Is this possible?

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[12th Doctor]

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Only if they drop Kerry at the convention and go with Edwards.

[Josh/Devilman88]

ONLY if you kill all the republicans in NC

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Edwards would do this

[Josh/Devilman88]

Edwards would do this

GET THIS THOROUGH YOUR HEAD!!!!!!! SOUTHERNERS DO NOT LIKE EDWARDS!!!!!!!! UNLESS YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT!!!!!

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GET THIS THOROUGH YOU HEAD!!!!!!! SOUTHERNERS DO NOT LIKE EDWARDS!!!!!!!! UNLESS YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT!!!!!

A majority of southerners are Democrats.

[JohnFKennedy]

Edwards would do this

GET THIS THOROUGH YOUR HEAD!!!!!!! SOUTHERNERS DO NOT LIKE EDWARDS!!!!!!!! UNLESS YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT!!!!!

I disagree. Edwards does consistently well among Independents.

[Josh/Devilman88]

GET THIS THOROUGH YOU HEAD!!!!!!! SOUTHERNERS DO NOT LIKE EDWARDS!!!!!!!! UNLESS YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT!!!!!

A majority of southerners are Democrats.

it is like 55 republican and 45 democrats.  And half of the democrats are democrats because they did not know the differents.

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it is like 55 republican and 45 democrats.  And half of the democrats are democrats because they did not know the differents.

To give you an idea...53% of Oklahomans are Democrats.

[MN-EDR]

But only because they like the locl Democratic Party, or because they are nonvoting leftovers from the New Deal coalition that aren't voting because the Democratic PArty is not the party of Franklin Roosevelt...or one of many other possible reasons. I'd go with them not liking the national Dem party.

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But only because they like the locl Democratic Party, or because they are nonvoting leftovers from the New Deal coalition that aren't voting because the Democratic PArty is not the party of Franklin Roosevelt...or one of many other possible reasons. I'd go with them not liking the national Dem party.

Of course they don't...but they do vote for one of their own.  If Edwards was nominated he would have won like Clinton did in 1992.

[ATFFL]

Of course they don't...but they do vote for one of their own.  If Edwards was nominated he would have won like Clinton did in 1992.

You mean Ross Perot would run again if Edwards got the nod?

Clinton had a big assist on his 2 wins, without someone siphoning votes from the Reps it is hard to get a repeat of that scenario.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Of course they don't...but they do vote for one of their own.  If Edwards was nominated he would have won like Clinton did in 1992.

You mean Ross Perot would run again if Edwards got the nod?

Clinton had a big assist on his 2 wins, without someone siphoning votes from the Reps it is hard to get a repeat of that scenario.

Thats right

[Lunar]

Of course, Josh thinks that the backlash against choosing Edwards as VP would cause Bush to do better in North Carolina

To Boss's map in the first post: I don't think so.  Bush won North Carolina by a substantial margin.  Even taking into account Demographic shifts and whatnot, there is no way that a VP choice could cause the state to shift the, what, 8% needed?

[© tweed]

You mean Ross Perot would run again if Edwards got the nod?

Clinton had a big assist on his 2 wins, without someone siphoning votes from the Reps it is hard to get a repeat of that scenario.

If Perot helped Bush or Dole at all, it was very marginal.  We have had this debate many times.

I voted for Ross in 1992

[12th Doctor]

But only because they like the locl Democratic Party, or because they are nonvoting leftovers from the New Deal coalition that aren't voting because the Democratic PArty is not the party of Franklin Roosevelt...or one of many other possible reasons. I'd go with them not liking the national Dem party.

Of course they don't...but they do vote for one of their own.  If Edwards was nominated he would have won like Clinton did in 1992.

Doubtful.  Edwards lacks the sufficient expirience.  That wasn't a big deal in 1992, but it is a huge deal today.

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Doubtful.  Edwards lacks the sufficient expirience.  That wasn't a big deal in 1992, but it is a huge deal today.

Bush had six years as Texas Governor when he was elected.  Edwards has six years as NC Senator.

[12th Doctor]

Doubtful.  Edwards lacks the sufficient expirience.  That wasn't a big deal in 1992, but it is a huge deal today.

Bush had six years as Texas Governor when he was elected.  Edwards has six years as NC Senator.

You missed the last thing I said, expirience is very important this year it was not as important in 2000 and wasn't even a crtiria for most in 1992.

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I better change my name back...thought the filters would pick it up

[WalterMitty]

if edwards is so popular, why did only win ione stinking primary (as a favorite son at that)

yes, kerry is dull, boring and has flipped flopped on every issue under the sun, but he wiped the floor with john edwards.

[Lunar]

if edwards is so popular, why did only win ione stinking primary (as a favorite son at that)

1.  Kerry won Iowa.  After that he got all of the contributions and Edwards was already at a huge disadvantage in terms of organization and support (things that especially matter in Iowa).
2. Edwards won two primaries
3. Edwards became possible during/after the primaries, not before.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Doubtful.  Edwards lacks the sufficient expirience.  That wasn't a big deal in 1992, but it is a huge deal today.

Bush had six years as Texas Governor when he was elected.  Edwards has six years as NC Senator.

Hate you tell you boss but Republican and Democrats will tell you Edwards sukced at being a senator.

[WalterMitty]

edwards is overrated.

mr. 'i can win in the south', got his hat handed to him by john kerry in virginia and tennessee.

the guy is an ambulance chaser he barely beat a weak incumbent in lauch faircloth.  

im sorry, im not drinking the john edwards kool-aid.

[ATFFL]

Edwards did not run for re-election because he knew he would be toast, not to concentrate on his Presidential run

[Sk]

I agree, Edwards is completely overrated. Lest we forget his inability to EVER attack ANYONE! Kerry walked all over him, KERRY! Imagine how he would have handled himself against the Republican onslaught (with a hilarious, smiling Jimmy Carter countenance, no doubt)! I do, however, think that Edwards would have been a more difficult person to attack considering his lean voting record (unlike Kerry's). I think Bush's best option would be, in that case, to attack Edwards' lack of experience.