Prince Philip

[South Dakota Democrat]

Just thought someone should start a thread on Prince Philip for news, discussion, etc. about his recent health struggles.

For those unaware, he was hospitalized a few days ago due to an infection, and then was recently transferred to another hospital to evaluate a pre-existing heart condition.  He is 99 years old.

Hope he's alright/pulls through.

[CumbrianLefty]

Rumours last month that his end was imminent.

[Lechasseur]

Hope he's alright/pulls through.

[South Dakota Democrat]

https://okmagazine.com/p/prince-harry-advised-fly-home-goodbye-prince-philip/

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

https://okmagazine.com/p/prince-harry-advised-fly-home-goodbye-prince-philip/

Sounds like the royal business concern is hyping up Philip's ill health to pressure Harry and Meghan to not release the interview they did with Oprah.

[njwes]

https://okmagazine.com/p/prince-harry-advised-fly-home-goodbye-prince-philip/

Sounds like the royal business concern is hyping up Philip's ill health to pressure Harry and Meghan to not release the interview they did with Oprah.

I mean, it'll get released regardless. And hopefully most British people with an interest in the royals find Harry and Meghan embarrassing and slightly pathetic at this point anyway.

[CumbrianLefty]

Yes, the palace establishment and their media courtiers have done a good job on her in particular.

(I assume that is what you meant?)

[beesley]

https://okmagazine.com/p/prince-harry-advised-fly-home-goodbye-prince-philip/

Sounds like the royal business concern is hyping up Philip's ill health to pressure Harry and Meghan to not release the interview they did with Oprah.

I mean, it'll get released regardless. And hopefully most British people with an interest in the royals find Harry and Meghan embarrassing and slightly pathetic at this point anyway.

We find them just tedious, to be honest.

[CumbrianLefty]

Yes, but no more so than the rest of the royals really.

I mean, what *does* cause so many gammons to hyperventilate at the mere sight of Ms Markle?

Any ideas??

[Calthrina950]

https://okmagazine.com/p/prince-harry-advised-fly-home-goodbye-prince-philip/

Sounds like the royal business concern is hyping up Philip's ill health to pressure Harry and Meghan to not release the interview they did with Oprah.

I mean, it'll get released regardless. And hopefully most British people with an interest in the royals find Harry and Meghan embarrassing and slightly pathetic at this point anyway.

I saw an advertisement for Oprah's interview with the couple a few days ago, while I was watching 60 Minutes. That woman certainly is leading the Prince by the collar, and with a golden collar at that. I genuinely wonder how long it will be before that marriage ends in divorce.

[Del Tachi]

99 is a good, long life.

It is unfortunate that it was squandered on someone as uninteresting and chauvinistic as Prince Phillip 

[njwes]

Yes, but no more so than the rest of the royals really.

I mean, what *does* cause so many gammons to hyperventilate at the mere sight of Ms Markle?

Any ideas??

The fact that she's literally just a run-of-the-mill LA basic b*tch. I know that you desperately want to believe it's because she's half-black, but it's not--and it's actually funny how many people on the left who would normally claim to despise the royals feel the desperate need to defend her because of this.

[jaymichaud]

I hope he can make it to 100.

[Calthrina950]

Yes, but no more so than the rest of the royals really.

I mean, what *does* cause so many gammons to hyperventilate at the mere sight of Ms Markle?

Any ideas??

The fact that she's literally just a run-of-the-mill LA basic b*tch. I know that you desperately want to believe it's because she's half-black, but it's not--and it's actually funny how many people on the left who would normally claim to despise the royals feel the desperate need to defend her because of this.

Now, I wouldn't be surprised if Markle's racial background had something to do in explaining the discomfort of the British Royal Family (not the public, mind you), with her. However, I think their greatest objection to her is what you just said: that she is a trashy Hollywood celebrity. Markle was almost entirely unknown before her relationship with Prince Harry. I personally had never heard of her before that, and the only role of note which she had was a insignificant role on the insignificant and generic television series Suits.

Markle's wedding to the Prince was a further demonstration of this. I also think that the hostility with her has to do with the fact that she's American. The Royal Family obviously still carries the memory of what transpired between Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson more than eighty years ago, and view Markle as a modern-day Simpson.

[EastAnglianLefty]

Just about every royal spouse is entirely unknown to the general public prior to entering a relationship with a royal. Why would that matter?

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Yes, but no more so than the rest of the royals really.

I mean, what *does* cause so many gammons to hyperventilate at the mere sight of Ms Markle?

Any ideas??

They think she's Wallis Simpson?

[CumbrianLefty]

Come to think of it, anti-Americanism almost certainly plays a part as well.

[Conservatopia]

Anti-Americanism plays a way bigger role than her skin tone.  Surprisingly few normal people even realise she has black ancestry.

It's more the "Hollywood trash" vibe that people get from her and the fact that she seems to want the perks of royalty without the hard work that pisses people off.

What seems to annoy a lot of people too is that Harry has been transformed from a hard-partying fun guy to a po-faced wokester.

Disclaimer: I'm not a big fan of The Firm but I loathe Meghan.

[Cassius]

Anti-Americanism plays a way bigger role than her skin tone.  Surprisingly few normal people even realise she has black ancestry.

It's more the "Hollywood trash" vibe that people get from her and the fact that she seems to want the perks of royalty without the hard work that pisses people off.

What seems to annoy a lot of people too is that Harry has been transformed from a hard-partying fun guy to a po-faced wokester.

Disclaimer: I'm not a big fan of The Firm but I loathe Meghan.

The way this whole thing was going to end was so obvious that the play King Charles III essentially predicted it in advance (Harry entering a relationship with a black commoner and quitting the royal family).

I’ve always found the Harry-Edward VIII comparison rather apposite, in that they both follow the elite fads of their time (Edward VIII being a fascist-sympathizer and Harry a right-on pillock).

[Mike88]

Anti-Americanism plays a way bigger role than her skin tone.  Surprisingly few normal people even realise she has black ancestry.

It's more the "Hollywood trash" vibe that people get from her and the fact that she seems to want the perks of royalty without the hard work that pisses people off.

What seems to annoy a lot of people too is that Harry has been transformed from a hard-partying fun guy to a po-faced wokester.

Disclaimer: I'm not a big fan of The Firm but I loathe Meghan.

The way this whole thing was going to end was so obvious that the play King Charles III essentially predicted it in advance (Harry entering a relationship with a black commoner and quitting the royal family).

I’ve always found the Harry-Edward VIII comparison rather apposite, in that they both follow the elite fads of their time (Edward VIII being a fascist-sympathizer and Harry a right-on pillock).

It that play, wasn't she also a republicanist? Anyway, many of the stuff the ultimately happened in the Royal Family was a bit predictable. Spitting Image even predicted Harry's "nazi thing" in the 80's when a baby Harry was wearing a SS helmet.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Anti-Americanism plays a way bigger role than her skin tone.  Surprisingly few normal people even realise she has black ancestry.

It's more the "Hollywood trash" vibe that people get from her and the fact that she seems to want the perks of royalty without the hard work that pisses people off.

What seems to annoy a lot of people too is that Harry has been transformed from a hard-partying fun guy to a po-faced wokester.

Disclaimer: I'm not a big fan of The Firm but I loathe Meghan.

My mother--a casual royal-watcher for the sake of the aesthetics and pageantry even though she has substantially the same politics as me--has gone from liking to strongly disliking Harry and Meghan since they married, mostly because of the "perks without hard work" impression that you mention. She sees them as ludicrously privileged people who've lost interest in the (real or alleged) focus on service to their country that (really or allegedly) coexists with that privilege for other members of the family.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I mean the main issue is plainly that the tabloids have run a constant campaign against her for several years* and that the couple have at times reacted to this, and to whatever the exact hellish family Drama currently unfolding in the House of Windsor happens to be, in a way that is quite easily portrayed as being, well, let us say out of touch. Does it matter though? I don't believe that they are running for public office.

_{*And speculation as to the causes of this should be treated as an entirely separate question.}

[afleitch]

I mean the main issue is plainly that the tabloids have run a constant campaign against her for several years* and that the couple have at times reacted to this, and to whatever the exact hellish family Drama currently unfolding in the House of Windsor happens to be, in a way that is quite easily portrayed as being, well, let us say out of touch. Does it matter though? I don't believe that they are running for public office.

_{*And speculation as to the causes of this should be treated as an entirely separate question.}

The thing is, Harry and Meghan are clearly 'normal' in the same way that William and Catherine are stilted and grandstanding.

My favourite ever observation about them was from a friend of mine who said 'they dress their weans like they died in the Blitz.'

But it's clear the Palace and their eyes in the press want that to be seen as 'normal' and classy and dignified and people seem to have fallen for that.

[CumbrianLefty]

Yes, but no more so than the rest of the royals really.

I mean, what *does* cause so many gammons to hyperventilate at the mere sight of Ms Markle?

Any ideas??

The fact that she's literally just a run-of-the-mill LA basic b*tch. I know that you desperately want to believe it's because she's half-black, but it's not--and it's actually funny how many people on the left who would normally claim to despise the royals feel the desperate need to defend her because of this.

Genuine lol at the "desperation" claims - I barely give a tinkers cuss about the whole Windsors soap opera. In contrast to the boomer gammons in a constant STATE OF RAGE about this and all the other confected culture war stuff that has utterly rotted their collective brains.

[The Dowager Mod]

I like how most of you use a thread about Phillip to take an opportunity to take a piss on Meghan.