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GP270watch
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« on: March 08, 2021, 10:29:14 AM »

He should be found guilty but we know how that goes.
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2021, 12:54:39 PM »

 The genuine guilt and trauma expressed by nearly all the witnesses so far has been very striking. If the jury can not put that into appropriate context from the people who were actually there than we have a broken judicial system.
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2021, 03:30:15 PM »

The genuine guilt and trauma expressed by nearly all the witnesses so far has been very striking. If the jury can not put that into appropriate context from the people who were actually there than we have a broken judicial system.

That's something I hear a lot that makes zero sense to me. It wouldn't be broken. It'd be working as intended. Beyond a Reasonable Doubt is a very high standard to reach and juries are forces of darkness; you never know what minute details that the prosecution thought were irrelevant they will use to blow up what looks like a slam dunk case.



The are plenty of defendants of color or poor defendants who don't get the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt, some have even been executed when there was doubt and even changed witness testimony. So the standard doesn't apply to everyone.
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2021, 12:20:33 PM »

Appears the police are ready to throw him under the bus testifying he had no reason to kneel on him for that long.

Because he didn't!
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2021, 06:06:50 PM »

Some breaking news, Chauvin has invoked his 5th amendment right of self-incrimination and will not testify at the trial.

 Smart for him because he could not possibly justify or explain his actions.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2021, 02:44:24 PM »

I hope he's guilty on all counts and that they sentence him to the max.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2021, 04:07:31 PM »

 Guilty on all counts. Now sentence him to the max!
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2021, 10:34:19 AM »

Tucker had a pretty normal one last night:



He used to be just annoying when he was on Crossfire, but he's progressed into become totally insane. That aside, these sort of people don't want to hear from the police when they aren't saying what they want to hear. The response that I'm seeing from conservatives is that they are angry about the verdict but too cowardly to admit that.

Seriously WTF was that?
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2021, 01:12:07 PM »

Does anybody know what's happening with Derek Chauvin's tax charges?
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2021, 11:26:03 AM »

 Make an example of him, he deserves the max for his callous brutality.
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2021, 12:07:29 AM »
« Edited: May 03, 2021, 10:58:39 AM by GP270watch »

 Our justice system in part is in place to protect the public, so judges pass harsh sentences based on the shocking or brutal nature of a crime all the time. Chauvin's brutal callousness certainly meets the requirement to justify this sentiment.
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2021, 03:53:16 PM »

He's still potentially facing Federal prosecution for Civil Rights violations and tax evasion charges.
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2021, 04:02:05 PM »

30 years would have been preferrable, but I'd be ok with this as long as he actually has to sit in the full sentence.

He probably won't but it's still, as BRTD said, the longest sentence ever for a cop acting on the job.

 That's pretty pathetic when you think about all the corrupt cops who have lived.
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2021, 04:12:53 PM »
« Edited: June 25, 2021, 04:19:16 PM by GP270watch »

30 years would have been preferrable, but I'd be ok with this as long as he actually has to sit in the full sentence.

He probably won't but it's still, as BRTD said, the longest sentence ever for a cop acting on the job.

 That's pretty pathetic when you think about all the corrupt cops who have lived.
"On duty" is the clear distinction here. Most sentences for police corruption involve technically off-duty behavior.

But the real corruption happens on duty and because they have a uniform. When you think of the police who have run violent drug rings, framed people with weapons and drugs charges, beat and sexually assaulted people and killed unarmed civilians. It shows how police misconduct is treated with a shrug.

Also I do not believe the Chauvin fact is true. Justin Volpe is serving a 30-year sentence after pleading guilty to sodomizing Abner Louima with a stick in the bathroom of the 70th precinct station house in 1997.
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