: May 05, 2021, 12:55:06 PM »

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KaiserDave
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2021, 02:41:47 PM »

Nope
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2021, 10:16:21 PM »

If it's not already clear, not signing this
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2021, 10:36:59 PM »

Allowing confiscation for merely possessing a certain gun is just asking for unnecessary shootouts that would put law enforcement in danger. I would also like to see some evidence that these measures would reduce deaths. While I appreciate the governor's opposition, I can't say for sure that the votes exist to sustain his veto.

They can just wear bullet proof vests then? Also is the evidence not the rest of the world? Why is Atlasia the only nation in the world that has frequent mass shootings? Australia doesn't, the UK doesn't, Canada doesn't, etc. It's because they actually passed laws to strictly regulate gun ownership, which we had passed before, but it was unwisely repealed. Honestly, these are just NRA talking points, and it'll be a great disgrace, if this doesn't pass.

Do you think that a bullet-proof vest makes one invincible? And I would like to see evidence supporting these specific measures.

Arguing with S019 on guns is like banging one's head against a brick wall
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2021, 10:53:45 PM »

Waste of text to argue with S019, I am not signing this in any case.
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2021, 10:55:59 PM »

Waste of text to argue with S019, I am not signing this in any case.

You'll probably be overridden.

I know this to be wrong.
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2021, 12:48:34 PM »

Don't let S019's radical anti-gun positions fool you. No one is proposing to "seize all the guns" or other such nonsense (which would be blatantly unconstitutional)
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This seems to me like a broadly acceptable gun control bill; at least as originally written by Wulfric. Other than a handgun ban (which is probably excessive); everything else is more than reasonable.

I would like to ask the Governor what is so objectionable about the bill. (especially since I do not share Wulfric's optimism; overriding a veto is very unlikely to happen)

The handgun bill is absolutely objectionable
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2021, 12:54:05 PM »

Don't let S019's radical anti-gun positions fool you. No one is proposing to "seize all the guns" or other such nonsense (which would be blatantly unconstitutional)
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This seems to me like a broadly acceptable gun control bill; at least as originally written by Wulfric. Other than a handgun ban (which is probably excessive); everything else is more than reasonable.

I would like to ask the Governor what is so objectionable about the bill. (especially since I do not share Wulfric's optimism; overriding a veto is very unlikely to happen)

The handgun bill is absolutely objectionable

Yeah I agree on that. Anything else? Because if not there is an easy compromise here Tongue
Not a big fan of the shotgun ban and changing the mental health clause
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2021, 04:01:16 PM »

I am not signing a handgun ban under any circumstances
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KaiserDave
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2021, 05:12:46 PM »

After thinking about this, I will veto this piece of legislation because of two reasons.

1. "Adequate reason" is far too vague for a very important section
2. I don't support a ban on shotguns, they are a far too common method of self defense, especially in Lincoln's vast rural areas

If these concerns are amended, I may reconsider.


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