Is the GOP making a mistake by ignoring Covid/Economy and focusing so much on immigration?

[roxas11]

A recently released ABC/Ipsos poll showed that "57% of Americans disapprove of Biden approach on Immigration and guns, while just over 4 in 10 Americans approve. A majority of Americans (54%) call the situation at the U.S.-Mexico border a crisis, and another 42% believe it is a serious problem but not a crisis. Only 4% of Americans say it is not a serious problem"


This all sounds like great news for the GOP untill you see the rest of the poll...


to add insult to injury Gallup also put out a new poll showing that most American overwhelmingly think Covid and the economy are the most Most Important Problems facing the county right now and only 8 percent feel the same way about immigration

based on these results its clear that if Biden succeeds at bringing in end to covid and reopening the economy than the GOP is going to a very tough spot and Immigration alone may not be enough to save them






          

[Motorcity]

Right now, the GOP needs something to talk about.

Biden's ARP and infrastructure bills are popular. The economy is opening up and anyone can get the vaccine now.

[Stranger in a strange land]

The reason the GOP loves to talk about IMMIGRATION and CANCEL CULTURE is that they can't say what they actually believe on economics, healthcare, infrastructure, or other actual issues, because then even a lot of their core supporters will abandon them.

[Sir Mohamed]

Technically not because the economy is improving and the Biden Admin performs very well in handling the pandemic and vaccinations. By focusing on that, the GOP would remind everyone again how inept and ignorant the previous admin acted during the crisis and how fast the Biden WH got things back on track. Immigration on the other hand remains a vulnerable issue for Biden since he's under pressure from the right-wing and progressives alike. After all, a tough immigration stance is what resonated with the GOP base during the last election they won.

[Person Man]

The only long term silver lining for Democrats on immigration besides the fact no one is really paying too much attention to it right now is that if Hispanics don’t come home in 22 and 24, it frees Democrats to adopt positions that might be more popular to other voters that don’t, but would potentially vote for them.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

The only long term silver lining for Democrats on immigration besides the fact no one is really paying too much attention to it right now is that if Hispanics don’t come home in 22 and 24, it frees Democrats to adopt positions that might be more popular to other voters that don’t, but would potentially vote for them.

After Hispanics shat the bed last year I kinda hope they don’t come home for this very reason. Racial depolarization may be a better thing for our discourse in the long-run.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The Rs aren't gonna win anyways they have to win the big three, and Senate maps in 2022/2024 are bleak for them in those three states.

D's don't have to win the South

Big three MI, PA and WI

[Horus]

No, not at all. Dems have gone too far left on immigration and the GOP knows it.

[Person Man]

The only long term silver lining for Democrats on immigration besides the fact no one is really paying too much attention to it right now is that if Hispanics don’t come home in 22 and 24, it frees Democrats to adopt positions that might be more popular to other voters that don’t, but would potentially vote for them.

After Hispanics shat the bed last year I kinda hope they don’t come home for this very reason. Racial depolarization may be a better thing for our discourse in the long-run.

The only question is how much it would help us getting the anti-anti-Trump voters back on board and how many Obama-Trump voters we can actually win back. My guess is that if Hispanics became swing group, it would have been enough for Trump to win the popular vote by like 1%.

The WWC is what? 2/3 of 2/3 of the vote, right? To gain back 5% of the total vote, we would have to improve by like 12% amongst them. Then again, with population changes maybe only eight or 9%. So Democrats would have to go from 32% of their vote to like 40% of their vote. Then again, if they are able to go from like 56% of the white middle-class vote to 60%, that would make the improvement needed to be like 6%.

So yeah. It would be really good for democracy in general for Democrats to win 44% of the white vote while winning the NPV by the low to mid single digits. Especially with Republicans  getting the same amount with Hispanics.

I could see a Democrat stealing Trump stuff on immigration and trade but otherwise keeping democratic orthodoxy. Maybe eventually adopting more neoconservative foreign policy for dealing with sources of refugees. Liberals right now and even some nationalists hate the idea of intervening militarily to stop a refugee crisis but we kind of done that in Kosovo and Bosnia already. If these sort of things can be billed as a way to help refugees without having to deal with border headaches, it could actually work. Same thing with climate change. A lot of those policies need to be billed as a way to avoid taking on more refugees. Something that is humane for the refugees and preserves “ways of life”. Also being more freed up on immigration could attract even more white collar workers that have to compete with H1-B immigrants. It would definitely help me but I am not sure if it would actually help me to have less H1-B competition. Right now, an H1-B 10 years older than me is willing to work for only 15% more than me. Then  again, since Trump, I have been noticing more coworkers working from home from Canada. In fact this coupled with getting married to a secretary has made it very difficult, if not impossible to leave for Canada in the event of the worst here.

[Ferguson97]

No, it's the correct strategic decision on the GOP's part.

Biden is popular on covid/the economy, so why attack him on it? There's no angle. People are getting vaccinated and the economy is coming back. How could they possibly attack him on it?

Immigration is the only card they have in the deck, so it should not be a surprise they're using it.

[Hope For A New Era]

They're going all-base. Again. While Biden works build a big tent, Republicans are going all-in on their ever-shrinking base that they refuse to even try to expand.

Basically, I see the Seventh Party System as being a bit like the Fourth with the parties reversed. Democrats are just going to become more and more dominant - maybe with the occasional anomalous Republican appearing - until the Republican Party finally takes the opportunity to reinvent itself when the next big crisis occurs a few decades from now. (I suspect this crisis will be somehow related to automation).

[Pericles]

Why do the respondents disapprove of Biden on guns? Did the poll give any more info? It seems like Biden's gun proposals poll well individually.

[Suburbia]

The reason the GOP loves to talk about IMMIGRATION and CANCEL CULTURE is that they can't say what they actually believe on economics, healthcare, infrastructure, or other actual issues, because then even a lot of their core supporters will abandon them.

If Reaganism-Thatcherism is such a failure, why do people like Michael Steele, Ben Carson believe in it and why do parties like the NJGOP and MDGOP abide by it compared to the ARGOP and the KYGOP........

[Inmate Trump]

Ignoring covid cost the GOP the White House and both chambers of Congress.

And even after that they're STILL worshipping Donald Trump.

[Lief 🗽]

Why do the respondents disapprove of Biden on guns? Did the poll give any more info? It seems like Biden's gun proposals poll well individually.

Probably a mix of unanimous disapproval from Republicans (unlike with covid/economy there’s no reason for him to get crossover support here) plus some large amount of disapproval from Democrats who are upset he hasn’t done anything yet.