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« Reply #500 on: April 20, 2022, 06:50:42 AM »

This is pretty unexpected for Fried based on her campaign thus far, but I applaud her for it. This is what Democrats should be running on nationwide. Trying to make the pandemic last forever is not only societally damaging, but a political loser as well. I also don't think this one tweet will have much of effect on the primary. If Crist wins, it won't be because of this.

On the contrary, getting rid of the mask mandate will make the pandemic last longer, and more people die.
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« Reply #501 on: April 20, 2022, 08:53:19 AM »

This is pretty unexpected for Fried based on her campaign thus far, but I applaud her for it. This is what Democrats should be running on nationwide. Trying to make the pandemic last forever is not only societally damaging, but a political loser as well. I also don't think this one tweet will have much of effect on the primary. If Crist wins, it won't be because of this.

On the contrary, getting rid of the mask mandate will make the pandemic last longer, and more people die.

What pandemic?
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« Reply #502 on: April 20, 2022, 09:19:38 AM »

This is pretty unexpected for Fried based on her campaign thus far, but I applaud her for it. This is what Democrats should be running on nationwide. Trying to make the pandemic last forever is not only societally damaging, but a political loser as well. I also don't think this one tweet will have much of effect on the primary. If Crist wins, it won't be because of this.

On the contrary, getting rid of the mask mandate will make the pandemic last longer, and more people die.
This is not a Pandemic anymore, it's an Endemic!
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« Reply #503 on: April 20, 2022, 11:26:46 AM »

This is pretty unexpected for Fried based on her campaign thus far, but I applaud her for it. This is what Democrats should be running on nationwide. Trying to make the pandemic last forever is not only societally damaging, but a political loser as well. I also don't think this one tweet will have much of effect on the primary. If Crist wins, it won't be because of this.

On the contrary, getting rid of the mask mandate will make the pandemic last longer, and more people die.

You're not funny and your schtick is extremely tiresome.
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« Reply #504 on: April 20, 2022, 11:36:42 AM »

She’s done.
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« Reply #505 on: April 20, 2022, 11:40:46 AM »

She’s done.


She's based af. I knew I liked her.

We need more Dems like Nikki Fried.

Get people universal healthcare and leave their guns and weed alone.
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« Reply #506 on: April 20, 2022, 11:49:21 AM »

Lol

Once again, her supporters are not happy.
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« Reply #507 on: April 20, 2022, 11:51:31 AM »

Lol

Once again, her supporters are not happy.

It's a shame. She's been giving heavy Polis vibes as of late and has a very subtle sense of humor that I appreciate very much.

Dems don't deserve her.
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« Reply #508 on: April 20, 2022, 12:31:15 PM »

Lol

Once again, her supporters are not happy.

Is she pivoting to running in the Libertarian Party at this point? Not that they would accept her lol
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« Reply #509 on: April 20, 2022, 12:34:22 PM »

Maybe she’s tanking on purpose expecting the dem nominee to take a beating anyways. Then she could run for senate or something in 2024 as the I told you so candidate?
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« Reply #510 on: April 22, 2022, 02:56:45 AM »

We're gonna have to closely watch FL, it's the closest Latino State out there I don't care about Approvals it's votes that matters and Trump only won it by 3

NC is going in the wrong direction it was won by Trump by 1.2 now it's an R 7 state why because it's not LATINO
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« Reply #511 on: April 22, 2022, 03:43:06 AM »

Why so much attention on this race for second place?

I guess because DeSantis is a national figure now? However, Democrats don't seem to put too much effort in actually beating DeathSantis, and probably for a good reason since he's not particularly likely to lose anyway.
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« Reply #512 on: April 22, 2022, 05:10:33 AM »

IDK why people are acting like this will destroy Fried, she's a politican who can probably sense the Biden administration is not popular and she shouldn't tie herself to it.

Honestly if the FL Democrats were halfway competent they could have a real shot of dethroning De Santis by  running against his firebrand stunts and painting him as someone who cares more for their own ambition than the state. Red-baiting like getting rid of Disneys tax exemption might improve his national image, but it'll hit harder when taxes have to go up in Orange County and the regional economy takes a hit. Mobilize those affected by the regional economic instability as well as others who work in sectors at risk with a message that Desantis will sell them down the river to become president.
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« Reply #513 on: April 22, 2022, 10:53:15 PM »

IDK why people are acting like this will destroy Fried, she's a politican who can probably sense the Biden administration is not popular and she shouldn't tie herself to it.

Honestly if the FL Democrats were halfway competent they could have a real shot of dethroning De Santis by  running against his firebrand stunts and painting him as someone who cares more for their own ambition than the state. Red-baiting like getting rid of Disneys tax exemption might improve his national image, but it'll hit harder when taxes have to go up in Orange County and the regional economy takes a hit. Mobilize those affected by the regional economic instability as well as others who work in sectors at risk with a message that Desantis will sell them down the river to become president.

That's DeSantis's real weak point, and it's the reason many would argue Younkin was able to beat McAuliffe. It's also partly why GA's governorship is being so highly contested in what should be a very good yaer for Rs.

That being said I think either way their chances of winning this race are unlikely at best barring some very dramatic turn; instead they should work on building up infrastructure for when Florida is more winnable. Their recent performance in Miami and Southeast Florida generally was frankly pathetic in 2020, both in terms of turnout and actually persuading voters. Why do the black communities in Miami only have like 30% turnout!?

I feel like Dems have either given up on Florida or are doing all the wrong things to try and win it back. Yes, the state isn't as high of a priortity as it once was, but just ceding 30 EVs to the GOP seems silly, especially when you have the demographics and likely the votes to be able to win.
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« Reply #514 on: April 22, 2022, 11:32:49 PM »
« Edited: April 23, 2022, 06:19:43 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

IDK why people are acting like this will destroy Fried, she's a politican who can probably sense the Biden administration is not popular and she shouldn't tie herself to it.

Honestly if the FL Democrats were halfway competent they could have a real shot of dethroning De Santis by  running against his firebrand stunts and painting him as someone who cares more for their own ambition than the state. Red-baiting like getting rid of Disneys tax exemption might improve his national image, but it'll hit harder when taxes have to go up in Orange County and the regional economy takes a hit. Mobilize those affected by the regional economic instability as well as others who work in sectors at risk with a message that Desantis will sell them down the river to become president.

That's DeSantis's real weak point, and it's the reason many would argue Younkin was able to beat McAuliffe. It's also partly why GA's governorship is being so highly contested in what should be a very good yaer for Rs.

That being said I think either way their chances of winning this race are unlikely at best barring some very dramatic turn; instead they should work on building up infrastructure for when Florida is more winnable. Their recent performance in Miami and Southeast Florida generally was frankly pathetic in 2020, both in terms of turnout and actually persuading voters. Why do the black communities in Miami only have like 30% turnout!?

I feel like Dems have either given up on Florida or are doing all the wrong things to try and win it back. Yes, the state isn't as high of a priortity as it once was, but just ceding 30 EVs to the GOP seems silly, especially when you have the demographics and likely the votes to be able to win.

Lol you guys keep talking about VA, we won the Cali recall and NJ that's a Straw man's argument, Newsom was polling in the 50 s and he overperformed and got 63/37,

You know why Ds  UNDERPERFORMED IN VA, NJ CORY BOOKER AND MARK WARNER WERE IN THE BALLOT IN 2020 NOT 2021, TIM KAINE IS ON THE BALLOT IN 24 ITS SAFE D VA AGAIN

STOP COMPARING VA AND NJ WE WON CALI RECALL AND NEWSOM WAS NOWHERE CLOSE TO 63 AND HE IS GONNA WIN 63 PERCENT

WE DONT NEED FL ITS NICE TO HAVE ITS WAVE INSURANCE FOR A D H BUT DeSantis beat a socialist in 2018 Gillum, Crist is a BLUE DOG

He along with Rubio are only up by 54/47 the other polls showing 20 pts were University of FL polls
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« Reply #515 on: April 25, 2022, 07:22:38 PM »



Desantis got what he wants and he finally gives his crucial endorsement .
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« Reply #516 on: April 26, 2022, 12:05:37 AM »

I have been back and forth on this race because don't have any polls once again from FL or TX DeSANTIS underpolled Gillum see obits a chance he can lose to Crist, Crist and Beto are serious candidates compared to Valdez and HEGAR and GILLUM

The Rs are gonna do very well at SOS and AG and state legislature but it's the Gov, H and S that matters we need FL or TX to put breaks on an RH

Polls do underestimate not White vote but Blk and Latino votes
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« Reply #517 on: April 26, 2022, 08:57:01 AM »

I have been back and forth on this race because don't have any polls once again from FL or TX DeSANTIS underpolled Gillum see obits a chance he can lose to Crist, Crist and Beto are serious candidates compared to Valdez and HEGAR and GILLUM

The Rs are gonna do very well at SOS and AG and state legislature but it's the Gov, H and S that matters we need FL or TX to put breaks on an RH

Polls do underestimate not White vote but Blk and Latino votes

FL polls overestimated Dem support in 2018 and 2020. Given the current environment, there's little reason to believe DeSantis wins by less than 6-7 pts. 9-12 pts. is more likely.
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« Reply #518 on: April 26, 2022, 11:27:25 AM »

Here's a rather bold take I have: DeSantis narrowly wins Miami-Dade but loses Hillsborough. I have the opposite being true for the Senate. Rubio wins Hillsborough but loses Miami-Dade.
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« Reply #519 on: April 26, 2022, 01:26:24 PM »

Here's a rather bold take I have: DeSantis narrowly wins Miami-Dade but loses Hillsborough. I have the opposite being true for the Senate. Rubio wins Hillsborough but loses Miami-Dade.
What demographics do you think would be DeSantis/Demings or Crist/Rubio voters
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« Reply #520 on: April 26, 2022, 02:48:29 PM »
« Edited: April 26, 2022, 02:52:24 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

I have been back and forth on this race because don't have any polls once again from FL or TX DeSANTIS underpolled Gillum see obits a chance he can lose to Crist, Crist and Beto are serious candidates compared to Valdez and HEGAR and GILLUM

The Rs are gonna do very well at SOS and AG and state legislature but it's the Gov, H and S that matters we need FL or TX to put breaks on an RH

Polls do underestimate not White vote but Blk and Latino votes

FL polls overestimated Dem support in 2018 and 2020. Given the current environment, there's little reason to believe DeSantis wins by less than 6-7 pts. 9-12 pts. is more likely.


DeSantis isn't winning by 12 pts and Minorities and Females are underpolling I did those same surveys in college, married people and Whites were overpolled

Sure Jan., Once again quoting R talking pts and you are supposed to be a D
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« Reply #521 on: April 26, 2022, 10:15:55 PM »

Here's a rather bold take I have: DeSantis narrowly wins Miami-Dade but loses Hillsborough. I have the opposite being true for the Senate. Rubio wins Hillsborough but loses Miami-Dade.
What demographics do you think would be DeSantis/Demings or Crist/Rubio voters

DeSantis - Dem Sen would prolly be someone who can still stomach Rs on a state level, maybe for tax reasons but agrees more with Dem optics on a federal level. There are prolly some urban white voters like

Rubio - Dem Gov likely someone who likes folks with lower profile and perceived "moderacy" or generally votes GOP but doesn't like all DeSantis's shenanigans. These would likely be lower propensity voters who want more help economically and such.
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« Reply #522 on: April 26, 2022, 11:52:04 PM »

IDK why people are acting like this will destroy Fried, she's a politican who can probably sense the Biden administration is not popular and she shouldn't tie herself to it.

Honestly if the FL Democrats were halfway competent they could have a real shot of dethroning De Santis by  running against his firebrand stunts and painting him as someone who cares more for their own ambition than the state. Red-baiting like getting rid of Disneys tax exemption might improve his national image, but it'll hit harder when taxes have to go up in Orange County and the regional economy takes a hit. Mobilize those affected by the regional economic instability as well as others who work in sectors at risk with a message that Desantis will sell them down the river to become president.

That's DeSantis's real weak point, and it's the reason many would argue Younkin was able to beat McAuliffe. It's also partly why GA's governorship is being so highly contested in what should be a very good yaer for Rs.

That being said I think either way their chances of winning this race are unlikely at best barring some very dramatic turn; instead they should work on building up infrastructure for when Florida is more winnable. Their recent performance in Miami and Southeast Florida generally was frankly pathetic in 2020, both in terms of turnout and actually persuading voters. Why do the black communities in Miami only have like 30% turnout!?

I feel like Dems have either given up on Florida or are doing all the wrong things to try and win it back. Yes, the state isn't as high of a priortity as it once was, but just ceding 30 EVs to the GOP seems silly, especially when you have the demographics and likely the votes to be able to win.


Even if Biden won Miami-Dade by around the same margin Hillary did, hed still have lost the state by over 100k votes. The voters Democrats have lost in Florida since 2012 include many of the same WWC that have become Republican since 2016.


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« Reply #523 on: April 27, 2022, 03:20:25 AM »

IDK why people are acting like this will destroy Fried, she's a politican who can probably sense the Biden administration is not popular and she shouldn't tie herself to it.

Honestly if the FL Democrats were halfway competent they could have a real shot of dethroning De Santis by  running against his firebrand stunts and painting him as someone who cares more for their own ambition than the state. Red-baiting like getting rid of Disneys tax exemption might improve his national image, but it'll hit harder when taxes have to go up in Orange County and the regional economy takes a hit. Mobilize those affected by the regional economic instability as well as others who work in sectors at risk with a message that Desantis will sell them down the river to become president.

That's DeSantis's real weak point, and it's the reason many would argue Younkin was able to beat McAuliffe. It's also partly why GA's governorship is being so highly contested in what should be a very good yaer for Rs.

That being said I think either way their chances of winning this race are unlikely at best barring some very dramatic turn; instead they should work on building up infrastructure for when Florida is more winnable. Their recent performance in Miami and Southeast Florida generally was frankly pathetic in 2020, both in terms of turnout and actually persuading voters. Why do the black communities in Miami only have like 30% turnout!?

I feel like Dems have either given up on Florida or are doing all the wrong things to try and win it back. Yes, the state isn't as high of a priortity as it once was, but just ceding 30 EVs to the GOP seems silly, especially when you have the demographics and likely the votes to be able to win.


Even if Biden won Miami-Dade by around the same margin Hillary did, hed still have lost the state by over 100k votes. The voters Democrats have lost in Florida since 2012 include many of the same WWC that have become Republican since 2016.




DeSantis didn't win by 3 percent like Trump did he won 0.5 well within the Margin of Error against a Socialist, DeSantis will lose
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« Reply #524 on: April 30, 2022, 10:08:37 AM »

Huge blunder by Charlie Crist. He wants to have a Mask Mandate - Hilarious. Yeah, that will sit extremely well with the Conservative Florida Midterm Electorate
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/charlie-crist-desantis-mask-mandate-covid

Crist will go nowhere in the GE with this sh**t!
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