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Dale Bumpers
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« on: October 15, 2021, 06:18:58 PM »

Anyone else feel like it's almost impossible to win as Bush-Cheney in 2000 on normal?
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2021, 06:45:00 PM »
« Edited: October 25, 2021, 06:52:57 PM by Dale Bumpers »

Anyone else feel like it's almost impossible to win as Bush-Cheney in 2000 on normal?

Maybe this is a new version you're talking about, but 2000 exists on the regular, original Campaign Trail and I have prevailed as Bush there (Normal difficulty) on multiple occassions. I make it a challenge to win WI, OR and NH and have carried all three on one occassion (I've carried WI many times but OR's harder).

That's true, I feel like I have won as Bush-Cheney in 2000 on normal in the regular mode. I'm going to try now.

EDIT: Won 294-244, same map at OTL plus NM, WI, and IA, won popular vote by 38,000 votes 48.5%-48.5%. I guess you're right.
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2021, 12:39:26 PM »

Old Campaign Trail appears to be dead...

Co-creator of Obama 2008 mod said that McCain should be out in a week or two.

Finally, I've been looking forward to playing as McCain-Lieberman.
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2021, 07:00:10 PM »
« Edited: November 21, 2021, 09:34:13 AM by LAB-LIB »

Surprised myself by winning electoral college and popular vote with Reagan and Rockefeller.



Fmr. Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice President Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY): 290 electoral votes / 39,998,779 votes (49.2%)

Fmr. Governor Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Senator Walter Mondale (D-MN): 248 electoral votes / 39,894,208 votes (49.1%)
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2021, 08:38:43 PM »

Played Humphrey on normal:

1968 Presidential Election



Vice President Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Senator Edmund Muskie (D-ME): 459 electoral votes/35,583,160 votes (48.7%)
Fmr. Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Governor Spiro Agnew (R-MD): 40 electoral votes/28,462,381 votes (39.0%)
Fmr. Governor George Wallace (I-AL)/Ret. General Curtis LeMay (I-OH): 39 electoral votes/9,002,103 votes (12.3%)

I had so much fun making this map, so wish it was the map IRL. It's about as perfect as 1968 can realistically get, having Humphrey win by the widest margin possible but without giving Wallace the distinction of coming in second.
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2021, 08:12:12 PM »


As Howard Dean once said, "YEAH!"
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2021, 10:08:06 PM »


No need, it's already on the Mod Loader!
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2021, 10:16:13 PM »

I'm glad that since the discord exists, this can happen faster even if it is toxic.

Yeah I feel like it used to take days or weeks, and now it's just a matter of hours. Well, the time between completion and the mod loader addition anyway, completion of the mod took forever. But it was well worth the wait!
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2021, 10:10:32 PM »

"Слишком верно, товарищ Маккейн! Слава революции! Слава Американской Советской Республике!"



Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE): 422 electoral votes/76,667,951 votes (57.6%)
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Tim Pawlenty (R-MN): 116 electoral votes/53,959,290 votes (40.6%)
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2021, 10:46:39 PM »


It's already in the mod loader, ready to go.
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2021, 10:52:40 PM »

I know, I was just making a remark about how I wasn't the only one who browses this site on a school computer. Heck, I'm typing this on my school computer.

I know what you mean. My school just assigned all of us our own Chromebooks that are all really slow, have terrible battery, and block sites like Reddit and Twitter. We're supposed to use them every day but I haven't brought mine in in two months - I use this computer instead.
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2021, 01:10:00 PM »
« Edited: November 30, 2021, 06:08:23 PM by LAB-LIB »




Governor Thomas E. Dewey (R-NY)/Senator Arthur Vandenberg (R-MI): 267 electoral votes/23,264,331 votes (48.5%)
President Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/Senator Harry S. Truman (D-MO): 264 electoral votes/24,461,380 votes (50.9%)

Played Dewey on normal, picked Vandenberg, picked a variety of answers, moderate conservative on economics, tough on Communism, pro-unconditional surrender but kind of isolationist on some questions. New Hampshire was the tipping point state, won it by 211 votes.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2021, 04:53:38 PM »
« Edited: November 30, 2021, 05:46:41 PM by LAB-LIB »

Oh, and there's a secret ending that will now play at the end of any mode you choose if you decide to use the spacebar cheat at any point that basically tells you off for using the cheat all the while this music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1-RyLUQUrA is playing.

Lots of additions these past few days! RFK 1968 mod is out!
https://www.reddit.com/r/thecampaigntrail/comments/r5520x/the_mod_youve_all_been_waiting_for_rfk_1968/
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2021, 06:05:48 PM »

Won as Curtis/Borah in 1932 on normal, ran as a moderate progressive, protectionist but not too much, isolationist, against prohibition.



Vice President Charles Curtis (R-KS)/Senator William Borah (R-ID): 309 electoral votes/19,931,748 votes (49.9%)
Fmr. Secretary of War Newton Baker (D-OH)/Governor Albert Ritchie (D-MD): 222 electoral votes/18,994,409 votes (47.5%)
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2021, 10:47:42 PM »
« Edited: December 02, 2021, 11:21:10 PM by LAB-LIB »



Fmr. Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR) 416 EV 53.4%
President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice President George H.W. Bush (R-TX) 122 EV 46.2%

NPV: Mondale + 7.2
States within 1%: Indiana, South Carolina
States within 5%: South Carolina, Indiana  Carolina, Virginia, Montana, South Dakota, Mississippi, North Carolina, Alabama, Ohio, Texas, Connecticut, and New Jersey (in order of closeness)
State closest to the NPV: New Mexico
Tipping Point State: Georgia

Which difficulty? I've never won a Mondale on normal and I'm assuming this is not that.
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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2021, 08:17:46 PM »



Well I didn't expect to do this well. Came within 0.2% of winning West Virginia.
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2021, 09:12:56 PM »

Well I got quite the 1948 map:



The more I look at it, the more I realize how unique it is.
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2021, 11:59:06 AM »



I think Schweiker is the best pick, though I've won the popular vote and electoral college by using Rockefeller to get New York.
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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2021, 12:15:13 PM »

Ok, so how exactly do you do the big shot cheat?
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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2022, 11:33:11 AM »

Ok, so how exactly do you do the big shot cheat?

On the mod loader, tyoe in bigshot, hit enter and type in bigshot and press enter again.
Thanks
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2022, 08:23:53 PM »
« Edited: January 02, 2022, 09:05:10 PM by LAB-LIB »



I am absolutely staggered, stunned, amazed at the size of the landslide.

I should point out that this was on normal.
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2022, 11:42:57 PM »

Won 2000 on Normal as Bush/Ridge:


Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) / Governor Tom Ridge (R-PA) - 306 EVs, 47.9%
Vice President Al Gore (D-TN) / Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT) - 232 EVs, 48.7%
The 06/32 curse has time traveled to haunt the past

This got me thinking a little, and this is two elections, but I just realized that in the 2010 UK general election, the Tories got 306 seats not including Bercow, while in 2015, Labour got 232 seats. The curse not only transcends time, but international borders as well.
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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2022, 03:46:06 PM »



Surprised myself on normal as Rockefeller/Scranton. Could Rockefeller have done this well in OTL? Or anywhere near this well, even with Bobby Baker and Billy Sol Estes? Maybe if all of the corruption came out.


---- Nelson Rockefeller   34,261,041   48.6%
---- Lyndon B. Johnson   32,117,102   45.5%
---- Strom Thurmond     4,144,441       5.9%
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2022, 12:08:37 PM »



President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Senator Howard Baker (R-TN): 352 electoral votes / 40,071,722 votes (49.4%)

Fmr. Governor Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Senator Walter Mondale (D-MN): 186 electoral votes / 39,323,503 votes (48.5%)

Up until recently, I thought it was just about impossible to do better than a narrow victory with Ford. I probably shouldn't have let the first time I played with Baker as my VP color my impressions so easily, as he is clearly the best pick.
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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2022, 12:04:44 PM »
« Edited: January 10, 2022, 09:45:22 PM by LAB-LIB »

Played Ford on normal, was quite surprised to see this.



President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Senator Howard Baker (R-TN): 404 electoral votes / 40,924,065 votes (50.3%)

Fmr. Governor Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Senator Walter Mondale (D-MN): 134 electoral votes / 38,852,719 votes (47.7%)
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