Gore vs. Bush 1988

[Reignman]

Gore picks Clinton as his running mate.

What's the map look like?

Without Willie Horton, I think we get...

Gore 273-265 and by 1% in the popular vote.

[Lincoln Republican]

1988

Instead of Bush/Dukakis 426/112

Bush/Quayle                359
Gore/Clinton                179

[Lincoln Republican]

1992

Instead of Bush/Clinton 370/168

Gore/Clinton                308
Bush/Quayle                230

[Reignman]

1992

Instead of Bush/Clinton 370/168

Gore/Clinton                308
Bush/Quayle                230

I messed up by naming this 1988 when I meant 1992; see new thread.

[True Democrat]

281-257 Bush

[nini2287]

I'm not sure how I would have voted but Bush would win in 1988.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Bush wins still but not as much:

[WalterMitty]

you all are underestimating the severity of the farm crisis in the upper midwest in 1988.

the gore/clinton ticket would have done very well in those farm states.

[True Democrat]

I change my prediction:



312-222
Kansas might have been within 5 points.

[Dr. Cynic]

I think Winfield has the most accurate map. The border Southern states would tossup evenly, and Ohio would probably go Bush if there was a low turnout in Cleveland, which is heavily Democratic.

[True Democrat]

1992

Instead of Bush/Clinton 370/168

Gore/Clinton                308
Bush/Quayle                230

Why would Maine and NJ vote for Gore (a communitarian) when they didn't vote for Dukakis?  NJ was way above Bush's national average.  Also, Michigan leaned Republican in the 80s.

[Reignman]

1992

Instead of Bush/Clinton 370/168

Gore/Clinton                308
Bush/Quayle                230

Why would Maine and NJ vote for Gore (a communitarian) when they didn't vote for Dukakis?  NJ was way above Bush's national average.  Also, Michigan leaned Republican in the 80s.

that's a '92 map.

[J. J.]

My prediction:

206  Gore/Clinton

332 Bush/Quayle

Gore has two problems:

1.  He indirectly bashed Jesse Jackson in the primaries; there will be weaker Black support.  Jackson was exceptionally popular with the Black community, more so than today, and this would have been a one to one battle.

2.  Clinton has "bimbo eruptions."  In 1988, there are not in the distant past and they are sprung immediately on the country after he's nominated.  This also comes on the heals of Hart's withdraw for sexual impropriety.

There was also the draft question.

Clinton had ample time to counter attack in 1992, but this would have come out in July or August of 1988. 

Clinton here is a worse political choice than Quayle, politically.  The firestorm that erupted over Quayle would have look like a burnt out match in comparison.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Bush - 326
Gore - 212

[WalterMitty]

the correct answer:

gore/clinton: 52%, 307 EVs
bush/quayle: 47%. 231 EVs

[True Democrat]

the correct answer:

gore/clinton: 52%, 307 EVs
bush/quayle: 47%. 231 EVs

I highly doubt New York would vote over 60% for Gore.

[WalterMitty]

the correct answer:

gore/clinton: 52%, 307 EVs
bush/quayle: 47%. 231 EVs

I highly doubt New York would vote over 60% for Gore.

it did in 2000.

granted that was post-clinton, when suburbia realized that the country wouldnt go to hell if a democrat was president.  clinton breached a psychological barrier, so to speak.

[J. J.]

the correct answer:

gore/clinton: 52%, 307 EVs
bush/quayle: 47%. 231 EVs

I do not see CA or NM (or even IL) going for Gore in 1988.

[True Democrat]

the correct answer:

gore/clinton: 52%, 307 EVs
bush/quayle: 47%. 231 EVs

I do not see CA or NM (or even IL) going for Gore in 1988.

CA is a stretch, but I think Gore (a communitarian in 88) would do well in NM and downstate Illinois.

[WalterMitty]

the correct answer:

gore/clinton: 52%, 307 EVs
bush/quayle: 47%. 231 EVs

I do not see CA or NM (or even IL) going for Gore in 1988.

CA is a stretch, but I think Gore (a communitarian in 88) would do well in NM and downstate Illinois.

bush won illinois by 2% against dukakis.  i definitely think gore couldve done better than the duke in the land of lincoln.

ca and nm would have been very close, but i think gore would have squeaked it out.

[J. J.]

bush won illinois by 2% against dukakis.  i definitely think gore couldve done better than the duke in the land of lincoln.

ca and nm would have been very close, but i think gore would have squeaked it out.

IL I can see, but not CA or NM.  The Gore of 1988 was a lot different in 1988 that the one of 2000.  Likewise, CA and NM were a lot different.

I don't see any appeal of either Clinton or Gore in CA and NM in 1988. 

If there had been another VP candidate, it might have worked.

1988 Clinton as a VP candidate would have been a worse disaster than J. Danforth.