Is the Ron DeSantis hype real or just a meme?

[MaximaEt_Illustratum]

DeSantis is overrated

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

He's overrated

[Suburbia]

He's overrated

How so? He's fairly popular, he tied with Latino men 49-49 with Andrew Gillum in 2018......I think he is a bit overrated, but he could stumble.......but explain how he is overrated?

[dw93]

It's real until it's not real.

[Motorcity]

He's overrated

How so? He's fairly popular, he tied with Latino men 49-49 with Andrew Gillum in 2018......I think he is a bit overrated, but he could stumble.......but explain how he is overrated?

Well, the Latino population isn't the same as the national population. It has more Cubans

[Person Man]

I will say that there have been a lot of rising stars in DeSantis's position, who eventually stumble (Gavin Newsom, George Allen, Anthony Weiner) or never truly catch fire (Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, Bryan Schweitzer).

DeSantis's biggest asset is not his elite pedigree, electoral success, or his ability to triangulate, but that he has his own version of "charisma" that is very profound, yet is not obvious. He is no Reagan or even Obama, but he could be seen as an upgraded version of Trump. Personally, I think W was an intermediate step between Reagan and Trump.

Outside of scenarios where  Biden dies and Harris can't perform, or the next 4 years are really that bad, I think DeSantis could win, it would be a  very close, but predictable win. He's still the underdog, though.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The media hasn't scrutinized DeSantis, but he's like every R, out there in favor of tax cuts

I don't understand any D that praises DeSantis, he praises Rush Limbaugh

Once DeSantis releases a tax cut plan he will be scrutinized by the media

[jdk]

Its as real as the Chris Christie hype from 2013. Doesn't mean it won't last untill 2024 but we've seen many prospective presidential candidates get hyped up only to sputter out before Iowa.

So as long as he doesn't close down any bridges, he's good. I really think Christie would have easily gotten the nomination and won the White House if not for Bridgegate.

Bridgegate started the decline but he made so many political mistakes during his second term as governor that I'm not sure he'd have gotten the nomination anyway.

Plus a lot of the hype around him came in the wake of the way he stepped up after Sandy, that wouldn't have lasted all the way until 2016

[jdk]

Desantis is that guy who is gonna be hyped up a lot, but then drop out before Iowa, bookmark me, IDC. I actually want to see how this comment will age

I see him as that candidate who's campaign falls apart due to a poor debate performance.  If he emerges as a frontrunner, he'll have the other candidates targeting him on the debate stage.  And we've constantly seen how easily he gets rattled and loses his composure.  What's going to happen when one of the other candidates goes after him, or the moderator asks him a difficult question, and he completely melts down and throws a temper tantrum on the debate stage like he always does anytime he's challenged, or gets the slightest bit of criticism

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

He hasn't passed a tax cut plan due to FL have no income tax, he doesn't have to

As soon as he does, he will be scrutinized and taking away UBI Unemployment benefits and Stimulus checks

[Jerseyrules]

I think there are a ton of Republicans who know his name nationwide – just anecdotally, I know Republicans on both coasts who routinely mention him as their top choice if Trump doesn't run again. Obviously it's still 3.5 years out, he has to win reelection in 2022, etc., but I think it's hard to see other nationally viable Republicans right now who would be a more logical and/or popular choice. Obviously the Trump 2024 memes are memes for a reason, but I think he could play a decisive role as kingmaker. I think anyone who lost the 2016 primaries to Trump would also be a non-starter, because a lot of them have either done a complete about-face on many of their positions since then, like Rubio and possibly Cruz, or the sheer magnitude of their defeats (again, Rubio). I'm not saying it's impossible to bounce back from that, but it's definitely difficult. And I think there's an appetite for someone who's a relative newcomer, so people from the class of 2010 / 2012 may be a tough sell. And while some have mentioned the similarity of DeSantis's polling numbers to Christie's around this time in 2013, I think the main difference is that DeSantis is governor of one of the largest states in the country.

[Person Man]

Desantis is that guy who is gonna be hyped up a lot, but then drop out before Iowa, bookmark me, IDC. I actually want to see how this comment will age

I see him as that candidate who's campaign falls apart due to a poor debate performance.  If he emerges as a frontrunner, he'll have the other candidates targeting him on the debate stage.  And we've constantly seen how easily he gets rattled and loses his composure.  What's going to happen when one of the other candidates goes after him, or the moderator asks him a difficult question, and he completely melts down and throws a temper tantrum on the debate stage like he always does anytime he's challenged, or gets the slightest bit of criticism

The guy's a punk/bitch/whatever you call it. There's no doubt about that. Guess who else is? Trump.
People who like his policies will like this feature. Then again, it remains to be seen if he can actually be Trump.

The Republican Party is really pushing to reproduce a failed archetype but because of its performance versus its expectations, they won't let go of it.

[SWE]

Depends on what you mean. In terms of winning the primary yeah he currently seems like one of the safer horses to back if Trump doesn't run, but as a general election candidate he's not particularly remarkable. He's not a complete joke candidate in the realm of say, Romney 2012, but against an incumbent Biden whose administration isn't regarded as a disaster by 2024, he isn't much of a threat at all.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

DeSANTIS is a weak candidate he is struggling against Nikki Died and only beat a Socialisic Afro American in Andrew Gillium by .5, as soon as he comes out with a tax cut if he survives the Gov race of 2022 he will be labeled as a typical R

Everyone doesn't like DeSantis

[Person Man]

Depends on what you mean. In terms of winning the primary yeah he currently seems like one of the safer horses to back if Trump doesn't run, but as a general election candidate he's not particularly remarkable. He's not a complete joke candidate in the realm of say, Romney 2012, but against an incumbent Biden whose administration isn't regarded as a disaster by 2024, he isn't much of a threat at all.

Romney 2012 was actually somewhat strong. He was on par with Kerry, I think.

[EastwoodS]

Depends on what you mean. In terms of winning the primary yeah he currently seems like one of the safer horses to back if Trump doesn't run, but as a general election candidate he's not particularly remarkable. He's not a complete joke candidate in the realm of say, Romney 2012, but against an incumbent Biden whose administration isn't regarded as a disaster by 2024, he isn't much of a threat at all.

Romney 2012 was actually somewhat strong. He was on par with Kerry, I think.

Mitt Romney was strong at the beginning but it’s weird; it’s like the longer the campaign went on the weaker and more cucked he got. Not much of a fighter and definitely not one who wanted the responsibility of the presidency clearly..

[SAAuthCapitalist]

Depends on what you mean. In terms of winning the primary yeah he currently seems like one of the safer horses to back if Trump doesn't run, but as a general election candidate he's not particularly remarkable. He's not a complete joke candidate in the realm of say, Romney 2012, but against an incumbent Biden whose administration isn't regarded as a disaster by 2024, he isn't much of a threat at all.

Romney 2012 was actually somewhat strong. He was on par with Kerry, I think.

Mitt Romney was strong at the beginning but it’s weird; it’s like the longer the campaign went on the weaker and more cucked he got. Not much of a fighter and definitely not one who wanted the responsibility of the presidency clearly..

Romney ran a terrible campaign in 2012. He never enthused the Republican base and was not exactly popular among independents, was completely unwilling to fight, and more so, his actual campaign itself was horribly ran.

I seriously doubt Ron will campaign like a 2012 Romney. Except him to be more on the attack and to stand up for himself against the evil and vicious left wing media.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

He will be a strong candidate in both primary and general.

good points here from Barro & Yglesias:

https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/1379178191915524099?s=20

[Heebie Jeebie]

https://mobile.twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1379194733994639362

[politics_king]

I think DeSantis could be the nominee if he decides to run. If Biden runs again, it'll be hard for anyone to defeat Biden. DeSantis gets re-elected Governor and can then run. Again Kamala in 2028.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Ron DeSANTIS isn't gonna be Prez he won't win MI, PA and Wzi against Biden, Afro Americans are the Majority in the Rust belt not Latinos

He won't win NV and AZ either due to Rosen and Sinema will definitely win

[ajc0918]

DeSantis is good on paper but he cracks under pressure sometimes which causes viral videos where he looks really bad. He has a pretty short temper.

Also not sure where the "he is a good campaigner" narrative is coming from. He was okay in 2018 but frankly anyone would benefit from the GOP turnout machine in Florida. I think he poses a serious challenge to democrats if he runs in 2024 but I'm starting to feel like he's getting too hyped up.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

He is overhyped, just like John Edwards was overhyped and Bob Shrum errored in picking Edwards soft on military and Gephardt would have indeed won CO, and secured the Prez Election after Bin Laden tape..CO and NV and NM were there that's why they easily flipped in 2006 and 2008.


No one is gonna beat Biden in MI  PA and WI with Bob Casey Jr not even DeSantis

Obviously, he is overhyped for his looks, he wants to cut Corporate taxes and no infrastructure as soon as he comes out with that 20 percent rate cut he will be scrutinized

FL doesn't have any income tax he doesn't have to come out with cuts, he only has to sell his opposition will raise your taxes and it works

[Non Swing Voter]

What Biden states does he flip back?  I see little chance of him flipping Pennsylvania or Michigan unless there's a deep recession.