L.C. 10.14 - FF Act

[S019]

No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No!

[S019]

So, after some thinking, I'm fine with some parts of this and not others, thus an amendment

FF Act

An act that increase Firearm Freedom without removing the most important gun control provisions.

Title 9, Section 3 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

An individual receiving a gun, either through sale or transfer, shall be required to undergo universal comprehensive background checks, with requirements determined by the Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing, which shall include —
(1) not being convicted of a violation of a gun law in the past 3 years from the date of application;
(2) not being convicted of a crime involving bodily harm or the use of a gun in the past 5 years from the date of application;
(3) not being convicted of a crime involving the use of a gun in the past 10 years from the date of application


Title 9, Section 4 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general. —

A “Gun License” shall be required to purchase, sell, or possess a gun in Lincoln.

(b) License types. —

There shall be the following categories of gun licenses —
(1) Class A, for rifles and shotguns; and
(2) Class B, for Class A weapons and handguns.

(c) Renewal. —

An individual shall be required to renew their Gun License every 10 2 years.

(d) Suspension. —

An individual's Gun License may be temporarily or permanently suspended by the court as a result of a criminal conviction relating to the violation of this Act, a violation of another gun law, the use of a gun in a crime, a crime involving bodily harm, or domestic violence.

(e) Requirements. —

An individual shall apply at a at a drivers license facility to get or renew a Gun License, where they shall —
(1) undergo a universal comprehensive background check;
(2) pass a mental health test issued by a psychologist, if they have a history of mental health issues;
(3)(2) show proof of passing a gun training and safety course at a drivers license facility or on a drivers license facility website; and
(4) pass a gun safety exam at such drivers license facility.

(f) Driver's licenses facility. —

The Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing shall provide to drivers license facilities the necessary courses for gun training and safety, accessible both —
(1) at the drivers license facility; and
(2) online.

(g) Waiting period. —

An individual shall not receive a gun license for the first time no sooner than one week (168 hours) after applying for one.

(g)(h) Failure to comply. —

An individual that shall violate Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


Title 9, Section 6 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general. —

No individual shall purchase, sell, or possess
(1) bump stocks;
(2) suppressors;
(3)(2) magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition; and
(4) semi-automatic assault weapons, or semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic handguns, and semi-automatic shotguns.

(b) Penalties. —

An individual that purchases or sells, or possesses one or more of the devices in Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


Title 9, Section 8 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) Any individual who is convicted of a crime involving the use of a gun may have any guns or gun accessories in the individual’s possession permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.

(a) (b) Guns. —

An individual who is convicted of violating a gun law, including this Act, may have any guns involved in or with such crime permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.


(b) (c) Bump stocks; suppressor; large magazines; semi-automatic assault weapons. —

An individual who is convicted of violating a gun law, including this Act, shall have any of the items listed in Section (4)(a) involved in or with such crime permanently confiscated at the discretion of the court.

[S019]

I suppose I could support a bill with everything in the original one but the assault weapons ban reinstated (with a specific definition of an assault weapon), but I would not go much further than that.

Is this an objection to my amendment? Since you're the sponsor of the bill, you need to provide feedback

[S019]

AYE

[S019]

AYE

[S019]

FF Act

An act that increase Firearm Freedom without removing the most important gun control provisions.

Title 9, Section 3 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

An individual receiving a gun, either through sale or transfer, shall be required to undergo universal comprehensive background checks, with requirements determined by the Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing, which shall include —
(1) not being convicted of a violation of a gun law in the past 3 years from the date of application;
(2) not being convicted of a crime involving bodily harm or the use of a gun in the past 5 years from the date of application;
(3) not being convicted of a crime involving the use of a gun in the past 10 years from the date of application


Title 9, Section 4 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general. —

A “Gun License” shall be required to purchase, sell, or possess a gun in Lincoln.

(b) License types. —

There shall be the following categories of gun licenses —
(1) Class A, for rifles and shotguns; and
(2) Class B, for Class A weapons and handguns.

(c) Renewal. —

An individual shall be required to renew their Gun License every 310 years.

(d) Suspension. —

An individual's Gun License may be temporarily or permanently suspended by the court as a result of a criminal conviction relating to the violation of this Act, a violation of another gun law, the use of a gun in a crime, a crime involving bodily harm, or domestic violence.

(e) Requirements. —

An individual shall apply at a at a drivers license facility to get or renew a Gun License, where they shall —
(1) undergo a universal comprehensive background check;
(2) pass a mental health test issued by a psychologist, if they have a history of mental health issues;
(3)(2) show proof of passing a gun training and safety course at a drivers license facility or on a drivers license facility website; and
(4) pass a gun safety exam at such drivers license facility.

(f) Driver's licenses facility. —

The Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing shall provide to drivers license facilities the necessary courses for gun training and safety, accessible both —
(1) at the drivers license facility; and
(2) online.

(g) Waiting period. —

An individual shall not receive a gun license for the first time no sooner than one week (168 hours) after applying for one.

(g)(h) Failure to comply. —

An individual that shall violate Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


Title 9, Section 6 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general. —

No individual shall purchase, sell, or possess
(1) bump stocks;
(2) suppressors;
(3)(2) magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition; and
(4) semi-automatic assault weapons, or semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic handguns, and semi-automatic shotguns.

(b) Penalties. —

An individual that purchases or sells, or possesses one or more of the devices in Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


Title 9, Section 8 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

Any individual who is convicted of a crime involving the use of a gun may have any guns or gun accessories in the individual’s possession permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.

(a) Guns. —

An individual who is convicted of violating a gun law, including this Act, may have any guns involved in or with such crime permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.


(b) Bump stocks; suppressor; large magazines; semi-automatic assault weapons. —

An individual who is convicted of violating a gun law, including this Act, shall have any of the items listed in Section (4)(a) involved in or with such crime permanently confiscated at the discretion of the court.

Amendment for consideration after Wulfric's, given the historical link between mental health and gun violence removing the need to pass a mental examination sounds frankly idiotic, to put it bluntly.

After some research, silencers make it very hard for police to locate active shooters, gunshots should remain loud so police can find these people and apprehend them in time.

[S019]

Objection. A mental health examination does not provide and cannot be used to deny a constitutional right.

Quite frankly, someone who has poor mental health should not be able to use a gun. Guns are extremely dangerous, and we have seen numerous instances where people with mental health issues have committed acts of gun violence, rejection of this amendment is frankly just asking for trouble.

[S019]

My amendment fails 2-3.

Objecting to the AGA Amendment for the purpose of getting a vote on it.

We will now proceed to a combined vote on the amendments with votes pending. If both are adopted, we'll iron out discrepancies later. I've trimmed both proposals down to the changes they make from the OP for visibility:

S019 amendment:

(e) Requirements. —

An individual shall apply at a at a drivers license facility to get or renew a Gun License, where they shall —
(1) undergo a universal comprehensive background check;
(2) pass a mental health test issued by a psychologist, if they have a history of mental health issues;
(3)(2) show proof of passing a gun training and safety course at a drivers license facility or on a drivers license facility website; and
(4) pass a gun safety exam at such drivers license facility.


Title 9, Section 6 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general. —

No individual shall purchase, sell, or possess
(1) bump stocks;
(2) suppressors;
(3)(2) magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition; and
(4) semi-automatic assault weapons, or semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic handguns, and semi-automatic shotguns.

AGA Amendment:

(e) Requirements. —

An individual shall apply at a at a drivers license facility to get or renew a Gun License, where they shall —
(1) undergo a universal comprehensive background check;
(2) not have been adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution by a court
(2)(3) show proof of passing a gun training and safety course at a drivers license facility or on a drivers license facility website; and
(4) pass a gun safety exam at such drivers license facility.

Ballot:

S019 Amendment:

[ X ] Aye
[ ] Nay
[ ] Abstain

AGA Amendment:

[ X ] Aye
[ ] Nay
[ ] Abstain


Members shall cast their votes.

[S019]

I believe the repeal of the ban on silencers is very bad policy, silencers make gun shots much quieter which make it very hard for police to find active shooters during shooting incidents, this could prolong the duration of the shooting and lead to more deaths, I believe the silencer ban should be reinstated.

[S019]

Objection

[S019]

I would also like to add that this bill still doesn't define "assault weapon," so if it's still going to be banned, there has to be some definition.

The definition is "semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic handguns, and semi-automatic shotgun," pretty sure that the "or" is dividing the word and definition. I can contact the original sponsor of this to ensure that was the intent though.

[S019]

I would also like to add that this bill still doesn't define "assault weapon," so if it's still going to be banned, there has to be some definition.

The definition is "semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic handguns, and semi-automatic shotgun," pretty sure that the "or" is dividing the word and definition. I can contact the original sponsor of this to ensure that was the intent though.

A handgun can be an assault weapon? Or is the definition just "semi-automatic rifles."

pretty sure it's all four, but let me ask the original sponsor

[S019]

Amendment (I will not support this bill if this amendment does not pass):

FF Act

An act that increase Firearm Freedom without removing the most important gun control provisions.

Title 9, Section 3 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

An individual receiving a gun, either through sale or transfer, shall be required to undergo universal comprehensive background checks, with requirements determined by the Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing, which shall include —
(1) not being convicted of a violation of a gun law in the past 3 years from the date of application;
(2) not being convicted of a crime involving bodily harm or the use of a gun in the past 5 years from the date of application;
(3) not being convicted of a crime involving the use of a gun in the past 10 years from the date of application


Title 9, Section 4 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general. —

A “Gun License” shall be required to purchase, sell, or possess a gun in Lincoln.

(b) License types. —

There shall be the following categories of gun licenses —
(1) Class A, for rifles and shotguns; and
(2) Class B, for Class A weapons and handguns.

(c) Renewal. —

An individual shall be required to renew their Gun License every 410 years.

(d) Suspension. —

An individual's Gun License may be temporarily or permanently suspended by the court as a result of a criminal conviction relating to the violation of this Act, a violation of another gun law, the use of a gun in a crime, a crime involving bodily harm, or domestic violence.

(e) Requirements. —

An individual shall apply at a at a drivers license facility to get or renew a Gun License, where they shall —
(1) undergo a universal comprehensive background check;
(2) not have been adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution by a court
(2)(3) show proof of passing a gun training and safety course at a drivers license facility or on a drivers license facility website; and
(4) pass a gun safety exam at such drivers license facility.

(f) Driver's licenses facility. —

The Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing shall provide to drivers license facilities the necessary courses for gun training and safety, accessible both —
(1) at the drivers license facility; and
(2) online.

(g) Waiting period. —

An individual shall not receive a gun license for the first time no sooner than one week month (168 730 hours) after applying for one.

(g)(h) Failure to comply. —

An individual that shall violate Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


Title 9, Section 6 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general. —

No individual shall purchase, sell, or possess
(1) bump stocks;
(2) suppressors;
(3)(2) magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition; and
(4)(3) semi-automatic assault weapons, or defined as semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic handguns, and semi-automatic shotguns.
(4) folding or collapsible stocks
(5) bayonet lugs
(6) threaded barrels
(7) grenade launchers
( barrel shrouds

(b) Penalties. —

An individual that purchases or sells, or possesses one or more of the devices in Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


Title 9, Section 8 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

Any individual who is convicted of a crime involving the use of a gun any gun related offense, including any gun-related crime may have any guns or gun accessories in the individual’s possession permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.

(a) Guns. —

An individual who is convicted of violating a gun law, including this Act, may have any guns involved in or with such crime permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.


(b) Bump stocks; suppressor; large magazines; semi-automatic assault weapons. —

An individual who is convicted of violating a gun law, including this Act, shall have any of the items listed in Section (4)(a) involved in or with such crime permanently confiscated at the discretion of the court.

[S019]

Amendment (I will not support this bill if this amendment does not pass):

FF Act

An act that increase Firearm Freedom without removing the most important gun control provisions.

Title 9, Section 3 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

An individual receiving a gun, either through sale or transfer, shall be required to undergo universal comprehensive background checks, with requirements determined by the Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing, which shall include —
(1) not being convicted of a violation of a gun law in the past 3 years from the date of application;
(2) not being convicted of a crime involving bodily harm or the use of a gun in the past 5 years from the date of application;
(3) not being convicted of a crime involving the use of a gun in the past 10 years from the date of application


Title 9, Section 4 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general. —

A “Gun License” shall be required to purchase, sell, or possess a gun in Lincoln.

(b) License types. —

There shall be the following categories of gun licenses —
(1) Class A, for rifles and shotguns; and
(2) Class B, for Class A weapons and handguns.

(c) Renewal. —

An individual shall be required to renew their Gun License every 410 years.

(d) Suspension. —

An individual's Gun License may be temporarily or permanently suspended by the court as a result of a criminal conviction relating to the violation of this Act, a violation of another gun law, the use of a gun in a crime, a crime involving bodily harm, or domestic violence.

(e) Requirements. —

An individual shall apply at a at a drivers license facility to get or renew a Gun License, where they shall —
(1) undergo a universal comprehensive background check;
(2) not have been adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution by a court
(2)(3) show proof of passing a gun training and safety course at a drivers license facility or on a drivers license facility website; and
(4) pass a gun safety exam at such drivers license facility.

(f) Driver's licenses facility. —

The Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing shall provide to drivers license facilities the necessary courses for gun training and safety, accessible both —
(1) at the drivers license facility; and
(2) online.

(g) Waiting period. —

An individual shall not receive a gun license for the first time no sooner than one week month (168 730 hours) after applying for one.

(g)(h) Failure to comply. —

An individual that shall violate Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


Title 9, Section 6 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general. —

No individual shall purchase, sell, or possess
(1) bump stocks;
(2) suppressors;
(3)(2) magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition; and
(4)(3) semi-automatic assault weapons, or defined as semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic handguns, and semi-automatic shotguns.
(4) folding or collapsible stocks
(5) bayonet lugs
(6) threaded barrels
(7) grenade launchers
( barrel shrouds

(b) Penalties. —

An individual that purchases or sells, or possesses one or more of the devices in Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


Title 9, Section 8 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

Any individual who is convicted of a crime involving the use of a gun any gun related offense, including any gun-related crime may have any guns or gun accessories in the individual’s possession permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.

(a) Guns. —

An individual who is convicted of violating a gun law, including this Act, may have any guns involved in or with such crime permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.


(b) Bump stocks; suppressor; large magazines; semi-automatic assault weapons. —

An individual who is convicted of violating a gun law, including this Act, shall have any of the items listed in Section (4)(a) involved in or with such crime permanently confiscated at the discretion of the court.

AGA Amendment:

(4)(3) semi-automatic assault weapons or semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic handguns, and semi-automatic shotguns.

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Ballot:

S019 Amendment:

[ X ] Aye
[ ] Nay
[ ] Abstain

AGA Amendment:

[ ] Aye
[ X ] Nay
[ ] Abstain

[S019]

Honestly, this should just be tabled.

[S019]

No..... Objection, I never understand why some people insist on having more mass shootings occur, but whatever

[S019]

NAY, this bill will create more mass shootings and our children will most certainly not be safe, I highly urge a NAY vote on the final bill as the only responsible course of action. A Yes vote will be irresponsible and could possibly mean blood indirectly on the hands of the legislature. Vote NO to protect our schools, our communities, and our homes!

[S019]

Objection

[S019]

NAY, this is an incredibly bad bill, fortunately I won’t be around to experience its aftermath, I do feel bad for the countless people who will die due to increase in mass shootings that this bill will precipitate

[S019]

I'll note that the ban on semi automatic handguns aka pistols is taken from federal law, if this passes, it is in contradiction of federal law and someone will sue to overturn this law.

[S019]

It’s very disappointing that this passed, this is among the worst bills that I’ve debated in my Atlasian career.

[S019]

It’s very disappointing that this passed, this is among the worst bills that I’ve debated in my Atlasian career.

This bill is so watered down that it barely removes more gun control than it adds. You have yet to provide any evidence that it would actually increase deaths.

The removal of the handgun ban is very alarming, as handguns contribute to a significant amount of deaths. Also 10 years is way too long for a license renewal period.

[S019]

It’s very disappointing that this passed, this is among the worst bills that I’ve debated in my Atlasian career.

This bill is so watered down that it barely removes more gun control than it adds. You have yet to provide any evidence that it would actually increase deaths.

The removal of the handgun ban is very alarming, as handguns contribute to a significant amount of deaths. Also 10 years is way too long for a license renewal period.

Semi-automatic handguns are so widespread that banning them would just create a black market where there are no background checks available. Banning such a common weapon also runs into constitutional concerns (see the RL case DC v. Heller). Requiring a license to be renewed every three years wouldn't have much effect unless you are confiscating guns from people without a license, which would lead to way too many shootouts with law enforcement and was thankfully stopped by this bill. Renewing a license every three years just seems like a pain.

I guess this is where we disagree. I strongly disagree with the logic in DC v Heller and believe it was a bunk partisan where five right wing judges perverted the meaning of the second amendment. It is the worst decision of this millennium and we will feel its consequences for decades. Also I do support gun confiscation for those who don't own licenses, and it being a pain is good, maybe that will convince people to give up their stupid guns.