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« on: August 06, 2006, 11:18:25 PM »

One day to go. This thread is dedicated to the remaining debate over this race, posting of predictions and the discussion/posting of Tuesday's results. Let the fun begin...


For the record, I want Lamont to win on Tuesday and then have Lieberman destroy him in November. My prediction:

Lamont - 54%
Lieberman - 46%
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2006, 11:20:48 PM »

I'd love to see Lieberman crush Lamont to shut up all the DailyKos people but alas:

Lamont 55
Lieberman 45
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2006, 11:21:41 PM »

I'd love to see Lieberman crush Lamont to shut up all the DailyKos people

November 7, 2006
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2006, 11:25:59 PM »

I'd love to see Lieberman crush Lamont to shut up all the DailyKos people

November 7, 2006

I know, but I'd rather spare myself 3 months of agony until then.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2006, 11:28:11 PM »

I'm not sure who's going to win the primary, but regardless:

57 - Lieberman
43 - Lamont

Undecideds swing to Lieberman at the last minute.

In any case, Lieberman will deliver his whipping in November.
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2006, 11:34:19 PM »

Lamont: 53-47

Joe either drops his independent bid, or loses in November by three or four points.
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2006, 11:39:06 PM »

Lamont 56-44

Liebermans wins by a small amrgin in November, however if the Primary margin is larger than this the General leans Lamont if Lieberman decides to run as an Independent, and if Lieberman decides to drop the Independent bid (which is a possibility if Lamont wins the Primary by 15, which is unlikely but not out of the question) than lamont wins the General going away.
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2006, 11:41:08 PM »


 I'll bite. Lamont 56, Lieberman 44.

 
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2006, 11:42:12 PM »

Lamont - 55
Liebmeran - 45
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2006, 11:50:49 PM »

52-48 in favor of Lamont
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2006, 11:51:53 PM »

And this needs to be rubbed in the face of all Lieberman supporters.
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2006, 11:55:47 PM »

Lamont-60
Lieberman-39

Liberman either drops the independant bid or loses the support of most of the Democratic establishment and gets destroyed by Lamont in November.
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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2006, 11:56:01 PM »

Lamont - 51
Lieberman - 49
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2006, 12:02:50 AM »

And this needs to be rubbed in the face of all Lieberman supporters.

When it is hitting back, I don't care.
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2006, 12:09:10 AM »
« Edited: August 07, 2006, 12:10:44 AM by Erc »

Lamont, unfortunately, will likely win the primary by some very slim margin.

Just for the purpose of historical comparison, has there ever been a previous VP nominee who was so rejected by their own party?

There aren't too many comparisons to be made, really...

Kemp and Edwards have not yet re-entered electoral politics after their defeats...

Bentsen, like Lieberman, ran for re-election at home concurrently with their VP run [so it's not without precedent]--but did not run for re-election again after being appointed Treasury Secretary.

Ferraro has only had a couple unsuccessful Senate primary bids since her loss in '84...

Bob Dole was re-elected to the Senate 3 times after his loss in '76.

Tom Eagleton, despite the '72 fallout, was returned twice more to the Senate.

Sargent Shriver never had an electoral career after '72 other than an abortive run at the Presidency in '76.

Ed Muskie was returned twice more to the Senate before becoming Secretary of State.

Bill Miller appeared in a commerical for American Express.

Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. did not seek further elective office after 1960 (other than that surprise NH primary win in '64)

Estes Kefauver is the closest I can find so far...faced a very stiff primary challenge in 1960 (from the more conservative side of the Democratic party), but barely won and then won the general handily (despite a Bob Taft-like showing in the polls).

John Sparkman was returned to the Senate four times.

Earl Warren was re-elected Governor of California (note: first governor we've seen here so far) in 1950, before being appointed to the Supreme Court.

John Bricker (at the time Governor of Ohio) was elected to the Senate twice after his defeat in '44, until a surprise upset in '58 by Democrat Stephen Young.

Charles McNary was re-elected to the Senate once before his death in '44.

Frank Knox did not continue in electoral politics after '36 (instead serving as Roosevelt's Secretary of the Navy)

Joseph Robinson was elected twice more to the Senate after his death.

Charles Bryan was defeated in his re-election bid to the Governorship of Nebraska in 1926, but returned again in 1930 and 1932 .

We all know how horribly FDR's career fared after 1920. Wink

And so forth...


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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2006, 01:20:05 AM »

I´d say:

Lamont: ~54%
Lieberman: ~46%
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2006, 01:20:29 AM »

And this needs to be rubbed in the face of all Lieberman supporters.

That's a pretty accurate commercial.
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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2006, 01:47:45 AM »

And this needs to be rubbed in the face of all Lieberman supporters.

That's a pretty accurate commercial.

Except for the part about Lamont being a Republican 80% of the time, I agree.  Although it is quite a bizarre ad.
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2006, 01:57:35 AM »


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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2006, 04:00:50 AM »

Just for the purpose of historical comparison, has there ever been a previous VP nominee who was so rejected by their own party?

All that, yet no mention of Mondale?

Lamont 58%
Lieberman 42%
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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2006, 06:07:41 AM »

I'd be suprised (but not shocked) if Lamont loses now; the margin is the interesting thing though. Obviously the bigger it is, the smaller the chance of Lieberman running as an Indie.

Lamont could win big or it could be very close.

Not that I really care either way; what could be interesting is the geography of the result.
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2006, 07:09:21 AM »

it pains me to make this prediction (and i hope im wrong)

lamont 57
lieberman 43

lieberman drops his independent bid.  likely gets a cabinet position from bush sometime this year.
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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2006, 07:24:14 AM »

The new Q poll has Lamont's lead shrinking... but, I still think he will beat Joementum

Lamont       54
Joementum 45

PS Turnout will be low
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2006, 09:20:13 AM »

Lamont 52%
Lieberman 47%
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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2006, 12:11:41 PM »


Lamont 53%
Lieberman 46%
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