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« Reply #150 on: June 01, 2023, 02:13:18 PM »



Since Raskin is in leadership, I guess he told Hoyer that he's not going to run. I doubt Hoyer would endorse someone not even in the House over someone from leadership to which he himself belonged as well. Alsobrooks is a strong favorite now, and rightfully so.
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« Reply #151 on: June 01, 2023, 02:28:40 PM »

I’m moving my prediction from 55-45 to 60-40 Alsobrooks, if not 65-35
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« Reply #152 on: June 05, 2023, 01:20:33 PM »

I’m moving my prediction from 55-45 to 60-40 Alsobrooks, if not 65-35

I don't think it would even be that close. She's getting noteworthy endorsements from party players in other counties. This thing will be a blowout.
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« Reply #153 on: June 05, 2023, 01:53:04 PM »

I’m moving my prediction from 55-45 to 60-40 Alsobrooks, if not 65-35

I don't think it would even be that close. She's getting noteworthy endorsements from party players in other counties. This thing will be a blowout.

The only thing stopping me from fully going for that is Trone is a congressman with a lot of personal wealth. I could see him performing well  among wealth white suburbanites
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« Reply #154 on: June 05, 2023, 02:31:16 PM »

I’m moving my prediction from 55-45 to 60-40 Alsobrooks, if not 65-35

I don't think it would even be that close. She's getting noteworthy endorsements from party players in other counties. This thing will be a blowout.

The only thing stopping me from fully going for that is Trone is a congressman with a lot of personal wealth. I could see him performing well  among wealth white suburbanites

Wealthy white liberals are the exact kind of people to pay themselves on the back for voting for a black woman in a federal primary. If it was a governors race or local race, I think it’d be a different story.
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« Reply #155 on: July 07, 2023, 06:47:05 PM »

Raskin out

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« Reply #156 on: July 07, 2023, 07:05:32 PM »

That basically seals it. Between his health issues, the recent loss of his son, and the fact that he would have to deal with a bruising primary, I'm not surprised at all.

And honestly, given his Ukraine letter, I'm not too sorry. Alsobrooks will be a fine Senator.
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« Reply #157 on: July 07, 2023, 07:42:00 PM »

Raskin out



Huh, looks like I was wrong about him retiring from the House.

At this point all House retirements might as well be related to running for Senate
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« Reply #158 on: July 07, 2023, 07:49:19 PM »

That basically seals it. Between his health issues, the recent loss of his son, and the fact that he would have to deal with a bruising primary, I'm not surprised at all.

And honestly, given his Ukraine letter, I'm not too sorry. Alsobrooks will be a fine Senator.

David Trone?
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« Reply #159 on: July 07, 2023, 08:03:56 PM »

That basically seals it. Between his health issues, the recent loss of his son, and the fact that he would have to deal with a bruising primary, I'm not surprised at all.

And honestly, given his Ukraine letter, I'm not too sorry. Alsobrooks will be a fine Senator.

David Trone?

He has little chance.
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« Reply #160 on: July 07, 2023, 08:32:31 PM »

That basically seals it. Between his health issues, the recent loss of his son, and the fact that he would have to deal with a bruising primary, I'm not surprised at all.

And honestly, given his Ukraine letter, I'm not too sorry. Alsobrooks will be a fine Senator.

David Trone?

He has little chance.

As best I can see, he's seen as a fine representative but just doesn't have any passionate supporters and Alsobrooks is racking up a TON of endorsements fast.
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« Reply #161 on: July 08, 2023, 10:31:27 AM »

That basically seals it. Between his health issues, the recent loss of his son, and the fact that he would have to deal with a bruising primary, I'm not surprised at all.

And honestly, given his Ukraine letter, I'm not too sorry. Alsobrooks will be a fine Senator.

David Trone?

He has little chance.

As best I can see, he's seen as a fine representative but just doesn't have any passionate supporters and Alsobrooks is racking up a TON of endorsements fast.

Trone also has no campaign staff - none of the people from his House campaigns are with him for this run and they are hiring leadership positions (like Comms Director and Press Secretary) on public job boards - something very rare for a serious statewide race.
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« Reply #162 on: July 08, 2023, 01:41:18 PM »

That basically seals it. Between his health issues, the recent loss of his son, and the fact that he would have to deal with a bruising primary, I'm not surprised at all.

And honestly, given his Ukraine letter, I'm not too sorry. Alsobrooks will be a fine Senator.

David Trone?

He has little chance.

As best I can see, he's seen as a fine representative but just doesn't have any passionate supporters and Alsobrooks is racking up a TON of endorsements fast.

Trone also has no campaign staff - none of the people from his House campaigns are with him for this run and they are hiring leadership positions (like Comms Director and Press Secretary) on public job boards - something very rare for a serious statewide race.

How do they normally hire for campaigns (I may want a job like that one day so genuinely curious)
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« Reply #163 on: July 08, 2023, 03:48:16 PM »

That basically seals it. Between his health issues, the recent loss of his son, and the fact that he would have to deal with a bruising primary, I'm not surprised at all.

And honestly, given his Ukraine letter, I'm not too sorry. Alsobrooks will be a fine Senator.

David Trone?

He has little chance.

As best I can see, he's seen as a fine representative but just doesn't have any passionate supporters and Alsobrooks is racking up a TON of endorsements fast.

Trone also has no campaign staff - none of the people from his House campaigns are with him for this run and they are hiring leadership positions (like Comms Director and Press Secretary) on public job boards - something very rare for a serious statewide race.

How do they normally hire for campaigns (I may want a job like that one day so genuinely curious)

Connections. People they know. Sometimes a campaign manager will approach a potential candidate themself.
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« Reply #164 on: July 09, 2023, 08:57:08 AM »

That basically seals it. Between his health issues, the recent loss of his son, and the fact that he would have to deal with a bruising primary, I'm not surprised at all.

And honestly, given his Ukraine letter, I'm not too sorry. Alsobrooks will be a fine Senator.

David Trone?

He has little chance.

As best I can see, he's seen as a fine representative but just doesn't have any passionate supporters and Alsobrooks is racking up a TON of endorsements fast.

Trone also has no campaign staff - none of the people from his House campaigns are with him for this run and they are hiring leadership positions (like Comms Director and Press Secretary) on public job boards - something very rare for a serious statewide race.

How do they normally hire for campaigns (I may want a job like that one day so genuinely curious)

Poster above me is generally right. The good folks at the DCCC/DSCC/DGA/etc often work with candidates they recruit to get them good, well-established, and proven people in key campaign roles. Lots of campaigns (often major mayorals, who don't have committees like the aforementioned to refer to) also hire "general consultants" or "chief strategists" (usually well-established consultants like admakers, pollsters, direct mail people, etc) to advise early campaign decision-making and they will bring in and hire the key folks on campaign payroll and subsequently advise the campaign in a broader way than they might in their usual role.

Lots of campaigns do hire lower-level positions (research associates, digital strategists, field organizers, etc) on public job boards and that's a great place to get started. If you are talented, knowledgeable, and committed - and I assume you are Smiley - people will notice fast and they'll remember.
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« Reply #165 on: July 09, 2023, 09:49:48 AM »

So unless things drastically change, Alsobrooks should have this?
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« Reply #166 on: July 09, 2023, 09:51:37 AM »

So unless things drastically change, Alsobrooks should have this?

I’d imagine so yea
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« Reply #167 on: August 15, 2023, 08:40:44 AM »

It's beyond over for Trone lol

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« Reply #168 on: August 15, 2023, 02:12:54 PM »

It's beyond over for Trone lol



With LBR de facto safe in Delaware, the number of black women in the senate will increase from zero to at least two in the next congress.
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« Reply #169 on: August 15, 2023, 03:23:12 PM »

It's beyond over for Trone lol



Honestly Trone’s primary chances may be even worse than Mooney’s at this point.
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« Reply #170 on: August 21, 2023, 09:32:11 AM »

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« Reply #171 on: August 21, 2023, 09:39:40 AM »



Won't matter that much, several of these reps are unknown in MD and hardly anyone is going to change their vote because of their recommendation. (Most) endorsements are generally overrated.
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« Reply #172 on: August 21, 2023, 10:38:31 AM »



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« Reply #173 on: August 21, 2023, 11:46:18 AM »



Alsobrooks is still favored, but Trone has enough levels of institutional support that I don’t think his primary odds are quite as dire as Mooney’s are.
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« Reply #174 on: August 21, 2023, 12:51:47 PM »



Alsobrooks is still favored, but Trone has enough levels of institutional support that I don’t think his primary odds are quite as dire as Mooney’s are.

I'd say she's overwhelmingly favored. Isn't the majority of Democratic primary voters in Maryland actually black? I'd guess that also favors her, although it doesn't mean black voters just back her because she's African American. However, the state already has three black statewide elected officials (governor, lt. governor and attorney general). It's also the only entire black ticket that won the two highest offices of a state.
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