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« Reply #950 on: April 10, 2022, 12:36:30 PM »
Quote from: KaiserDave on April 10, 2022, 12:27:26 PM
Is the poll leaked to La Libre legitimate?

The Belgians don't get much right. But they do get chocolate and polling right. So take that for what it's worth.
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« Reply #951 on: April 10, 2022, 12:54:10 PM »

At least the nightmare scenario - Le Pen vs. Mélenchon - is looking much unlikelier now. Hopefully the 2017 rematch can also see a not-insignificant repeat of the anti-fascist consolidation behind Macron in the 2nd round. Still, though, it's really rather concerning for the future of French politics that, with the exception of Macron, its center has just entirely collapsed. Should he win a 2nd term, he should take some time to further consider his domestic policy's impacts upon French politics.
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« Reply #952 on: April 10, 2022, 01:00:54 PM »
 28 Macron
 24 Le Pen
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« Reply #953 on: April 10, 2022, 01:01:55 PM »
I mean, we told you not to believe the leaks lol
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« Reply #954 on: April 10, 2022, 01:02:01 PM »
Hidalgo at only 2.1%. Good lord.
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« Reply #955 on: April 10, 2022, 01:02:11 PM »
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« Reply #956 on: April 10, 2022, 01:02:20 PM »
Thank god.
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« Reply #957 on: April 10, 2022, 01:02:57 PM »
Only ahead far-left duo (Poutou and Artaud). Bad day at Solferino!
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« Reply #958 on: April 10, 2022, 01:03:18 PM »
Incredibly depressing political scene.
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« Reply #959 on: April 10, 2022, 01:03:45 PM »
LMAO at Pecresse and Hidalgo
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« Reply #960 on: April 10, 2022, 01:04:06 PM »
Macron actually did a bit better than I expected
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« Reply #961 on: April 10, 2022, 01:04:13 PM »
Zemmour and Pecresse are so pathetic, lol.
Look at how badly they did!
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« Reply #962 on: April 10, 2022, 01:04:25 PM »
Quote from: RodPresident on April 10, 2022, 01:02:57 PM
Only ahead far-left duo (Poutou and Artaud). Bad day at Solferino!

Not anymore. The party sold their previous headquarters in late 2017.
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« Reply #963 on: April 10, 2022, 01:04:41 PM »
And 20 for Mélenchon which is quite the surge. Almost double from where he was 2 months ago.
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« Reply #964 on: April 10, 2022, 01:04:46 PM »
https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1vOGwyOdZmLxB
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« Reply #965 on: April 10, 2022, 01:04:52 PM »
An objectively awful result for France and the French left, very depressing. But it's great, great to see Le Pen bomb compared to the last minute expectations.
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« Reply #966 on: April 10, 2022, 01:05:05 PM »
Pecresse is amazingly bad.
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« Reply #967 on: April 10, 2022, 01:05:46 PM »
any other candidate part for Melenchon openly endorse the sixth republic?
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« Reply #968 on: April 10, 2022, 01:06:04 PM »
Quote from: RodPresident on April 10, 2022, 01:02:57 PM
Only ahead far-left duo (Poutou and Artaud). Bad day at Solferino!
It seems that voters gravitated towards the top 3.
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« Reply #969 on: April 10, 2022, 01:06:06 PM »
Well, interesting results. Le Pen is basically where the polls expected her. Both Macron and Mélenchon overperformed, while Pécresse and Zemmour underperformed. To the extent that there was any last-minute shift, it seems like it might have been among center-right Pécresse voters coming over to Macron to stop Le Pen.
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« Reply #970 on: April 10, 2022, 01:06:16 PM »
Quote from: Agafin on April 10, 2022, 01:04:41 PM
And 20 for Mélenchon which is quite the surge. Almost double from where he was 2 months ago.

A candidate with his platform but without the baggage and toxic personality would have at least pipped Le Pen for second, which is worth reflecting on.
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« Reply #971 on: April 10, 2022, 01:06:50 PM »
If there was a left candidate that wasn’t Melenchon, they’d have beaten Le Pen and be in the run off. Which they’d likely lose, but still. Though of course this is only due to Zemmour, rather than the strength of the left
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« Reply #972 on: April 10, 2022, 01:07:05 PM »
What happened? Well, basically, as the second choice/hesitators numbers I shared yesterday, Pécresse hesitators went to Macron in the end and sank her further while there was strategic voters on the left breaking for Mélenchon (as expected) which shaved some points off from Jadot and Roussel.

Le Pen at 23% is still a good number for her - better than in 2017 - and the combined far-right is stronger than it's ever been.
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« Reply #973 on: April 10, 2022, 01:07:32 PM »
The instant reactions to this are almost unspeakably stupid. The first round is about who gets in the top two, not who tops the poll (as nice as it may make the top-placed candidate feel). The other point is that Le Pen topping the poll in the first round might not necessarily be good for her - it would give off a stronger impression of her being a president-in-waiting and might make a scare campaign by anti-Le Pen forces easier.
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« Reply #974 on: April 10, 2022, 01:07:46 PM »
Overall I really do respect Macron for facing reality and campaigning on increasing the pension age before an election.
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