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« on: April 16, 2021, 10:01:24 PM »

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/france-outlaws-sex-children-aged-under-15-n1264274
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he French Parliament on Thursday adopted legislation that characterizes sex with a child under the age of 15 as rape and punishable by up to 20 years in jail, bringing its penal code closer in line with many other Western nations.

While the age of consent was previously 15, prosecutors in France used to be required to prove sex was non-consensual to obtain a rape conviction.

"This is an historic law for our children and our society," Justice Minister Eric Dupond-Moretti told the National Assembly.

"No adult aggressor will be able to claim the consent of a minor younger than 15-years-old."

The vote in favor of the bill was unanimous at its final reading, the Assembly said on Twitter.

There had been concerns from some lawmakers that an age of consent below which sex automatically constituted rape might criminalize a consensual sexual relationship between a minor and a person only a few years older.
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he #MeToo movement that swept around the world after numerous women in 2017 accused U.S. movie producer Harvey Weinstein of sexual assault proved a turning point in France. So too did the fall from grace in 2020 of a French writer who had written openly about his pedophilia.

France had already toughened its sex crimes laws in 2018 when it outlawed sexual harassment on the streets, leaving cat-callers and aggressively lecherous individuals facing potential on-the-spot fines.
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2021, 10:19:40 PM »

What will Roman Polanski do now?
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2021, 10:39:40 PM »

Well, that still allows 15 year olds to have an affair with their theater teacher.
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2021, 10:57:23 PM »

Well, that still allows 15 year olds to have an affair with their theater teacher.
You do a lot of my posting for me.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2021, 12:40:28 AM »

A lot of French philosophers are probably grumbling that they have to put in more effort to hush up their groomed toys now.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2021, 09:37:38 AM »

TIL that this *wasn't* previously outlawed in France as in most other developed countries.
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2021, 02:24:57 AM »

TIL that this *wasn't* previously outlawed in France as in most other developed countries.

These are those famed French values that apparently need protecting from the immigrant hordes.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2021, 08:24:35 AM »

Racist against both French and Islamic culture tbh.
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2021, 08:27:28 AM »

A lot of French philosophers are probably grumbling that they have to put in more effort to hush up their groomed toys now.

You read some about Jean-Paul Sartre, and you wonder what the practical difference was between him and Epstein.
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2021, 08:49:46 AM »

Its a strange country, no getting away from that.
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2021, 11:38:08 PM »

To be clear, sexual relationships between adults and children aged under 15 were not legal before.
For a consensual relationship it was punished by up to 7 years of imprisonment.


What this new law says is that a child aged under 15 can't consent to such relationship so it will be a rape, and up to 20 years of imprisonment.
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2021, 02:52:15 AM »

A lot of French philosophers are probably grumbling that they have to put in more effort to hush up their groomed toys now.

You read some about Jean-Paul Sartre, and you wonder what the practical difference was between him and Epstein.

Michel Foucault is rolling in his cell!
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2021, 09:15:34 AM »

To be clear, sexual relationships between adults and children aged under 15 were not legal before.
For a consensual relationship it was punished by up to 7 years of imprisonment.


What this new law says is that a child aged under 15 can't consent to such relationship so it will be a rape, and up to 20 years of imprisonment.

Yes, most people realised that much I think.

The difference is that most countries have treated it as statutory rape for some time now.
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2021, 12:22:35 AM »

DISCIPLINE AND PUNISH: THE BIRTH OF HORNY JAIL

Great to see.
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2021, 01:12:21 AM »
« Edited: April 22, 2021, 01:58:17 AM by Lord Halifax »

To be clear, sexual relationships between adults and children aged under 15 were not legal before.
For a consensual relationship it was punished by up to 7 years of imprisonment.


What this new law says is that a child aged under 15 can't consent to such relationship so it will be a rape, and up to 20 years of imprisonment.


Yes, most people realised that much I think.

The difference is that most countries have treated it as statutory rape for some time now.

Is that really true? Statutory rape is a common law concept, civil law countries typically differentiate between "sex with a minor" and rape. Islamic countries also traditionally don't use the concept of statutory rape, the ones that do seem to be former British colonies (e.g. Malaysia).
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