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AGA
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« on: March 28, 2021, 02:18:55 PM »

I got rid of some of the more strict measures of the law. In section 4, I increased the duration of a license from 3 to 10 years. I got rid of the provision where someone must pass a mental health evaluation because a physician cannot deny someone a constitutional right. In section 6, I removed the ban on suppressors. Suppressors provide a convenience to gun owners and help prevent hearing damage. A gun shot is still very loud with a suppressor, and there isn’t any evidence that banning them reduces gun homocides. I got rid of the ban on all semi-automatic guns. There isn’t much evidence that banning semi-automatic assault weapons and rifles reduces gun violence. It doesn’t seem that these bans are necessary considering the other gun control measures in the bill. I changed section 9 so that only someone convicted of a crime with a gun can be subject to confiscation. The current law allows for confiscation for merely possessing a banned firearm, which is dangerous and impractical.

There are two sections where I added additonal security measures, sections 3 and 4. In section 3, I added a provision preventing anyone convicted of a violent crime involving a gun from passing a background check for ten years. In section 4, I added a one-week waiting period, which has been shown to reduce suicides.
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2021, 02:48:30 PM »
« Edited: March 28, 2021, 03:00:36 PM by AGA »

I suppose I could support a bill with everything in the original one but the assault weapons ban reinstated (with a specific definition of an assault weapon), but I would not go much further than that.
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AGA
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2021, 04:30:27 PM »

I suppose I could support a bill with everything in the original one but the assault weapons ban reinstated (with a specific definition of an assault weapon), but I would not go much further than that.

Is this an objection to my amendment? Since you're the sponsor of the bill, you need to provide feedback

Yes, I object. Kind of defeats the point of the bill if all the gun control rollbacks are removed.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2021, 04:40:03 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2021, 12:24:11 AM »

Objection
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2021, 12:49:04 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2021, 01:41:32 PM »

Objection. A mental health examination does not provide and cannot be used to deny a constitutional right.
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2021, 12:40:55 PM »

Currently working on an amendment to address some concerns.
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AGA
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2021, 07:32:26 PM »

This amendment seems to be an improvement over the original bill. I added a more reasonable mental health provision.

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FF Act

An act that increase Firearm Freedom without removing the most important gun control provisions.

Title 9, Section 3 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

An individual receiving a gun, either through sale or transfer, shall be required to undergo universal comprehensive background checks, with requirements determined by the Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing, which shall include —
(1) not being convicted of a violation of a gun law in the past 3 years from the date of application;
(2) not being convicted of a crime involving bodily harm or the use of a gun in the past 5 years from the date of application;
(3) not being convicted of a crime involving the use of a gun in the past 10 years

Title 9, Section 4 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general. —

A “Gun License” shall be required to purchase, sell, or possess a gun in Lincoln.

(b) License types. —

There shall be the following categories of gun licenses —
(1) Class A, for rifles and shotguns; and
(2) Class B, for Class A weapons and handguns.

(c) Renewal. —

An individual shall be required to renew their Gun License every 310 years.

(d) Suspension. —

An individual's Gun License may be temporarily or permanently suspended by the court as a result of a criminal conviction relating to the violation of this Act, a violation of another gun law, the use of a gun in a crime, a crime involving bodily harm, or domestic violence.

(e) Requirements. —

An individual shall apply at a at a drivers license facility to get or renew a Gun License, where they shall —
(1) undergo a universal comprehensive background check;
(2) not have been adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution by a court
(2)(3) show proof of passing a gun training and safety course at a drivers license facility or on a drivers license facility website; and
(4) pass a gun safety exam at such drivers license facility.

(f) Driver's licenses facility. —

The Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing shall provide to drivers license facilities the necessary courses for gun training and safety, accessible both —
(1) at the drivers license facility; and
(2) online.

(g) Waiting period. —

An individual shall not receive a gun license for the first time no sooner than one week after applying for one.


(g)(h) Failure to comply. —

An individual that shall violate Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.



Title 9, Section 6 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

Section 6. Bans

(a) In general. —

No individual shall purchase, sell, or possess
(1) bump stocks;
(2) suppressors;
(3) magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition; and
(4) semi-automatic assault weapons, or semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic handguns, and semi-automatic shotguns.

(b) Penalties. —

An individual that purchases or sells, or possesses one or more of the devices in Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.

Title 9, Section 8 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

Any individual who is convicted of a violent crime involving the use of a gun may have any guns or gun accessories in the individual’s possession permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.

(a) Guns. —

An individual who is convicted of violating a gun law, including this Act, may have any guns involved in or with such crime permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.


(b) Bump stocks; suppressor; large magazines; semi-automatic assault weapons. —

An individual who is convicted of violating a gun law, including this Act, shall have any of the items listed in Section (4)(a) involved in or with such crime permanently confiscated at the discretion of the court.

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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2021, 10:50:50 AM »

S019 Amendment:

[ ] Aye
[X] Nay
[ ] Abstain

AGA Amendment:

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay
[ ] Abstain
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AGA
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2021, 02:24:56 PM »

I believe the repeal of the ban on silencers is very bad policy, silencers make gun shots much quieter which make it very hard for police to find active shooters during shooting incidents, this could prolong the duration of the shooting and lead to more deaths, I believe the silencer ban should be reinstated.

Not really, gun shots are still pretty loud even with a silencer.
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AGA
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2021, 02:53:15 PM »

This amendment gets rid of the ban on semi-automatic shotguns and handguns. I would rather get rid of the ban on assault weapons and semi-automatic rifles too, but I'm not sure if that has the votes to pass. I would also like to add that this bill still doesn't define "assault weapon," so if it's still going to be banned, there has to be some definition.

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FF Act

An act that increase Firearm Freedom without removing the most important gun control provisions.

Title 9, Section 3 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

An individual receiving a gun, either through sale or transfer, shall be required to undergo universal comprehensive background checks, with requirements determined by the Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing, which shall include —
(1) not being convicted of a violation of a gun law in the past 3 years from the date of application;
(2) not being convicted of a crime involving bodily harm or the use of a gun in the past 5 years from the date of application;
(3) not being convicted of a crime involving the use of a gun in the past 10 years from the date of application


Title 9, Section 4 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general. —

A “Gun License” shall be required to purchase, sell, or possess a gun in Lincoln.

(b) License types. —

There shall be the following categories of gun licenses —
(1) Class A, for rifles and shotguns; and
(2) Class B, for Class A weapons and handguns.

(c) Renewal. —

An individual shall be required to renew their Gun License every 310 years.

(d) Suspension. —

An individual's Gun License may be temporarily or permanently suspended by the court as a result of a criminal conviction relating to the violation of this Act, a violation of another gun law, the use of a gun in a crime, a crime involving bodily harm, or domestic violence.

(e) Requirements. —

An individual shall apply at a at a drivers license facility to get or renew a Gun License, where they shall —
(1) undergo a universal comprehensive background check;
(2) not have been adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution by a court
(2)(3) show proof of passing a gun training and safety course at a drivers license facility or on a drivers license facility website; and
(4) pass a gun safety exam at such drivers license facility.

(f) Driver's licenses facility. —

The Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing shall provide to drivers license facilities the necessary courses for gun training and safety, accessible both —
(1) at the drivers license facility; and
(2) online.

(g) Waiting period. —

An individual shall not receive a gun license for the first time no sooner than one week (168 hours) after applying for one.


(g)(h) Failure to comply. —

An individual that shall violate Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


Title 9, Section 6 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general. —

No individual shall purchase, sell, or possess
(1) bump stocks;
(2) suppressors;
(3)(2) magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition; and
(4)(3) semi-automatic assault weapons or semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic handguns, and semi-automatic shotguns.

(b) Penalties. —

An individual that purchases or sells, or possesses one or more of the devices in Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


Title 9, Section 8 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

Any individual who is convicted of a crime involving the use of a gun may have any guns or gun accessories in the individual’s possession permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.

(a) Guns. —

An individual who is convicted of violating a gun law, including this Act, may have any guns involved in or with such crime permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.


(b) Bump stocks; suppressor; large magazines; semi-automatic assault weapons. —

An individual who is convicted of violating a gun law, including this Act, shall have any of the items listed in Section (4)(a) involved in or with such crime permanently confiscated at the discretion of the court.

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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2021, 03:52:30 PM »

I would also like to add that this bill still doesn't define "assault weapon," so if it's still going to be banned, there has to be some definition.



The definition is "semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic handguns, and semi-automatic shotgun," pretty sure that the "or" is dividing the word and definition. I can contact the original sponsor of this to ensure that was the intent though.


A handgun can be an assault weapon? Or is the definition just "semi-automatic rifles."
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2021, 11:43:52 AM »

Objection
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2021, 03:35:27 PM »

If that is the case, then without objection, I would like to change my amendment to the following to avoid redundancy:

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(4)(3) semi-automatic assault weapons or semi-automatic rifles, semi-automatic handguns, and semi-automatic shotguns.

S019 Amendment:

[ ] Aye
[X] Nay
[ ] Abstain

AGA Amendment:

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay
[ ] Abstain
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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2021, 02:17:25 PM »

Objection. I would like to get rid of the handgun ban. I would be fine with a final vote afterwards.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2021, 02:41:29 PM »

This just gets rid of the semi-automatic handgun ban.

FF Act

An act that increase Firearm Freedom without removing the most important gun control provisions.

Title 9, Section 3 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

An individual receiving a gun, either through sale or transfer, shall be required to undergo universal comprehensive background checks, with requirements determined by the Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing, which shall include —
(1) not being convicted of a violation of a gun law in the past 3 years from the date of application;
(2) not being convicted of a crime involving bodily harm or the use of a gun in the past 5 years from the date of application;
(3) not being convicted of a crime involving the use of a gun in the past 10 years from the date of application


Title 9, Section 4 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general. —

A “Gun License” shall be required to purchase, sell, or possess a gun in Lincoln.

(b) License types. —

There shall be the following categories of gun licenses —
(1) Class A, for rifles and shotguns; and
(2) Class B, for Class A weapons and handguns.

(c) Renewal. —

An individual shall be required to renew their Gun License every 310 years.

(d) Suspension. —

An individual's Gun License may be temporarily or permanently suspended by the court as a result of a criminal conviction relating to the violation of this Act, a violation of another gun law, the use of a gun in a crime, a crime involving bodily harm, or domestic violence.

(e) Requirements. —

An individual shall apply at a at a drivers license facility to get or renew a Gun License, where they shall —
(1) undergo a universal comprehensive background check;
(2) not have been adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution by a court
(2)(3) show proof of passing a gun training and safety course at a drivers license facility or on a drivers license facility website; and
(4) pass a gun safety exam at such drivers license facility.

(f) Driver's licenses facility. —

The Bureau of Firearm Safety and Licensing shall provide to drivers license facilities the necessary courses for gun training and safety, accessible both —
(1) at the drivers license facility; and
(2) online.

(g) Waiting period. —

An individual shall not receive a gun license for the first time no sooner than one week (168 hours) after applying for one.


(g)(h) Failure to comply. —

An individual that shall violate Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


Title 9, Section 6 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

(a) In general. —

No individual shall purchase, sell, or possess
(1) bump stocks;
(2) suppressors;
(3)(2) magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition; and
(4)(3) semi-automatic assault weapons or, defined as semi-automatic rifles and semi-automatic shotguns.

(b) Penalties. —

An individual that purchases or sells, or possesses one or more of the devices in Subsection (a) may face the following penalties at the discretion of the court —
(1) a fine not exceeding $100,000; or
(2) a term of imprisonment of no more than 10 consecutive years.


Title 9, Section 8 of the Consolidate Laws of Lincoln Omnibus Act is amended as follows:

Any individual who is convicted of a crime involving the use of a gun may have any guns or gun accessories in the individual’s possession permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.

(a) Guns. —

An individual who is convicted of violating a gun law, including this Act, may have any guns involved in or with such crime permanently confiscated by Lincoln at the discretion of the court.


(b) Bump stocks; suppressor; large magazines; semi-automatic assault weapons. —

An individual who is convicted of violating a gun law, including this Act, shall have any of the items listed in Section (4)(a) involved in or with such crime permanently confiscated at the discretion of the court.

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« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2021, 04:04:28 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2021, 11:11:58 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2021, 11:06:30 AM »

It’s very disappointing that this passed, this is among the worst bills that I’ve debated in my Atlasian career.

This bill is so watered down that it barely removes more gun control than it adds. You have yet to provide any evidence that it would actually increase deaths.
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2021, 02:00:59 PM »

It’s very disappointing that this passed, this is among the worst bills that I’ve debated in my Atlasian career.

This bill is so watered down that it barely removes more gun control than it adds. You have yet to provide any evidence that it would actually increase deaths.

The removal of the handgun ban is very alarming, as handguns contribute to a significant amount of deaths. Also 10 years is way too long for a license renewal period.

Semi-automatic handguns are so widespread that banning them would just create a black market where there are no background checks available. Banning such a common weapon also runs into constitutional concerns (see the RL case DC v. Heller). Requiring a license to be renewed every three years wouldn't have much effect unless you are confiscating guns from people without a license, which would lead to way too many shootouts with law enforcement and was thankfully stopped by this bill. Renewing a license every three years just seems like a pain.
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