Biden infrastructure/tax increase megathread

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

Well, I guess that's that:

https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1408478816079646722

What a fool. Either you want something done and actually legislate or not and you're just being an obstructionist/my way or the highway. Republicans just don't negotiate in good faith.

The GOP must have lost their minds if they think threatening Joe Manchin is a good strategy

them walking away from this deal would be smack in the face to Joe Manchin and it would also make a lot of Dems on the left very happy

it would all but guarantee that Dems go it alone on infrastructure and at that point not even Joe Manchin would be willing to stop it since the GOP would be betraying him by walking away from a bipartisan deal that he help negotiate......

Pelosi and Biden smacked Manchin in the face by announcing they weren't going to do the deal he worked on without the reconciliation bill first.

I'm pretty sure that Manchin couldn't care less. The point is that he has a trophy to show that he is bipartisan.

[Blue3]

Well, I guess that's that:

https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1408478816079646722

What a fool. Either you want something done and actually legislate or not and you're just being an obstructionist/my way or the highway. Republicans just don't negotiate in good faith.

The GOP must have lost their minds if they think threatening Joe Manchin is a good strategy

them walking away from this deal would be smack in the face to Joe Manchin and it would also make a lot of Dems on the left very happy

it would all but guarantee that Dems go it alone on infrastructure and at that point not even Joe Manchin would be willing to stop it since the GOP would be betraying him by walking away from a bipartisan deal that he help negotiate......

Pelosi and Biden smacked Manchin in the face by announcing they weren't going to do the deal he worked on without the reconciliation bill first.

Manchin, Biden, and others have said that was transparent all along.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Well, I guess that's that:

https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1408478816079646722

What a fool. Either you want something done and actually legislate or not and you're just being an obstructionist/my way or the highway. Republicans just don't negotiate in good faith.

The GOP must have lost their minds if they think threatening Joe Manchin is a good strategy

them walking away from this deal would be smack in the face to Joe Manchin and it would also make a lot of Dems on the left very happy

it would all but guarantee that Dems go it alone on infrastructure and at that point not even Joe Manchin would be willing to stop it since the GOP would be betraying him by walking away from a bipartisan deal that he help negotiate......

Pelosi and Biden smacked Manchin in the face by announcing they weren't going to do the deal he worked on without the reconciliation bill first.

I'm pretty sure that Manchin couldn't care less. The point is that he has a trophy to show that he is bipartisan.

Like WV voters will care about that in 3 years.

[roxas11]

Well, I guess that's that:

https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1408478816079646722

What a fool. Either you want something done and actually legislate or not and you're just being an obstructionist/my way or the highway. Republicans just don't negotiate in good faith.

The GOP must have lost their minds if they think threatening Joe Manchin is a good strategy

them walking away from this deal would be smack in the face to Joe Manchin and it would also make a lot of Dems on the left very happy

it would all but guarantee that Dems go it alone on infrastructure and at that point not even Joe Manchin would be willing to stop it since the GOP would be betraying him by walking away from a bipartisan deal that he help negotiate......

Pelosi and Biden smacked Manchin in the face by announcing they weren't going to do the deal he worked on without the reconciliation bill first.

you are fooling yourself if you honestly believed that Joe Biden did not already talk to Joe Manchin about that before he spoke about it to the public. manchin knows full well what the Dems plans are and it is silly to claim that he was somehow  smacked in the face because Biden talked about a Reconciliation bill that he already knew was coming lol

the harsh reality for the GOP is if they walk away from this deal, Biden will just pass his original giant infrastructure bill and joe Manchin will no longer stand in his way since has already gotten what he wanted out of this deal....

[politicallefty]

Oregon Rep. Kurt Schrader, a member of the fiscally conscious Blue Dog Coalition, said in an interview that he’s planning to vote against a budget resolution that would include reconciliation instructions for trillions of dollars in additional spending. Another moderate House Democrat, who requested anonymity to speak freely about a position that would upset party leaders, said the same.

With those two expected “no” votes, Speaker Nancy Pelosi doesn’t have much more room to maneuver on that first step toward passing a big spending bill, let alone the reconciliation legislation itself that would contain all the details.

https://www.rollcall.com/2021/06/25/some-moderate-democrats-oppose-biden-spending-package-as-progressives-feared/

Schrader is a massive cuckold. I hope the other one isn't Jared Golden.

Probably. Schrader needs to be primaried. There is no excuse for people like him. That said, Speaker Pelosi is the best legislator we've had in decades, if not ever. She will get it done. The House will not be the issue.

[Person Man]

Just to provide some context to why Republicans are so angry with President Biden over explicitly calling for a two-track infrastructure deal, and are backing away from negotiations:

Republicans plot an infrastructure 2-step: Spend more, then kill Biden’s agenda

Senate Republicans are mulling support for a massive amount of new spending on infrastructure — in part because they think it’ll help kill President Joe Biden’s liberal agenda.

Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has yet to tip his hand on whether he supports the bipartisan negotiations on Biden's plan for roads and bridges that are being led by Sens. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) and Rob Portman (R-Ohio). But a growing number of Senate Republicans are betting that if a deal is reached on that sort of physical infrastructure, Democrats won’t have the votes needed to pass the rest of Biden’s “soft infrastructure” priorities, such as child care and clean energy.

This is from mid-June.  They only supported the compromise on the presumption that it would kill the rest of Biden's agenda.  Talk about being two-faced.....  

So basically, they wanted to give Biden something so that the rest of his agenda wouldn't have the capital to move forward on.

[compucomp]

It seems the White House is seeing what I predicted in this thread, that the deal may completely collapse and nothing will pass, and is walking back its red line of vetoing the deal without a reconciliation bill.

Joe Biden said the quiet part out loud and paid a price for it.

Reveling in his bipartisan win on infrastructure Thursday, the president declared that he would not sign the deal he’d just endorsed unless a separate bill including his other domestic priorities arrived on his desk, too. Whether deliberate or not, the comment set off a cascade of events in and out of the Oval Office that had aides putting out fires the next day and raised questions about the future of their prized $1 trillion bipartisan deal.

With Republicans threatening to abandon the deal, Steve Ricchetti, one of Biden’s lead negotiators, who a day earlier had been credited by the president for his efforts shepherding the deal, scrambled to contain the fallout on Capitol Hill. Both he and Louisa Terrell, the White House top congressional liaison, told the senators involved in negotiations that Biden was enthusiastic about the deal and would soon hit the road to tout its benefits as well as the merits of bipartisanship.

According to two sources familiar with his efforts, Ricchetti told Republicans that the White House was going to clarify the comments.

A White House official disputed the notion that Ricchetti suggested Biden may have misspoke — an impression that those two sources said was left. The official said that the president’s team anticipated dustups during the early phases of the process and noted that White House press secretary Jen Psaki several times during Friday’s briefing took a softer tone than Biden did on Thursday.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/25/biden-infrastructure-bill-496412

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

It seems the White House is seeing what I predicted in this thread, that the deal may completely collapse and nothing will pass, and is walking back its red line of vetoing the deal without a reconciliation bill.

Joe Biden said the quiet part out loud and paid a price for it.

Reveling in his bipartisan win on infrastructure Thursday, the president declared that he would not sign the deal he’d just endorsed unless a separate bill including his other domestic priorities arrived on his desk, too. Whether deliberate or not, the comment set off a cascade of events in and out of the Oval Office that had aides putting out fires the next day and raised questions about the future of their prized $1 trillion bipartisan deal.

With Republicans threatening to abandon the deal, Steve Ricchetti, one of Biden’s lead negotiators, who a day earlier had been credited by the president for his efforts shepherding the deal, scrambled to contain the fallout on Capitol Hill. Both he and Louisa Terrell, the White House top congressional liaison, told the senators involved in negotiations that Biden was enthusiastic about the deal and would soon hit the road to tout its benefits as well as the merits of bipartisanship.

According to two sources familiar with his efforts, Ricchetti told Republicans that the White House was going to clarify the comments.

A White House official disputed the notion that Ricchetti suggested Biden may have misspoke — an impression that those two sources said was left. The official said that the president’s team anticipated dustups during the early phases of the process and noted that White House press secretary Jen Psaki several times during Friday’s briefing took a softer tone than Biden did on Thursday.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/25/biden-infrastructure-bill-496412

According to two 'sources familiar with Richetti's efforts'.

That means two Republican aides who talked to Politico.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

Well, I guess that's that:

https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1408478816079646722

What a fool. Either you want something done and actually legislate or not and you're just being an obstructionist/my way or the highway. Republicans just don't negotiate in good faith.

The GOP must have lost their minds if they think threatening Joe Manchin is a good strategy

them walking away from this deal would be smack in the face to Joe Manchin and it would also make a lot of Dems on the left very happy

it would all but guarantee that Dems go it alone on infrastructure and at that point not even Joe Manchin would be willing to stop it since the GOP would be betraying him by walking away from a bipartisan deal that he help negotiate......

Pelosi and Biden smacked Manchin in the face by announcing they weren't going to do the deal he worked on without the reconciliation bill first.

I'm pretty sure that Manchin couldn't care less. The point is that he has a trophy to show that he is bipartisan.

Like WV voters will care about that in 3 years.

No idea how this is relevant to my point!

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Why would Rs agree to a bipartisan infrastructure spending if there is gonna be a Reconciliation Bill later to raise taxes, is PELOSI serious about this.


Bernie wants the 6T infrastructure spending and raise taxes on the rich that's what he really want, Rs premise was to agree to not raise taxes in the first place, so much for your compromise


Warren and Bernie been after a wealth tax from the beginning, they ran for Prez and thought they were gonna get 60 in 2020 to pass this and due to Hunter Biden help seal the closely divided Congress we have now
Again, D's need more D's to pass that sort of bill

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Just to provide some context to why Republicans are so angry with President Biden over explicitly calling for a two-track infrastructure deal, and are backing away from negotiations:

Republicans plot an infrastructure 2-step: Spend more, then kill Biden’s agenda

Senate Republicans are mulling support for a massive amount of new spending on infrastructure — in part because they think it’ll help kill President Joe Biden’s liberal agenda.

Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has yet to tip his hand on whether he supports the bipartisan negotiations on Biden's plan for roads and bridges that are being led by Sens. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) and Rob Portman (R-Ohio). But a growing number of Senate Republicans are betting that if a deal is reached on that sort of physical infrastructure, Democrats won’t have the votes needed to pass the rest of Biden’s “soft infrastructure” priorities, such as child care and clean energy.

This is from mid-June.  They only supported the compromise on the presumption that it would kill the rest of Biden's agenda.  Talk about being two-faced.....  

So basically, they wanted to give Biden something so that the rest of his agenda wouldn't have the capital to move forward on.

Biden didn't do himself any good by not having a comprehensive immigration reform bill in agreement for the wall and an energy.policy first before an infrastructure bill that combines Green New Deal along with oil drilling, we haven't had one since Obama administration


We already have Amtrak that Biden gave money to, we don't necessarily need Bullet trains unless we are out of the Pandemic

[roxas11]

Why would Rs agree to a bipartisan infrastructure spending if there is gonna be a Reconciliation Bill later to raise taxes, is PELOSI serious about this.


Bernie wants the 6T infrastructure spending and raise taxes on the rich that's what he really want, Rs premise was to agree to not raise taxes in the first place, so much for your compromise


Warren and Bernie been after a wealth tax from the beginning, they ran for Prez and thought they were gonna get 60 in 2020 to pass this and due to Hunter Biden help seal the closely divided Congress we have now
Again, D's need more D's to pass that sort of bill

republican bill Cassidy himself said on fox news said that even if the Dems went on to do a Reconciliation Bill after the bipartisan deal he still sees it as a big win since the GOP succeeded in cutting both the price and scope of Bidens original infrastructure bill

Plus, I suspect the he knows that moderate Dems are most likely going to also demand a big price cut for the 6 trillion bill Reconciliation Bill that Bernie sanders wants to pass

the bottom line is if the bipartisan pill passes Biden's infrastructure plans will end up costing a lot less than what he originally wanted and if the GOP wants to keep it that way they will be wise not to walk away from the current deal....

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Well, I guess that's that:

https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1408478816079646722

What a fool. Either you want something done and actually legislate or not and you're just being an obstructionist/my way or the highway. Republicans just don't negotiate in good faith.

The GOP must have lost their minds if they think threatening Joe Manchin is a good strategy

them walking away from this deal would be smack in the face to Joe Manchin and it would also make a lot of Dems on the left very happy

it would all but guarantee that Dems go it alone on infrastructure and at that point not even Joe Manchin would be willing to stop it since the GOP would be betraying him by walking away from a bipartisan deal that he help negotiate......

Pelosi and Biden smacked Manchin in the face by announcing they weren't going to do the deal he worked on without the reconciliation bill first.

you are fooling yourself if you honestly believed that Joe Biden did not already talk to Joe Manchin about that before he spoke about it to the public. manchin knows full well what the Dems plans are and it is silly to claim that he was somehow  smacked in the face because Biden talked about a Reconciliation bill that he already knew was coming lol

the harsh reality for the GOP is if they walk away from this deal, Biden will just pass his original giant infrastructure bill and joe Manchin will no longer stand in his way since has already gotten what he wanted out of this deal....

I dunno, sure looks like Biden recognized he goofed it up.  But I guess maybe looking like he goofed up was all part of the plan and Manchin was in on it the whole time.

[roxas11]

Just to provide some context to why Republicans are so angry with President Biden over explicitly calling for a two-track infrastructure deal, and are backing away from negotiations:

Republicans plot an infrastructure 2-step: Spend more, then kill Biden’s agenda

Senate Republicans are mulling support for a massive amount of new spending on infrastructure — in part because they think it’ll help kill President Joe Biden’s liberal agenda.

Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has yet to tip his hand on whether he supports the bipartisan negotiations on Biden's plan for roads and bridges that are being led by Sens. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) and Rob Portman (R-Ohio). But a growing number of Senate Republicans are betting that if a deal is reached on that sort of physical infrastructure, Democrats won’t have the votes needed to pass the rest of Biden’s “soft infrastructure” priorities, such as child care and clean energy.

This is from mid-June.  They only supported the compromise on the presumption that it would kill the rest of Biden's agenda.  Talk about being two-faced.....  

So basically, they wanted to give Biden something so that the rest of his agenda wouldn't have the capital to move forward on.

Biden didn't do himself any good by not having a comprehensive immigration reform bill in agreement for the wall and an energy.policy first before an infrastructure bill that combines Green New Deal along with oil drilling, we haven't had one since Obama administration


We already have Amtrak that Biden gave money to, we don't necessarily need Bullet trains unless we are out of the Pandemic

Wait, you actually think Biden and the Dems should have gotten into a divisive fight over immigration instead of doing something far more popular and less controversial with the American people like infrastructure



good luck getting all the Dems to agree on so called comprehensive immigration reform because make no mistake there is no chance in hell that the GOP would ever support an immigration bill coming from Joe Biden even if the bill included a wall

[roxas11]

Well, I guess that's that:

https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1408478816079646722

What a fool. Either you want something done and actually legislate or not and you're just being an obstructionist/my way or the highway. Republicans just don't negotiate in good faith.

The GOP must have lost their minds if they think threatening Joe Manchin is a good strategy

them walking away from this deal would be smack in the face to Joe Manchin and it would also make a lot of Dems on the left very happy

it would all but guarantee that Dems go it alone on infrastructure and at that point not even Joe Manchin would be willing to stop it since the GOP would be betraying him by walking away from a bipartisan deal that he help negotiate......

Pelosi and Biden smacked Manchin in the face by announcing they weren't going to do the deal he worked on without the reconciliation bill first.

you are fooling yourself if you honestly believed that Joe Biden did not already talk to Joe Manchin about that before he spoke about it to the public. manchin knows full well what the Dems plans are and it is silly to claim that he was somehow  smacked in the face because Biden talked about a Reconciliation bill that he already knew was coming lol

the harsh reality for the GOP is if they walk away from this deal, Biden will just pass his original giant infrastructure bill and joe Manchin will no longer stand in his way since has already gotten what he wanted out of this deal....

I dunno, sure looks like Biden recognized he goofed it up.  But I guess maybe looking like he goofed up was all part of the plan and Manchin was in on it the whole time.

Biden's so called goof is that he was being too honest with the american people about his plans when clearly some in the GOP would have preferred him to keep quiet about the details of their agreement

But behind the scenes both Joe Manchin and the Republicans who are now pretending to be outraged know full well what Bidens plans are. They all knew about the Reconciliation bill and I don't for 1 second believe that BS about them claiming to surprised by the news

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1408888596153700364

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The infrastructure helps our community let's not go overboard on this, Biden is stuck at 53 percent approvals because there is a need for another Stimulus check, the Child tax credit given out is only an advanced payment on their Child tax credit filed on their taxes

Everyone stimulus check have run out and we need a fourth stimulus check, of course he is gonna claim credit for this, but it doesn't fix Covid now on its 15 th month, I can see he is claiming credit that Covid is Eradicated, LOL, LOL it's an infrastructure deal not a stimulus check

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Furthermore, Congress, I hope users know is using Covid Unemployment funds to fund the Infrastructure deal, Manchin and Tester were adament like Sinema was on the VR Filibuster bill, not to give anymore Stimulus checks due to the lack of individuals taking suitable work

[Torie]

I don't believe for one second that the Dems will kill the bipartisan bill, if they don't get a reconciliation  bill with enough goodies in it to satisfy them, for one second, and neither does Manchin of course. This kind of spin gives me vertigo. The public square is but a Kabuki performance these days. Believe what you read or hear at your own risk.

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1409168421720313856

[CookieDamage]

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1409168421720313856

Biden slayed! Although who knows if enough republicans will vote for the bipartisan deal?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I do want this infrastructure deal, but if it does go down to defeat, Congress will still have monies left over for another Stimulus check, they can pass 600 in advance of tax credit like last yr


Bernie said he will be very active in helping more D's get elected in 2022 and we can get rid of Sinema Filibuster once we get 53 seats, that's what's it's called now, since she was the one not Manchin willing to not Reform Filibuster

[Sir Mohamed]

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1409168421720313856

Biden slayed! Although who knows if enough republicans will vote for the bipartisan deal?

I'm sure Biden and Schumer won't put this on the floor without having secured the votes. Both of these are in DC for decades and know how it works.

[Torie]

[GeneralMacArthur]

The $5-6 trillion packages are obviously DOA but it's nice to have them there as something Manchin/Sinema can rail against before they turn around and support the actual reconciliation package.