LGC 1.3 - Establishment of New Flag/Seal - Passed

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

The Consolidated Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act, Title I, Sections 2 and 3, shall be amended to read as follows:

Section 2. Flag

The official Flag of Lincoln shall be depicted with —
(1) a field of forest green with 14 white five pointed stars arranged in a circle on the right side
(2) a white fielded canton in the top left corner
(3) a silhouette of an evergreen tree, signifying liberty, in the center of the canton

Visual Reference:

Section 3. Great Seal

The Great Seal of Lincoln shall feature —
(1) a forest green circle
(2) a ring of white five pointed stars within the circle
(3) a blank pencil drawing of Abraham Lincoln facing forward in the center-right area of the circle
(4) The Latin phrase "Veritas non potentia legem facit" written in white on the lower left side, within and not touching any stars
(5) The phrase "Great Seal of the North" written in white in the lower center, above and not touching any stars

Visual Reference:

Sponsor: Dwarven Dragon, on behalf of Governor KaiserDave
Occupying: Slot 3 of 14

[KaiserDave]

Deputies, we need a new look for Lincoln, I think we can all agree the current situation just doesn't represent us. The current flag is a weird red yellow combination with a sailboat. It is utterly confusing and aesthetically horrifying.

Even the original creator of it says we should abolish it!

[AGA]

What is the meaning of this flag?

[KaiserDave]

What is the meaning of this flag?

The green field represents the natural beauty of Lincoln, the tree is the tree of liberty, a common theme in our history, and each state is one of the constituent states of Lincoln.

[AGA]

Is there any other flag with a top-left corner that has a white background? It blends into the page.

[KaiserDave]

Is there any other flag with a top-left corner that has a white background? It blends into the page.

Well, the description distinguishes what is the flag and what isn't

[Nyssus]

I would certainly support making this our regional flag.

[KaiserDave]

Assuming there are no objections, can we pass this?

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Moving for a final vote

[Leinad]

Not sure I like the way the writing's on the seal. Flag's good, I'm definitely good with that although if I hadn't been sick this week maybe I would've crafted my own version (the idea that sparks in my head is a tricolor with some kinda gold for crop fields on the left, blue for the coast on the right, and in the middle the white with the green tree like here).

But I do think this is a nice looking flag. Old-school Vermont vibes (and Cascadia which kinda throws me off, but Fremont doesn't have a monopoly on trees!)

[KaiserDave]

I'd like to vote, unless Leinad has specific recommendations for changing the writing on the seal.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Honestly whether what Leinad said is an objection is open to interpretation, but in in the interest of keeping this bipartisan I'll say it is.

The question is on the motion to move to a final vote.

Aye

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Aye - this new symbolism looks great - Abraham Lincoln Forever!

[AGA]

Aye

[Leinad]

Oh no I have no better ideas, and afraid not the specific skills to make them look good!

And yeah, I'll be clear when making objections, I was just sharing some less-important thoughts since I had missed debate.

Aye

[SN2903]

Looks good to me. Aye!

[JoeInator]

Aye

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

I ask unanimous consent that this vote to move to final passage is also treated as the vote on final passage itself. Once the time runs out tomorrow night, the bill shall be considered passed, by the same margin by which this vote to move to final passage succeeded, and shall be sent to the Governor for his decision.

24 hours to object.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

The Ayes are 6, the Nays are 0, and one not voting. Two thirds being in the affirmative, the motion is agreed to.

I ask unanimous consent that this vote to move to final passage is also treated as the vote on final passage itself. Once the time runs out tomorrow night, the bill shall be considered passed, by the same margin by which this vote to move to final passage succeeded, and shall be sent to the Governor for his decision.

24 hours to object.

Hearing no objection, the bill is hereby considered passed on a vote of 6-0 with one not voting.

[KaiserDave]

Yes!

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Yes, I congratulate Lincoln on finding a good replacement for the original flag and seal (which I honestly cringe at now every time I see them). A sad price to pay for not being an expert vexillographer like the Honorable John Dule!

If I may ask, what is the new motto supposed to translate to? The original motto on the wiki is "Verum potestatem facit lex". I forget if that's the correct translation, but the original motto was meant to translate as "Truth, not authority, makes law", which itself is a liberal (in the political sense) inversion of a Thomas Hobbes quote.

[KaiserDave]

Yes, I congratulate Lincoln on finding a good replacement for the original flag and seal (which I honestly cringe at now every time I see them). A sad price to pay for not being an expert vexillographer like the Honorable John Dule!

If I may ask, what is the new motto supposed to translate to? The original motto on the wiki is "Verum potestatem facit lex". I forget if that's the correct translation, but the original motto was meant to translate as "Truth, not authority, makes law", which itself is a liberal (in the political sense) inversion of a Thomas Hobbes quote.

The new motto is the correct Latin translation. But it's not actually new, it was changed to this months ago but we never changed the seal to reflect this.