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« on: March 31, 2021, 04:40:28 AM »
« edited: April 11, 2021, 02:06:53 AM by ¿ »

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Sticking it to the Man Act

A BILL


Be it enacted by the House of Representatives and the Senate of the Republic of Atlasia in Congress assembled,

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SECTION I
No school which receives federal funding from the government of Atlasia may suspend, expel, or otherwise punish a student for any of the following reasons:

1) wearing their hair in a certain style or having dyed or colored hair
2) expressing opinions or beliefs during time allocated for students to speak or ask questions which do not demean or harass other students, or wearing articles of clothing displaying a social or political message.
3) praying or otherwise practicing their religion at school, as long as the prayers are done without significantly disturbing the class or if they are done during a time of recess
4) peacefully walking out of class as part of a protest or political movement
5) actions that occurred outside of school provided they did not bully or harass another student, or result in the student's arrest

SECTION II

1) No school in the Republic of Atlasia may prevent a student from graduating or passing a class due to debts incurred, including but not limited to lunch debt and unreturned library books, provided they satisfy all other requirements.
2) No school which receives federal funding from the government of Atlasia may prevent a student from graduating or passing a class due to absences incurred, provided they receive a passing grade and satisfy all other requirements.

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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2021, 04:42:48 AM »

I introduced a version of this bill to the Senate last year. It passed but was vetoed/redrafted by Pericles and apparently Congress never bothered to vote either on a veto override or on the redraft. So here we go. I've taken out the parts which caused the most controversy. I'll just post my original advocacy:

Basically this sets some guidelines protecting the rights of students to express their opinions and beliefs in school. It also limits the ability of a school to punish students for expressing these beliefs. Also - it gets rid of not being able to graduate because of debt owed to the school which can accumulate a lot over the years. The point of public school in this country is to be free and public, not exclusionary. And passing these measures will help it fill that vision.
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2021, 07:11:35 AM »

Allowing prayer in schools is bad and schools should have their books returned, I'm actually fine with the attendance provision, but these two need to go.
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2021, 08:29:13 AM »

Allowing prayer in schools is bad and schools should have their books returned, I'm actually fine with the attendance provision, but these two need to go.
The text says that the prayers have to be not disturbing the class. If they're not disturbing anyone, what's the issue?
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2021, 09:47:09 AM »

Allowing prayer in schools is bad and schools should have their books returned, I'm actually fine with the attendance provision, but these two need to go.
The text says that the prayers have to be not disturbing the class. If they're not disturbing anyone, what's the issue?

I'd just rather keep religion out of schools entirely
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2021, 09:54:17 AM »

Allowing prayer in schools is bad and schools should have their books returned, I'm actually fine with the attendance provision, but these two need to go.
The text says that the prayers have to be not disturbing the class. If they're not disturbing anyone, what's the issue?

I'd just rather keep religion out of schools entirely
But freedom of religion is guaranteed in the constitution. Our personal feelings on school prayer don’t really have much to do with it
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2021, 10:19:14 AM »

Allowing prayer in schools is bad and schools should have their books returned, I'm actually fine with the attendance provision, but these two need to go.
The text says that the prayers have to be not disturbing the class. If they're not disturbing anyone, what's the issue?

To be fair don't think praying in class could ever end up as "not disturbing the class". It's still speaking (even if it's in a very quiet voice) and in some cases standing up or going on your knees or other things that would be very distracting to the teacher and other students.

I'd just cut it to the "during a time of recess" part personally.
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2021, 02:59:57 PM »

Allowing prayer in schools is bad and schools should have their books returned, I'm actually fine with the attendance provision, but these two need to go.
The text says that the prayers have to be not disturbing the class. If they're not disturbing anyone, what's the issue?

To be fair don't think praying in class could ever end up as "not disturbing the class". It's still speaking (even if it's in a very quiet voice) and in some cases standing up or going on your knees or other things that would be very distracting to the teacher and other students.

I'd just cut it to the "during a time of recess" part personally.
Prayer can be silent and in your head.
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2021, 01:45:16 PM »

Anything further to add here?
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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2021, 12:34:17 AM »

I'll motion for a final vote.
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2021, 01:34:52 AM »

A final vote has started. 72 hours.
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2021, 01:35:42 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2021, 01:35:53 AM »

So nothing was done about the provision of prayer in schools? Lincoln had this exact same debate almost two years ago and we agreed that it was a bad idea.
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2021, 01:36:43 AM »

So nothing was done about the provision of prayer in schools? Lincoln had this exact same debate almost two years ago and we agreed that it was a bad idea.
Literally nothing in this bill endorses state-sanctioned school prayer (which I don't support). All it does is protect the right of students to practice their religion, if they wish to, on school grounds without fear of punishment.
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2021, 01:37:05 AM »

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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2021, 01:34:50 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2021, 08:50:38 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2021, 01:10:33 AM »

Aye.
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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2021, 03:39:55 AM »

This has the votes to pass so it will close in 24 hours after 11:10 pm pacific time
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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2021, 03:58:15 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2021, 07:54:19 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2021, 08:15:49 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2021, 02:06:33 AM »

This passes.

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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2021, 02:07:48 AM »
« Edited: April 12, 2021, 01:10:22 PM by ¿ »

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Sticking it to the Man Act

A BILL


Be it enacted by the House of Representatives and the Senate of the Republic of Atlasia in Congress assembled,

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SECTION I
No school which receives federal funding from the government of Atlasia may suspend, expel, or otherwise punish a student for any of the following reasons:

1) wearing their hair in a certain style or having dyed or colored hair
2) expressing opinions or beliefs during time allocated for students to speak or ask questions which do not demean or harass other students, or wearing articles of clothing displaying a social or political message.
3) praying or otherwise practicing their religion at school, as long as the prayers are done without significantly disturbing the class or if they are done during a time of recess
4) peacefully walking out of class as part of a protest or political movement
5) actions that occurred outside of school provided they did not bully or harass another student, or result in the student's arrest

SECTION II

1) No school in the Republic of Atlasia may prevent a student from graduating or passing a class due to debts incurred, including but not limited to lunch debt and unreturned library books, provided they satisfy all other requirements.
2) No school which receives federal funding from the government of Atlasia may prevent a student from graduating or passing a class due to absences incurred, provided they receive a passing grade and satisfy all other requirements.

Passed 8-0-0-1 in the Atlasian House assembled


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