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« on: February 16, 2021, 09:10:01 PM »

I didn't know where to put this..

Below is a blank map with EV totals on it. Guess who won and who won the new states that have been draw. DC has 3 EV



Also, this is 2020 numbers.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2021, 11:58:29 PM »

My guesses for each state in terms of certainty


Safe Biden: West Coast Districts (14+14+23), Greater Chicago (17), the NoVA/MD/DE district (14), NJ/NYC (31), South NJ and PA (12), Connecticut and Massachusetts (12+7), Arizona/IE district (24), Weird Vermonty thing and south NH and ME (4+4), DC (3) (183 EV)
Lean Biden: the NV/East CA district (11), the Mississippi River district (6), Greater New Mexico (5), Northern Georgia (14) (36 EV)
Tilt Biden: MN (8.), South Florida (19), Erie area (9), Big Michigan (19) (55 EV)

Tilt Trump: Big Colorado (14), East TX (24), Big Wisconsin (12), United Virginia (12) (62 EV)
Lean Trump: Non Coastal WA and OR with ID (7), ME-02 and northern NH (4), Upstate NY (10), Coastal Carolinas (18) (39EV)
Safe Trump: KS/NE/SD/ND/OK/MO/IA/AR/LA/TN/KY/Downstate IL/IN/Southern Ohio/PA/West TX/Gulf Florida/South GA/AK/MT (163EV)



Basically a narrow Biden victory
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2021, 10:17:52 PM »

any other guesses? I figured this would have more feedback  Confused
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2021, 10:52:44 PM »

My guesses for each state in terms of certainty


Safe Biden: West Coast Districts (14+14+23), Greater Chicago (17), the NoVA/MD/DE district (14), NJ/NYC (31), South NJ and PA (12), Connecticut and Massachusetts (12+7), Arizona/IE district (24), Weird Vermonty thing and south NH and ME (4+4), DC (3) (183 EV)
Lean Biden: the NV/East CA district (11), the Mississippi River district (6), Greater New Mexico (5), Northern Georgia (14) (36 EV)
Tilt Biden: MN (8.), South Florida (19), Erie area (9), Big Michigan (19) (55 EV)

Tilt Trump: Big Colorado (14), East TX (24), Big Wisconsin (12), United Virginia (12) (62 EV)
Lean Trump: Non Coastal WA and OR with ID (7), ME-02 and northern NH (4), Upstate NY (10), Coastal Carolinas (18) (39EV)
Safe Trump: KS/NE/SD/ND/OK/MO/IA/AR/LA/TN/KY/Downstate IL/IN/Southern Ohio/PA/West TX/Gulf Florida/South GA/AK/MT (163EV)



Basically a narrow Biden victory

You have 7 states wrong Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2021, 03:28:00 PM »

My guesses for each state in terms of certainty


Safe Biden: West Coast Districts (14+14+23), Greater Chicago (17), the NoVA/MD/DE district (14), NJ/NYC (31), South NJ and PA (12), Connecticut and Massachusetts (12+7), Arizona/IE district (24), Weird Vermonty thing and south NH and ME (4+4), DC (3) (183 EV)
Lean Biden: the NV/East CA district (11), the Mississippi River district (6), Greater New Mexico (5), Northern Georgia (14) (36 EV)
Tilt Biden: MN (8.), South Florida (19), Erie area (9), Big Michigan (19) (55 EV)

Tilt Trump: Big Colorado (14), East TX (24), Big Wisconsin (12), United Virginia (12) (62 EV)
Lean Trump: Non Coastal WA and OR with ID (7), ME-02 and northern NH (4), Upstate NY (10), Coastal Carolinas (18) (39EV)
Safe Trump: KS/NE/SD/ND/OK/MO/IA/AR/LA/TN/KY/Downstate IL/IN/Southern Ohio/PA/West TX/Gulf Florida/South GA/AK/MT (163EV)



Basically a narrow Biden victory

You have 7 states wrong Smiley


I’ll try to figure out what he got wrong. I assume NV is red because Clark got removed from it. Maybe also the Mississippi River state. Potentially Michigan too. That’s three.

Then also Colorado I think is blue. Now I’m kinda stuck. I’ll guess that east Texas is blue, south Florida is red, and Carolina is blue.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2021, 04:04:00 PM »

My guesses for each state in terms of certainty


Safe Biden: West Coast Districts (14+14+23), Greater Chicago (17), the NoVA/MD/DE district (14), NJ/NYC (31), South NJ and PA (12), Connecticut and Massachusetts (12+7), Arizona/IE district (24), Weird Vermonty thing and south NH and ME (4+4), DC (3) (183 EV)
Lean Biden: the NV/East CA district (11), the Mississippi River district (6), Greater New Mexico (5), Northern Georgia (14) (36 EV)
Tilt Biden: MN (8.), South Florida (19), Erie area (9), Big Michigan (19) (55 EV)

Tilt Trump: Big Colorado (14), East TX (24), Big Wisconsin (12), United Virginia (12) (62 EV)
Lean Trump: Non Coastal WA and OR with ID (7), ME-02 and northern NH (4), Upstate NY (10), Coastal Carolinas (18) (39EV)
Safe Trump: KS/NE/SD/ND/OK/MO/IA/AR/LA/TN/KY/Downstate IL/IN/Southern Ohio/PA/West TX/Gulf Florida/South GA/AK/MT (163EV)



Basically a narrow Biden victory

You have 7 states wrong Smiley


Oh wow ok. Are Hennepin and Ramsey in WI or MN?
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2021, 06:49:57 PM »



am I closer than the previous guess was? Carolina might have also voted Biden.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2021, 07:31:37 PM »
« Edited: February 18, 2021, 07:34:39 PM by Skill and Chance »

The East Carolina state could plausibly be Dem.

Biden's CO margin was so high and CO so much more populous than the surrounding areas that I could also see the "Greater Colorado" state voting narrowly for Biden.

With all of the Dem NOVA counties in the "Greater Maryland" state, the "Greater Virginia" state is nearly safe GOP. It might even vote R in 2020 without adding the bulk of WV?

Upstate NY appears to be missing Buffalo and could plausibly vote GOP if Albany is in one of the alternative New England states and it goes deep enough into rural PA?

However, that would mean the Cleveland-Erie-Buffalo lakeshore state could be narrowly Dem?

I'm confident the 3 point Biden margin in MI isn't enough to absorb the blood red rural territory added to "Greater Michigan," so that one votes GOP.

Whichever of the alternative MN and WI states doesn't have the Twin Cities is going to vote GOP.  Alternative WI is missing Milwaukee, so it is an easy GOP win if it doesn't have MSP. 

Memphis is enough by itself to flip real Mississippi, so I have to assume the Delta state votes Dem.

East Texas is going to still vote R.  Grouping Dallas with Houston isn't enough.  For comparison, grouping Austin with El Paso and the RGV generates a state that is only Lean D (maybe Likely D in 2016).

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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2021, 12:13:44 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2021, 12:21:47 PM by Vern »



am I closer than the previous guess was? Carolina might have also voted Biden.


You missed 9 states.
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2021, 12:19:53 PM »

My guesses for each state in terms of certainty


Safe Biden: West Coast Districts (14+14+23), Greater Chicago (17), the NoVA/MD/DE district (14), NJ/NYC (31), South NJ and PA (12), Connecticut and Massachusetts (12+7), Arizona/IE district (24), Weird Vermonty thing and south NH and ME (4+4), DC (3) (183 EV)
Lean Biden: the NV/East CA district (11), the Mississippi River district (6), Greater New Mexico (5), Northern Georgia (14) (36 EV)
Tilt Biden: MN (8.), South Florida (19), Erie area (9), Big Michigan (19) (55 EV)

Tilt Trump: Big Colorado (14), East TX (24), Big Wisconsin (12), United Virginia (12) (62 EV)
Lean Trump: Non Coastal WA and OR with ID (7), ME-02 and northern NH (4), Upstate NY (10), Coastal Carolinas (18) (39EV)
Safe Trump: KS/NE/SD/ND/OK/MO/IA/AR/LA/TN/KY/Downstate IL/IN/Southern Ohio/PA/West TX/Gulf Florida/South GA/AK/MT (163EV)



Basically a narrow Biden victory

You have 7 states wrong Smiley


Oh wow ok. Are Hennepin and Ramsey in WI or MN?


One is in MN, one is in WI. 😄
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2021, 12:30:11 PM »

My guesses for each state in terms of certainty


Safe Biden: West Coast Districts (14+14+23), Greater Chicago (17), the NoVA/MD/DE district (14), NJ/NYC (31), South NJ and PA (12), Connecticut and Massachusetts (12+7), Arizona/IE district (24), Weird Vermonty thing and south NH and ME (4+4), DC (3) (183 EV)
Lean Biden: the NV/East CA district (11), the Mississippi River district (6), Greater New Mexico (5), Northern Georgia (14) (36 EV)
Tilt Biden: MN (8.), South Florida (19), Erie area (9), Big Michigan (19) (55 EV)

Tilt Trump: Big Colorado (14), East TX (24), Big Wisconsin (12), United Virginia (12) (62 EV)
Lean Trump: Non Coastal WA and OR with ID (7), ME-02 and northern NH (4), Upstate NY (10), Coastal Carolinas (18) (39EV)
Safe Trump: KS/NE/SD/ND/OK/MO/IA/AR/LA/TN/KY/Downstate IL/IN/Southern Ohio/PA/West TX/Gulf Florida/South GA/AK/MT (163EV)



Basically a narrow Biden victory

You have 7 states wrong Smiley


Oh wow ok. Are Hennepin and Ramsey in WI or MN?


One is in MN, one is in WI. 😄




Is this any better
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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2021, 07:17:23 PM »

My guesses for each state in terms of certainty


Safe Biden: West Coast Districts (14+14+23), Greater Chicago (17), the NoVA/MD/DE district (14), NJ/NYC (31), South NJ and PA (12), Connecticut and Massachusetts (12+7), Arizona/IE district (24), Weird Vermonty thing and south NH and ME (4+4), DC (3) (183 EV)
Lean Biden: the NV/East CA district (11), the Mississippi River district (6), Greater New Mexico (5), Northern Georgia (14) (36 EV)
Tilt Biden: MN (8.), South Florida (19), Erie area (9), Big Michigan (19) (55 EV)

Tilt Trump: Big Colorado (14), East TX (24), Big Wisconsin (12), United Virginia (12) (62 EV)
Lean Trump: Non Coastal WA and OR with ID (7), ME-02 and northern NH (4), Upstate NY (10), Coastal Carolinas (18) (39EV)
Safe Trump: KS/NE/SD/ND/OK/MO/IA/AR/LA/TN/KY/Downstate IL/IN/Southern Ohio/PA/West TX/Gulf Florida/South GA/AK/MT (163EV)



Basically a narrow Biden victory

You have 7 states wrong Smiley


Oh wow ok. Are Hennepin and Ramsey in WI or MN?


One is in MN, one is in WI. 😄




Is this any better


You got 9 wrong Smiley I'm about to post the results.
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2021, 08:55:10 PM »

And the results are in and here it is!



Biden: 271 Trump: 267
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2021, 07:50:32 PM »

Cool
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2021, 10:30:57 PM »

And this is what we call CHAOS.

(And a cool map too).
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