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« Reply #275 on: May 04, 2021, 03:29:19 PM »

Isn't Puente de Vallecas among the safest districts in Madrid for the left?

Indeed, in fact the right is only taking 36% of the vote with 85% of the district in.

Problem is the PSOE and MM are taking almost the same % each, which allows a plurality win for the PP.
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« Reply #276 on: May 04, 2021, 03:31:17 PM »

Isn't Puente de Vallecas among the safest districts in Madrid for the left?

Indeed, in fact the right is only taking 36% of the vote with 85% of the district in.

Problem is the PSOE and MM are taking almost the same % each, which allows a plurality win for the PP.
Feeling sorry for Ángel Gabilondo. He never stood a chance.
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« Reply #277 on: May 04, 2021, 03:38:14 PM »

Isn't Puente de Vallecas among the safest districts in Madrid for the left?

Indeed, in fact the right is only taking 36% of the vote with 85% of the district in.

Problem is the PSOE and MM are taking almost the same % each, which allows a plurality win for the PP.
Feeling sorry for Ángel Gabilondo. He never stood a chance.

Ángel Gabilondo is an excellent person and he 's not responsible for this catastrophe.The PSOE campaign was directed by Iván Redondo et alii from La Moncloa

 
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« Reply #278 on: May 04, 2021, 03:40:00 PM »

I heard rhe PP is leading in Puente de Vallecas. 26% plurality or so 

Hope this doesn't hold, I'd have to eat crow if it does 😬

I said earlier Michavila was exaggerating the PP landslide
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« Reply #279 on: May 04, 2021, 03:40:16 PM »

Isn't Puente de Vallecas among the safest districts in Madrid for the left?

Indeed, in fact the right is only taking 36% of the vote with 85% of the district in.

Problem is the PSOE and MM are taking almost the same % each, which allows a plurality win for the PP.
Feeling sorry for Ángel Gabilondo. He never stood a chance.

Ángel Gabilondo is an excellent person and he 's not responsible for this catastrophe.The PSOE campaign was directed by Iván Redondo et alii from La Moncloa

 
Even if he was directing the campaign, I wouldn't blame him for this, given it was pretty much out of his control. Ayuso was always in the drivers seat, and the battlefield was tilted decisively in her favor.
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« Reply #280 on: May 04, 2021, 03:54:17 PM »

The PSOE is going to fall to third place anytime now. Más Madrid is less than 3000 votes away, and most of the vote that remains comes from the city of Madrid, MM’s stronghold. Truly disastrous results for the socialists.
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« Reply #281 on: May 04, 2021, 04:00:07 PM »
« Edited: May 04, 2021, 04:08:42 PM by Oryxslayer »

We have now reached the point where talk of a PP majority isn't out of the question, 65 of the necessary 69. Even if they miss it, a PP minority is guaranteed, as well as Ayuso's advancement upwards.
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« Reply #282 on: May 04, 2021, 04:07:49 PM »

The PSOE is going to fall to third place anytime now. Más Madrid is less than 3000 votes away, and most of the vote that remains comes from the city of Madrid, MM’s stronghold. Truly disastrous results for the socialists.

But more importantly, great results for Mas Madrid, a mature sensible party that isn't a criminal protection site or full of unhinged people.

But still...VENEZUELA!
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« Reply #283 on: May 04, 2021, 04:10:16 PM »
« Edited: May 04, 2021, 04:19:11 PM by Velasco »

It's happening

Más Madrid overtakes PSOE by a hair with 95% of the votes counted

Mónica García will be the leader of the opposition
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« Reply #284 on: May 04, 2021, 04:10:58 PM »

96% in

PP: 44.6% - 65
MM: 16.99% - 24
PSOE: 16.94% - 24
VOX: 9.1% - 13
UP: 7.2% - 10
Cs: 3.6% - F

Right: 57.3%
Left: 41.1%
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« Reply #285 on: May 04, 2021, 04:13:43 PM »

Not a very mentioned statistic, but Ayuso is on track to break Esperanza Aguirre’s raw vote total record of 1,592,162 ballots, which dates back to the 2007 regional election.
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« Reply #286 on: May 04, 2021, 04:14:26 PM »

Bittersweet sensations, personally. Mónica García and Iñigo Errejón performed a great campaign,  but Madrid is overwhelmingly rightwing
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« Reply #287 on: May 04, 2021, 04:20:12 PM »

PP, Vox and UP overperformed and PSOE underperformed, let's see if PSOE abstain too Ayuso make a government without Vox, but I doubt it.
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« Reply #288 on: May 04, 2021, 04:23:01 PM »

PP, Vox and UP overperformed and PSOE underperformed, let's see if PSOE abstain too Ayuso make a government without Vox, but I doubt it.

PP can govern in its own if Vox abstains in a second Investiture vote,  because the leftwing parties amount less seats. I'd say that's the most likely outcome

Also, Ayuso stated she prefers Vox to govern through the PSOE's abstention
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« Reply #289 on: May 04, 2021, 04:25:34 PM »

PP, Vox and UP overperformed and PSOE underperformed, let's see if PSOE abstain too Ayuso make a government without Vox, but I doubt it.

if VOX abstains then Ayuso has her minority cause PP > the combined left, and they will since the alternative for VOX is unimaginable.
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« Reply #290 on: May 04, 2021, 04:26:32 PM »

Pablo Iglesias announces he’s retiring from politics.
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« Reply #291 on: May 04, 2021, 04:29:33 PM »
« Edited: May 04, 2021, 04:34:00 PM by Velasco »


This is historic

It's time for Yolanda Díaz

10th anniversary of the 15M within 11 days. Podemos comes from there
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« Reply #292 on: May 04, 2021, 04:30:31 PM »


Expected(?). He clearly wanted out which is why he stepped down, and he probably only stepped down to Madrid rather than retire to preserve Madrid Podemos.
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« Reply #293 on: May 04, 2021, 04:31:48 PM »


It was obvious, this race wasn't winnable for the left, he was just looking for an excuse/reason
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« Reply #294 on: May 04, 2021, 04:38:13 PM »


It was obvious, this race wasn't winnable for the left, he was just looking for an excuse/reason

Pablo Iglesias was suffering an evident fatigue. He was preparing his definitive retirement, although it was expected to be a gradual process. This defeat is too hard, but at least the Iglesias intervention saved the UP parliamentary status in Madrid
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« Reply #295 on: May 04, 2021, 04:51:58 PM »


It was obvious, this race wasn't winnable for the left, he was just looking for an excuse/reason

Pablo Iglesias was suffering an evident fatigue. He was preparing his definitive retirement, although it was expected to be a gradual process. This defeat is too hard, but at least the Iglesias intervention saved the UP parliamentary status in Madrid
Yup, Podemos needs new blood, they hit their peak in 2016, he give all what he can to the party
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« Reply #296 on: May 04, 2021, 04:53:13 PM »

Santiago Abascal announced Vox will support Ayuso without joining the government
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« Reply #297 on: May 04, 2021, 05:07:32 PM »

99.8% in

PP 65 (44.72%)
MM 24 (16.97%)
PSOE 24 (16.85%)
Vox 13 (9.13%)
UP 10 (7.21%)

Cs 0 (3.57%)

Madrid (municipality)

PP 45.32%
MM 17.89%
PSOE 16.09%
Vox 8.09%
UP 7.47%
Cs 3.7%

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« Reply #298 on: May 04, 2021, 05:09:49 PM »

Well it's over then. Massive landslide for beautiful Ayuso, MM narrowly beats PSOE for 2nd, and Iglesias, the man that has shaped Spanish politics over the past 7 years, is now gone.

Ironically other than killing off what remained of Cs (for whom 3.7% actually beats expectations even if it is not enough to survive) I don't expect many immediate changes (perhaps a small PP increase)
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« Reply #299 on: May 04, 2021, 05:34:56 PM »

So who realistically, besides Diaz, can think about becoming new Podemos secretary?
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