KY-Sen 2022: Charles Booker in

[Alben Barkley]

I'm inclined to start this at Likely R. Paul isn't as strong as he appears. He's a lot like Matt Bevin would be if he were a Senator, very weak, and very beatable with the right candidate in the right year. I'm not sure Booker is that candidate, and I'm not sure 2022 is that year.

Likely R, closer to Safe R than Lean R.

No.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Booker won't win but would do better than McGrift. I say go for it. We tried the centrist Dem strategy of running Republicans to  beat Republicans and it doesn't work, not unless the math has genuinely turned to favor Democrats (i.e. Colorado) in which case a more progressive candidate could have won anyway.

[KaiserDave]

Booker won't win but would do better than McGrift. I say go for it. We tried the centrist Dem strategy of running Republicans to  beat Republicans and it doesn't work, not unless the math has genuinely turned to favor Democrats (i.e. Colorado) in which case a more progressive candidate could have won anyway.

Not always true, especially in the case of Manchin. And while Donnelly, Bredesen, and McCaskill all lost, they dramatically over performed their states partisan leans.

The actual policy of Democratic candidates doesn't matter so much, it only really matters as it relates to messaging.

Moderates (think Manchin, Peterson, Klobuchar) and progressives (think Cartwright, Brown, Schweitzer) can both dramatically over perform partisan lean in their states. Messaging matters far more than actual policies.

And moderates (think McGrath, Braley, Christy Smith, Feltes) and progressives (think Kara Eastman, Zuckerman, Gina Ortiz Jones) can both pathetically flop and fail.

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Why can’t he just run for Yarmuth’s seat down the line?

[brucejoel99]

Booker won't win but would do better than McGrift. I say go for it. We tried the centrist Dem strategy of running Republicans to  beat Republicans and it doesn't work, not unless the math has genuinely turned to favor Democrats (i.e. Colorado) in which case a more progressive candidate could have won anyway.

This Hick heresy will not be tolerated, prepare to die.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Why can’t he just run for Yarmuth’s seat down the line?

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Because Rand Paul made a silly comment about AA dropping out of high school due to raising minimum wage and Paul is vulnerable because the minimum wage is incriminates not automatic, something that Rs want voters to believe

[Lambsbread]

Safe R -> Likely R just without the McGrath amounts of money contesting the race.

Stop. Unless you're being sarcastic, this race is Safe R, period.

Oh I don't think there's any conceivable scenario in which Rand loses, but I think Booker could do better than McGrath for sure and possibly better than Grimes in '14/Gray in '16 (40-42%) but his ceiling probably no higher than maybe 44% at best.

Booker would certainly get less than 40%.

If democrats nominate him I could see Paul getting a larger margin of victory than any other republican senatorial candidate got over the past 2 decades.

Doubt

[Brittain33]

Every time I open this board, I read this as Charlie Baker.

[KaiserDave]

Safe R -> Likely R just without the McGrath amounts of money contesting the race.

Stop. Unless you're being sarcastic, this race is Safe R, period.

Oh I don't think there's any conceivable scenario in which Rand loses, but I think Booker could do better than McGrath for sure and possibly better than Grimes in '14/Gray in '16 (40-42%) but his ceiling probably no higher than maybe 44% at best.

Booker would certainly get less than 40%.

If democrats nominate him I could see Paul getting a larger margin of victory than any other republican senatorial candidate got over the past 2 decades.

So true
Pragmatic Moderate Obama-Lunsford-Conway-Obama-Grimes-Clinton-Gray-Biden-McGrath voters don't like spooky scary socialists like Charles Booker!

[Frenchrepublican]

Safe R -> Likely R just without the McGrath amounts of money contesting the race.

Stop. Unless you're being sarcastic, this race is Safe R, period.

Oh I don't think there's any conceivable scenario in which Rand loses, but I think Booker could do better than McGrath for sure and possibly better than Grimes in '14/Gray in '16 (40-42%) but his ceiling probably no higher than maybe 44% at best.

Booker would certainly get less than 40%.

If democrats nominate him I could see Paul getting a larger margin of victory than any other republican senatorial candidate got over the past 2 decades.

So you think Rand Paul will win by a bigger margin than Jeff Sessions did in 2014?

I'm talking about KY senatorial races

[Frenchrepublican]

Safe R -> Likely R just without the McGrath amounts of money contesting the race.

Stop. Unless you're being sarcastic, this race is Safe R, period.

Oh I don't think there's any conceivable scenario in which Rand loses, but I think Booker could do better than McGrath for sure and possibly better than Grimes in '14/Gray in '16 (40-42%) but his ceiling probably no higher than maybe 44% at best.

Booker would certainly get less than 40%.

If democrats nominate him I could see Paul getting a larger margin of victory than any other republican senatorial candidate got over the past 2 decades.

So true
Pragmatic Moderate Obama-Lunsford-Conway-Obama-Grimes-Clinton-Gray-Biden-McGrath voters don't like spooky scary socialists like Charles Booker!

Do you understand that Obama/Lunsford/Conway/Obama/Grimes/Clinton/Gray/Biden/McGrath voters represent at the best 1/3 of the KY electorate ?

[gerritcole]

Booker should primary Yarmuth

[KaiserDave]

Safe R -> Likely R just without the McGrath amounts of money contesting the race.

Stop. Unless you're being sarcastic, this race is Safe R, period.

Oh I don't think there's any conceivable scenario in which Rand loses, but I think Booker could do better than McGrath for sure and possibly better than Grimes in '14/Gray in '16 (40-42%) but his ceiling probably no higher than maybe 44% at best.

Booker would certainly get less than 40%.

If democrats nominate him I could see Paul getting a larger margin of victory than any other republican senatorial candidate got over the past 2 decades.

So true
Pragmatic Moderate Obama-Lunsford-Conway-Obama-Grimes-Clinton-Gray-Biden-McGrath voters don't like spooky scary socialists like Charles Booker!

Do you understand that Obama/Lunsford/Conway/Obama/Grimes/Clinton/Gray/Biden/McGrath voters represent at the best 1/3 of the KY electorate ?

Biden literally got more than the Democrat against McConnell in 2002 (who lost Louisville ahaha ) so I'd reread your own posts if I were you.

[brucejoel99]

Safe R -> Likely R just without the McGrath amounts of money contesting the race.

Stop. Unless you're being sarcastic, this race is Safe R, period.

Oh I don't think there's any conceivable scenario in which Rand loses, but I think Booker could do better than McGrath for sure and possibly better than Grimes in '14/Gray in '16 (40-42%) but his ceiling probably no higher than maybe 44% at best.

Booker would certainly get less than 40%.

If democrats nominate him I could see Paul getting a larger margin of victory than any other republican senatorial candidate got over the past 2 decades.

So true
Pragmatic Moderate Obama-Lunsford-Conway-Obama-Grimes-Clinton-Gray-Biden-McGrath voters don't like spooky scary socialists like Charles Booker!

Do you understand that Obama/Lunsford/Conway/Obama/Grimes/Clinton/Gray/Biden/McGrath voters represent at the best 1/3 of the KY electorate ?

Do you understand "whoosh"?

[KaiserDave]

Booker should primary Yarmuth

no

[PAK Man]

I want him to run to prove to all the anti-Amy McGrath people that, regardless of who the incumbent faces, Republicans will win senate races in Kentucky. I have so many friends who are convinced that Booker could've beaten McConnell, and then when I explain why that's laughable, they get mad at me. Booker might as well run. At least it gives Democrats a serious candidate in the extremely unlikely situation this race becomes competitive.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Rand Paul made a similar comment like Johnson he said AA males would drop out of high school if minimum wage was raised, far from truth because it's increments, not immediate, that's why Booker wants to run against Paul.

No seat is safe if Rs, which are the WC male party keep making silly comments like that

All Booker has to do is playback his comments on minimum wage

[Frenchrepublican]

Safe R -> Likely R just without the McGrath amounts of money contesting the race.

Stop. Unless you're being sarcastic, this race is Safe R, period.

Oh I don't think there's any conceivable scenario in which Rand loses, but I think Booker could do better than McGrath for sure and possibly better than Grimes in '14/Gray in '16 (40-42%) but his ceiling probably no higher than maybe 44% at best.

Booker would certainly get less than 40%.

If democrats nominate him I could see Paul getting a larger margin of victory than any other republican senatorial candidate got over the past 2 decades.

So true
Pragmatic Moderate Obama-Lunsford-Conway-Obama-Grimes-Clinton-Gray-Biden-McGrath voters don't like spooky scary socialists like Charles Booker!

Do you understand that Obama/Lunsford/Conway/Obama/Grimes/Clinton/Gray/Biden/McGrath voters represent at the best 1/3 of the KY electorate ?

Do you understand "whoosh"?

No, what does it mean ?

[Real Texan Politics]

Rand Paul is a weak candidate, it's in a very vulnerable position, Booker can bring progressives and secret republican socialists to turnout for him, I would say Tilt R, I expect democrats spending big money on this race, it's going to be too close to call

Lol no, not even close. At the very least it's likely R, but still double digits.

[brucejoel99]

Safe R -> Likely R just without the McGrath amounts of money contesting the race.

Stop. Unless you're being sarcastic, this race is Safe R, period.

Oh I don't think there's any conceivable scenario in which Rand loses, but I think Booker could do better than McGrath for sure and possibly better than Grimes in '14/Gray in '16 (40-42%) but his ceiling probably no higher than maybe 44% at best.

Booker would certainly get less than 40%.

If democrats nominate him I could see Paul getting a larger margin of victory than any other republican senatorial candidate got over the past 2 decades.

So true
Pragmatic Moderate Obama-Lunsford-Conway-Obama-Grimes-Clinton-Gray-Biden-McGrath voters don't like spooky scary socialists like Charles Booker!

Do you understand that Obama/Lunsford/Conway/Obama/Grimes/Clinton/Gray/Biden/McGrath voters represent at the best 1/3 of the KY electorate ?

Do you understand "whoosh"?

No, what does it mean ?

It represents the sound of the wind that's produced by a joke going wayyy over one's head at practically breakneck speed (metaphorically, of course), with the joke that went over your head in this instance being that "Pragmatic Moderate Obama-Lunsford-Conway-Obama-Grimes-Clinton-Gray-Biden-McGrath voters [who] don't like spooky scary socialists like Charles Booker" is just a parody of every such similar Atlas meme & not a particular demographic that KaiserDave was actually attempting to bring attention to as your earlier reply to him seemed to imply that you believed it was.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Conservative pollsters love to put ratings on races 600 days before an Election, of course this is wave insurence, as D's call it, not likely R.

Paul made a silly comment about AA dropping out of HS due to raising minimum wage and the minimum wage is in increments not immediate.

Booker is the underdog, who knows what will happen in 6oo days

All Booker has to do is replay Paul's silly comments
.also, Paul isn't Mcconnell

[MoreThanPolitics]

Inb4 Democrats pouring millions into the race and lose by a larger margin than McGrath

That being said, safe R race remains safe R

[Ron DeSantis enthusiast]

Rand Paul is a weak candidate, it's in a very vulnerable position, Booker can bring progressives and secret republican socialists to turnout for him, I would say Tilt R, I expect democrats spending big money on this race, it's going to be too close to call

Lol no, not even close. At the very least it's likely R, but still double digits.

I was being sarcastic…

[Real Texan Politics]

Rand Paul is a weak candidate, it's in a very vulnerable position, Booker can bring progressives and secret republican socialists to turnout for him, I would say Tilt R, I expect democrats spending big money on this race, it's going to be too close to call

Lol no, not even close. At the very least it's likely R, but still double digits.

I was being sarcastic…

Gotcha

[ꙮ]

It's kind of funny how everyone is agreeing this is Safe R no matter who ends up running and pretend like Atlas is mostly in disagreement with that assumption while no serious post suggests a competitive race. Mine was clearly ironic, and well, there is OC. I think we've learned the lesson now, and hope it stays this way once a close poll with 20% undecideds comes out.

Strawmanning positions that almost nobody on the site actually holds is the peak of comedy, you just don't understand.