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brucejoel99
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« on: February 26, 2021, 11:42:28 PM »


He absolutely did! He got fifth place in New Hampshire. There wasn't a single person on this site who thought he had a serious chance of winning in that week between New Hampshire and Nevada, after which he pulled off the greatest comeback in modern American political history.

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brucejoel99
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2021, 11:41:23 AM »
« Edited: March 02, 2021, 12:36:11 PM by brucejoel99 »

"Biden barely won?", Is this the so called liberal media in action?

Funny you should say that, because at least in terms of campaign books such as this one, Jonathan Allen & Amie Parnes became a total & complete joke after their Hillary 2016 autopsy book, Shattered, resulted in a litany of staffers coming out to categorically deny the allegations which were made in it, something that doesn't usually happen - at least, as intensely as it did after that book - to campaign books such as these, so I'd recommend taking anything they put down in a book such as this with a grain of salt, yeah.

Not to mention, the book - about Biden's win - is literally titled "Lucky," & the few excerpts about Biden which we've gotten thus far seem to paint him as nothing but a bumbling fool who has zero awareness, so it's not exactly all that hard to read between the lines here.
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brucejoel99
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2021, 11:22:46 AM »

Remember that in the primary, Biden was saved by the Democratic establishment rushing to stack the deck in his favor in late February/early March.

Lol he was going to win SC with or without an endorsement. That win would have propelled him to victory regardless because the majority of Democrats did not think that Bernie was electable

That was also an effect of Biden being relentlessly promoted by the mainstream media after SC. If Buttigieg & Klobuchar had remained in the race until on or after Super Tuesday, Biden would likely not have taken the lead he actually did, and the narrative following that might have been Sanders in the driver's seat instead of Biden.

Candidates dropping out because they didn't see themselves having a shot in the coming states does not equate to "the establishment" stacking the deck for Biden. Bernie couldn't win a one on one race. That's not "the establishment's" fault.

Pete was literally on Face the Nation or Meet the Press that Sunday morning talking about his plans moving forward. Dropping out a few hours later after conversations with Carter and Obama was not among those plans. Both Pete and Amy had a full slate of campaign stops scheduled for that week. There was absolutely no reason, at that point, to drop out before Super Tuesday. None.

Now, the thing is I don't see that as a negative. It's just political maneuvering.

Honestly what I'm most interested in. That was coordinated by someone or someone working for someone else or some group. Buttigieg et al dropping out while Warren stayed in. There's a very clear play going on there. May not come out in this book but it will someday. (Apparently, there's 3 more of these books in process.)

Source?
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brucejoel99
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2021, 12:39:24 PM »

Remember that in the primary, Biden was saved by the Democratic establishment rushing to stack the deck in his favor in late February/early March.

Lol he was going to win SC with or without an endorsement. That win would have propelled him to victory regardless because the majority of Democrats did not think that Bernie was electable

That was also an effect of Biden being relentlessly promoted by the mainstream media after SC. If Buttigieg & Klobuchar had remained in the race until on or after Super Tuesday, Biden would likely not have taken the lead he actually did, and the narrative following that might have been Sanders in the driver's seat instead of Biden.

Candidates dropping out because they didn't see themselves having a shot in the coming states does not equate to "the establishment" stacking the deck for Biden. Bernie couldn't win a one on one race. That's not "the establishment's" fault.

Pete was literally on Face the Nation or Meet the Press that Sunday morning talking about his plans moving forward. Dropping out a few hours later after conversations with Carter and Obama was not among those plans. Both Pete and Amy had a full slate of campaign stops scheduled for that week. There was absolutely no reason, at that point, to drop out before Super Tuesday. None.

Now, the thing is I don't see that as a negative. It's just political maneuvering.

Honestly what I'm most interested in. That was coordinated by someone or someone working for someone else or some group. Buttigieg et al dropping out while Warren stayed in. There's a very clear play going on there. May not come out in this book but it will someday. (Apparently, there's 3 more of these books in process.)

Source?

One of the book's reviews I read yesterday. Wasn't in the Hill or WaPo piece. Might be Politico's article. Says they'll come out rest of this year going into 2022.

Do you have a source about three more books coming out

The WaPo review is actually the one which says that "several competing works [are] scheduled later this year and into 2022," but have yet to find anything on any site's review concerning an explicit number of 3 books.
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brucejoel99
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2021, 11:46:19 PM »

Got around to reading it today. One factoid I found interesting is that Biden's team knew that Texas wasn't going to happen for president or Senate. I seem to remember Dave Wasserman being very bullish on Democrats' chances in Texas across the board.
What exactly did it say about Texas?

Despite some close public polls and all the fuss over massive early voting turnout, O'Malley Dillon knew that Biden wasn't likely to win there and he was better off focusing on the Rust Belt trio + Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina. They also knew that Hegar was going to lose, and it wasn't going to be close. But the campaign still sent Kamala to Houston, Fort Worth and McAllen just to humor people who thought Blue Texas might happen.

Jen O'Malley Dillon is an Atlas user, confirmed. I have no proof but deliberately trolling us bloomers is proof enough.
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2021, 04:43:44 PM »

-Obama really liked Beto O'Rouke and preferred he had won the nomination

Not really that, he was just "enamored" with O'Rourke at first but it was moreso just being intrigued by what he saw as opposed to actually being in his corner & wanting to see him go all the way. After Beto bottomed out, he then went through a Kamala phase & then put on that "ready for Warren (if need be)" shtick before coming home to Biden after SC.


-The Biden campaign was incredibly incompetent for most of 2019

Didn't need a book to tell us that Tongue


-Harris was gunning for VP since the start.  Only after the whole busing comment at the first debate did she think she had a chance.

Nah, the only one who was really gunning for VP from the start was Klobuchar. The book even explicitly stated that Kamala only made the busing comment in the first place because she'd calculated that she was running to actually win the presidential nomination, not to just wind-up as VP.


-The Buttigieg campaign were the ones who demanded CNN nix the Seltezer Iowa poll the Saturday before the caucus. They called CNN and said they would sue if released. The poll had them at 3rd and it would hurt them.

I think you're confusing that story with the one of Biden's team (Anita Dunn, specifically) threatening legal action against the IA Democratic Party if they released any partial results on caucus night when that particular meltdown was happening. Buttigieg's team (Lis Smith, specifically) wasn't threatening to sue CNN if they still put the Selzer poll out, just making it very clear that they would publicly question the veracity/validity of the poll due to the information that they had about the potential compromising thereof.
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