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« Reply #375 on: December 12, 2021, 06:32:52 PM »


It's clear that Fried's political skills are very questionable. How the hell did she even get elected in the first place?

As we all know, virtue signals are more important than winning elections.... and accomplishing things related to agriculture, apparently. My guess is she'll blame her loss on rampant sexism in the electorate.
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« Reply #376 on: December 12, 2021, 06:43:57 PM »

Whatever you think about DeSantis, you have to admit his opponents are cringe
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DeSantis winning is almost guaranteed. Now I just want to see a 2022 Florida double digit R win map.

I'm curious as well. If the margin ends up that big, I wonder if it's because more because of reversion in areas like Duval or further massive swings in south FL, particularly Miami-Dade. There's likely to be a touch of both happening here, but I'm sure one will be much more pronounced than the other.
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« Reply #377 on: December 13, 2021, 03:47:48 AM »

Whatever you think about DeSantis, you have to admit his opponents are cringe
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DeSantis winning is almost guaranteed. Now I just want to see a 2022 Florida double digit R win map.

I'm curious as well. If the margin ends up that big, I wonder if it's because more because of reversion in areas like Duval or further massive swings in south FL, particularly Miami-Dade. There's likely to be a touch of both happening here, but I'm sure one will be much more pronounced than the other.

Both are very likely to occur, but I would imagine more so the latter rather than the former.
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« Reply #378 on: December 13, 2021, 08:15:11 AM »

No one said this is gonna flip but if we get a blue wave going with Beto boyish looks we can win either TX or FL along with OH or NC because Latinx and BLK voters and Female voters are swing voters not Evangelical


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« Reply #379 on: December 13, 2021, 01:21:39 PM »


They're not winning with that messaging either so...
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« Reply #380 on: December 13, 2021, 01:49:11 PM »
« Edited: December 13, 2021, 01:53:06 PM by Mr. MANDELA BARNES »



You never know what wave might develop at Labor Day 2022/ it wasn't a D plus 9 election until October 2018/ and Obama in 2008/12 was supposed to win 300 EC votes FL was the last state to flirt with McCain and Romney in 2008/12 this is the same Biden that was on the ballot in 2008/12 as VEEP


Biden only lost FL by 51/47 and DeSantis isn't winning by 10, neither is Abbott winning by 10/15 it was six pts in 2020 too 52/46 and Beto only lost TX by 2 in 2018
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« Reply #381 on: December 13, 2021, 03:57:03 PM »



You never know what wave might develop at Labor Day 2022/ it wasn't a D plus 9 election until October 2018/ and Obama in 2008/12 was supposed to win 300 EC votes FL was the last state to flirt with McCain and Romney in 2008/12 this is the same Biden that was on the ballot in 2008/12 as VEEP


Biden only lost FL by 51/47 and DeSantis isn't winning by 10, neither is Abbott winning by 10/15 it was six pts in 2020 too 52/46 and Beto only lost TX by 2 in 2018

My guy I was talking about the latinx stuff, you ain't gotta bring up all that
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« Reply #382 on: December 13, 2021, 06:25:49 PM »



You never know what wave might develop at Labor Day 2022/ it wasn't a D plus 9 election until October 2018/ and Obama in 2008/12 was supposed to win 300 EC votes FL was the last state to flirt with McCain and Romney in 2008/12 this is the same Biden that was on the ballot in 2008/12 as VEEP


Biden only lost FL by 51/47 and DeSantis isn't winning by 10, neither is Abbott winning by 10/15 it was six pts in 2020 too 52/46 and Beto only lost TX by 2 in 2018

My guy I was talking about the latinx stuff, you ain't gotta bring up all that

You're talking to olawakandi. What did you expect?
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« Reply #383 on: December 13, 2021, 06:40:31 PM »



You never know what wave might develop at Labor Day 2022/ it wasn't a D plus 9 election until October 2018/ and Obama in 2008/12 was supposed to win 300 EC votes FL was the last state to flirt with McCain and Romney in 2008/12 this is the same Biden that was on the ballot in 2008/12 as VEEP


Biden only lost FL by 51/47 and DeSantis isn't winning by 10, neither is Abbott winning by 10/15 it was six pts in 2020 too 52/46 and Beto only lost TX by 2 in 2018

My guy I was talking about the latinx stuff, you ain't gotta bring up all that

You're talking to olawakandi. What did you expect?

Oh I know, I know.
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« Reply #384 on: December 14, 2021, 05:32:31 AM »



It's clear that Fried's political skills are very questionable. How the hell did she even get elected in the first place?

And that she won while Bill Nelson lost is even more astonishing.
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« Reply #385 on: December 14, 2021, 09:07:16 AM »



It's clear that Fried's political skills are very questionable. How the hell did she even get elected in the first place?

And that she won while Bill Nelson lost is even more astonishing.

Possible that I'm missing something obvious, but I don't see what is politically toxic here?
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« Reply #386 on: December 14, 2021, 09:27:55 AM »



It's clear that Fried's political skills are very questionable. How the hell did she even get elected in the first place?

And that she won while Bill Nelson lost is even more astonishing.

Possible that I'm missing something obvious, but I don't see what is politically toxic here?

To answer both questions, I think the point here is that this may come off as "identity politics", which isn't exactly a winning strategy in purple or lean red territory. It's not per se problematic as a political standpoint, just not the best campaign strategy. That said, at this point she's not trying to win the GE but the Dem nomination.

How did she get elected in the first place? It's a lower profile office with less partisanship and a few thousand votes made a difference. Nelson and Gillum just barely lost. She didn't much crossover votes.
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« Reply #387 on: December 14, 2021, 11:15:19 AM »
« Edited: December 14, 2021, 11:18:21 AM by Mr. MANDELA BARNES »

D's can win this race but Biden has to clear 50% like he was in Sep like Newsom was they were both 57%

All of our Red State wave insurance seats our D's are 6 pts back and in a blue wave that's not much difference especially since DeSantis was six behind Gullium and came back and Ryan can win since OH split it's votes in 2o18

Beto is six pts not 15 due to fact in a 304 map scenario Biden lost TX by six and lost FL by 3
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« Reply #388 on: December 14, 2021, 03:27:03 PM »



It's clear that Fried's political skills are very questionable. How the hell did she even get elected in the first place?

And that she won while Bill Nelson lost is even more astonishing.

Possible that I'm missing something obvious, but I don't see what is politically toxic here?

Well, Fried isn't the only public official who's touted efforts to increase diversity among the membership or employees of their respective office or agency. But on balance, I think she's to the left of the state and doesn't have enough staying power to win another term as Agricultural Commissioner, let alone to defeat DeSantis.
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« Reply #389 on: December 14, 2021, 03:46:51 PM »

D's can win this race but Biden has to clear 50% like he was in Sep like Newsom was they were both 57%

All of our Red State wave insurance seats our D's are 6 pts back and in a blue wave that's not much difference especially since DeSantis was six behind Gullium and came back and Ryan can win since OH split it's votes in 2o18

Beto is six pts not 15 due to fact in a 304 map scenario Biden lost TX by six and lost FL by 3

Florida has almost 1000 people a day moving in. Exactly ONE demographic in this country has the disposable income to just pack their stuff, live in hotels for weeks on end in Florida and just "buy a house" for $400,000 in cash. Folks who done paid for their houses, sold it and are retired. Try to guess what party has a vice grip on that one? Democrats will be lucky if they don't lose in Florida by double digits in 2022 and 2024. Especially with the fact they basically don't report COVID anymore and everyone is stupid enough to point their fingers and say, "lOoK At HoW wElL FlOrIdA iS dOiNg!"
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« Reply #390 on: December 14, 2021, 05:18:07 PM »

Fried's graphic doesn't really use any activist-ish language and is mostly written in broad platitudes highlighting admirable but ultimately meaningless "firsts" and actions without noting results or any metric of success.

It's the exact kind of innocuous "identity" dialogue that makes white people feel good about themselves/their leaders and on net seems like a political positive? I don't know. I doubt many voters are keeping up with her twitter page regardless.
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« Reply #391 on: December 16, 2021, 10:57:29 AM »

LOL. Crist has humor, or at least the people doing his social media. Still not going to win.

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« Reply #392 on: December 16, 2021, 11:04:15 AM »

Yeah he won't win, because of Nord Strem 2 Pipeline in the Deep South that Cruz wants changed and Biden won't visit the Border he hasn't and won't he is in the pocket of immigration activists
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« Reply #393 on: December 18, 2021, 05:45:36 PM »

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« Reply #394 on: December 18, 2021, 08:07:24 PM »


At least she looks like a Floridian in this picture  Angry
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« Reply #395 on: December 18, 2021, 08:15:53 PM »


Looking like that, who wouldn't want her to dominate you?
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« Reply #396 on: December 18, 2021, 08:17:59 PM »


At least she looks like a Floridian in this picture  Angry

She looks like a female Trump supporter to me, attending one of his rallies, probably with an open-carry firearm on her hip, and possibly wearing a shirt with an anti-Democratic or pro-Trump message. This is just like Jon Tester's "rough and ready farmer and rancher" image in his ads and Manchin's stunt of shooting a rifle.
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« Reply #397 on: December 18, 2021, 08:24:48 PM »

It's not like this race was ever winnable for Democrats, but either Crist or Fried are going to completely embarrass us in Florida next November.
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« Reply #398 on: December 18, 2021, 08:33:45 PM »


This is not at all the right way to do identity politics.
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« Reply #399 on: December 18, 2021, 09:37:14 PM »


This is not at all the right way to do identity politics.
She's identifying as white trash, the largest voting bloc in Florida  Angry
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