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« Reply #700 on: November 07, 2023, 05:08:20 PM »

Does turnout look bad for Cameron because he wasn't an inspiring candidate, the election itsself is not seen as important or these people are kind of resigned to Beshear, who hasn't enflamed much passion against him? I guess a combination of all of these. (However, not getting ahead of myself here, the election isn't over and Beshear isn't guaranteed to win yet).

It probably actually is in large part because a nontrivial number of rural Kentucky whites who otherwise would vote Republican can't bring themselves to turn out for a black man.
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Yeah, racism ain't over yet. Certainly not in Eastern Kentucky.

Or in North Georgia, either.  I think in some cases it's unconscious racism; while some people wouldn't intentionally discriminate, they may get an uncomfortable "vibe" about a black candidate when it comes time to choose.  (For others, of course, it's more conscious and deliberate.)

No doubt.

But in Eastern Kentucky specifically, some of those counties were giving John Kerry Kim Jong-un style margins then suddenly flipped to voting for McCain four years later. Hard to imagine why...
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« Reply #701 on: November 07, 2023, 06:02:49 PM »
« Edited: November 07, 2023, 06:07:54 PM by Dean Phillips target demo »

Good turnout numbers for Beshear, time to pop open the bourbon yet? Or am I counting my racehorses before they hatch? Bluegrass?

I'm seeing the first results coming in too, from Menifee county if that means anything.
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« Reply #702 on: November 07, 2023, 06:03:39 PM »

Good numbers for Beshear, time to pop open the bourbon yet? Or am I counting my racehorses before they hatch? Bluegrass?

Where are you seeing results? NYT has nothing up.
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« Reply #703 on: November 07, 2023, 06:04:59 PM »

FIRST VOTES!

Menifee County-

Beshear (52%) 194
Cameron (48%) 182

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« Reply #704 on: November 07, 2023, 06:05:20 PM »

Good numbers for Beshear, time to pop open the bourbon yet? Or am I counting my racehorses before they hatch? Bluegrass?

Where are you seeing results? NYT has nothing up.

Sorry, I meant in terms of things like turnout in Louisville. But I updated my post, numbers are starting to trickle in with a slight lead for Beshear.
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« Reply #705 on: November 07, 2023, 06:06:48 PM »

It's all over. Cameron is already ahead by almost a thousand votes.
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« Reply #706 on: November 07, 2023, 06:11:11 PM »

Cameron seems to be underperforming Bevin in the rurals
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« Reply #707 on: November 07, 2023, 06:19:48 PM »

Reminder once we do start getting drops from Louisville, Lexington and the Cincinnati suburbs that unless we know exactly what precincts they're from they're not usable for comparisons to 2019 at least until we get like 70% in.
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« Reply #708 on: November 07, 2023, 06:28:17 PM »

But in Eastern Kentucky specifically, some of those counties were giving John Kerry Kim Jong-un style margins then suddenly flipped to voting for McCain four years later. Hard to imagine why...

"Kim Jong Un margins"? Where?

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« Reply #709 on: November 07, 2023, 06:38:44 PM »

Does turnout look bad for Cameron because he wasn't an inspiring candidate, the election itsself is not seen as important or these people are kind of resigned to Beshear, who hasn't enflamed much passion against him? I guess a combination of all of these. (However, not getting ahead of myself here, the election isn't over and Beshear isn't guaranteed to win yet).

It probably actually is in large part because a nontrivial number of rural Kentucky whites who otherwise would vote Republican can't bring themselves to turn out for a black man.
Still?!

Yeah, racism ain't over yet. Certainly not in Eastern Kentucky.

Or in North Georgia, either.  I think in some cases it's unconscious racism; while some people wouldn't intentionally discriminate, they may get an uncomfortable "vibe" about a black candidate when it comes time to choose.  (For others, of course, it's more conscious and deliberate.)

No doubt.

But in Eastern Kentucky specifically, some of those counties were giving John Kerry Kim Jong-un style margins then suddenly flipped to voting for McCain four years later. Hard to imagine why...
The Appalachian voters swinging GOP due to racism theory made some level of sense in the aftermath of the 2008/2012 elections with their sharp swings against Obama. But it makes less sense in 2016/2020, in which two white Democratic nominees (Clinton/Biden) performed far worse in these areas than Obama did.
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« Reply #710 on: November 07, 2023, 06:56:32 PM »

Beshear may win Elliott again lol
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« Reply #711 on: November 07, 2023, 06:59:15 PM »

Its literally tied in Elliot according to DDHQ
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« Reply #712 on: November 07, 2023, 07:01:27 PM »

KY too early to call lol.
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« Reply #713 on: November 07, 2023, 07:03:25 PM »

Beshear has 61% in Breathitt with 83% of the vote counted. He won it by 50% last time.
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« Reply #714 on: November 07, 2023, 07:12:01 PM »

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« Reply #715 on: November 07, 2023, 07:18:25 PM »

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« Reply #716 on: November 07, 2023, 07:18:34 PM »

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« Reply #717 on: November 07, 2023, 07:19:18 PM »

What a disaster Daniel Cameron was.
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« Reply #718 on: November 07, 2023, 07:21:18 PM »

Looking like the biggest, fattest L yet for Mitch McConnell, the worst politician of the century.
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« Reply #719 on: November 07, 2023, 07:23:26 PM »

McConnell is both fuming and relieved, his handpicked successor is still available for 2026, but on the other hand Beshear just won a second term
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« Reply #720 on: November 07, 2023, 07:24:44 PM »



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« Reply #721 on: November 07, 2023, 07:27:49 PM »

McConnell is both fuming and relieved, his handpicked successor is still available for 2026, but on the other hand Beshear just won a second term

Beshear will probably not appoint Cameron as a Senator, and I doubt after this that Cameron would be able to win a statewide primary.
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« Reply #722 on: November 07, 2023, 07:28:37 PM »

lol, beshear's won powell county by 1 vote. (bevin won it by 5 points)

nicholas county went from +1 beshear in 2019 to +12 beshear tonight
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« Reply #723 on: November 07, 2023, 07:32:40 PM »

So glad I made Beshear+4.5 my final prediction.
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« Reply #724 on: November 07, 2023, 07:37:12 PM »

Another massive W for Unbeatable Titan Andy Beshear
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