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« Reply #425 on: April 03, 2021, 04:25:19 PM »

I think having Tim Ryan as the Senate candidate and someone like Kevin Boyce as the gubernatorial candidate would boost the fortunes of both.  Maybe not enough to push either over the finish line, but still...I like Ryan's odds a lot more if he's running alongside a complementary candidate for governor.

Trust me, you don't want Boyce anywhere near the statewide ticket.  The guy is an Ed FitzGerald waiting to happen.  Of the folks who've been discussed as candidates, John Cranley seems like our best bet as insurance in case DeWine loses his primary to some clown like Renacci or even Warren Davidson.

How about John Boccieri?

Boccieri couldn’t even win his own state senate district in 2018, his career in elected office is over.

Man, Ohio Democrats are in sorry shape.  It's hard to even identify promising up-and-comers.  Yech!

They were flying high in the late 2000s, but got totally crushed in 2010 and just haven't recovered since.
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« Reply #426 on: April 03, 2021, 04:29:41 PM »

I think having Tim Ryan as the Senate candidate and someone like Kevin Boyce as the gubernatorial candidate would boost the fortunes of both.  Maybe not enough to push either over the finish line, but still...I like Ryan's odds a lot more if he's running alongside a complementary candidate for governor.

Trust me, you don't want Boyce anywhere near the statewide ticket.  The guy is an Ed FitzGerald waiting to happen.  Of the folks who've been discussed as candidates, John Cranley seems like our best bet as insurance in case DeWine loses his primary to some clown like Renacci or even Warren Davidson.

How about John Boccieri?

Boccieri couldn’t even win his own state senate district in 2018, his career in elected office is over.

Man, Ohio Democrats are in sorry shape.  It's hard to even identify promising up-and-comers.  Yech!

They were flying high in the late 2000s, but got totally crushed in 2010 and just haven't recovered since.

You are wrong Sherrod Brown is still our Senator, just like in 2018/ in a big enough wave Tim Ryan can win and DeWine can win by split voting. Again Mandel is a weak opponent


Just like polls are showing weakness with DeSantis and Rubio holding firm, Rs don't have a monopoly on OH, IA, FL and NC
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« Reply #427 on: April 03, 2021, 04:38:38 PM »

I think having Tim Ryan as the Senate candidate and someone like Kevin Boyce as the gubernatorial candidate would boost the fortunes of both.  Maybe not enough to push either over the finish line, but still...I like Ryan's odds a lot more if he's running alongside a complementary candidate for governor.

Trust me, you don't want Boyce anywhere near the statewide ticket.  The guy is an Ed FitzGerald waiting to happen.  Of the folks who've been discussed as candidates, John Cranley seems like our best bet as insurance in case DeWine loses his primary to some clown like Renacci or even Warren Davidson.

How about John Boccieri?

Boccieri couldn’t even win his own state senate district in 2018, his career in elected office is over.

Man, Ohio Democrats are in sorry shape.  It's hard to even identify promising up-and-comers.  Yech!

Zach Klein and Kristen Boggs come to mind, but what you say is true.
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« Reply #428 on: April 05, 2021, 08:56:38 AM »

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« Reply #429 on: April 05, 2021, 09:53:41 AM »



It would seem as though Republicans have the momentum for 2022. Of course, that's to be expected.
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« Reply #430 on: April 05, 2021, 11:05:45 AM »

Danny O’Connor running for the House, which rules out a Senate campaign:

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« Reply #431 on: April 05, 2021, 11:06:26 AM »



It would seem as though Republicans have the momentum for 2022. Of course, that's to be expected.

Maybe in this race, but democrats have posted impressive funding as well. Andy Kim raised about 1 million
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« Reply #432 on: April 05, 2021, 12:48:58 PM »

I think having Tim Ryan as the Senate candidate and someone like Kevin Boyce as the gubernatorial candidate would boost the fortunes of both.  Maybe not enough to push either over the finish line, but still...I like Ryan's odds a lot more if he's running alongside a complementary candidate for governor.

Trust me, you don't want Boyce anywhere near the statewide ticket.  The guy is an Ed FitzGerald waiting to happen.  Of the folks who've been discussed as candidates, John Cranley seems like our best bet as insurance in case DeWine loses his primary to some clown like Renacci or even Warren Davidson.

Nan Whaley is so much better than John Cranley, it's not even funny.
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« Reply #433 on: April 05, 2021, 12:53:16 PM »

I think having Tim Ryan as the Senate candidate and someone like Kevin Boyce as the gubernatorial candidate would boost the fortunes of both.  Maybe not enough to push either over the finish line, but still...I like Ryan's odds a lot more if he's running alongside a complementary candidate for governor.

Trust me, you don't want Boyce anywhere near the statewide ticket.  The guy is an Ed FitzGerald waiting to happen.  Of the folks who've been discussed as candidates, John Cranley seems like our best bet as insurance in case DeWine loses his primary to some clown like Renacci or even Warren Davidson.

Nan Whaley is so much better than John Cranley, it's not even funny.

Why?  On paper Cranley seems like a much stronger candidate, but I’d be curious to know your thoughts.
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« Reply #434 on: April 05, 2021, 12:56:19 PM »

I think having Tim Ryan as the Senate candidate and someone like Kevin Boyce as the gubernatorial candidate would boost the fortunes of both.  Maybe not enough to push either over the finish line, but still...I like Ryan's odds a lot more if he's running alongside a complementary candidate for governor.

Trust me, you don't want Boyce anywhere near the statewide ticket.  The guy is an Ed FitzGerald waiting to happen.  Of the folks who've been discussed as candidates, John Cranley seems like our best bet as insurance in case DeWine loses his primary to some clown like Renacci or even Warren Davidson.

How about John Boccieri?

Boccieri couldn’t even win his own state senate district in 2018, his career in elected office is over.

Man, Ohio Democrats are in sorry shape.  It's hard to even identify promising up-and-comers.  Yech!

The aforementioned Whaley, Boggs, and Klein come to mind, as do: Shannon Hardin, Liz Brown, Aftab Pureval, Wade Kapszukiewicz, Mark Fogel, Allison Russo, Beth Liston, Casey Weinstein, Phil Robinson, and Jessica Miranda.

Kathleen Clyde, Dan Ramos, and some other former legislators aren't exactly hot commodities anymore, but they also wouldn't be bad. The same goes for longtime figures like David Leland, who have resisted the urge to jump for higher office.

Ultimately, gerrymandering and broken machines that quash youth participation in the cities have really thinned the bench.
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« Reply #435 on: April 05, 2021, 12:57:57 PM »

I think having Tim Ryan as the Senate candidate and someone like Kevin Boyce as the gubernatorial candidate would boost the fortunes of both.  Maybe not enough to push either over the finish line, but still...I like Ryan's odds a lot more if he's running alongside a complementary candidate for governor.

Trust me, you don't want Boyce anywhere near the statewide ticket.  The guy is an Ed FitzGerald waiting to happen.  Of the folks who've been discussed as candidates, John Cranley seems like our best bet as insurance in case DeWine loses his primary to some clown like Renacci or even Warren Davidson.

Nan Whaley is so much better than John Cranley, it's not even funny.

Why?  On paper Cranley seems like a much stronger candidate, but I’d be curious to know your thoughts.

Whaley has a bigger profile both in state and out of state, and much of Cincinnati can't stand Cranley. He got very lucky in 2017, from what I can tell.
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« Reply #436 on: April 05, 2021, 01:30:38 PM »



It would seem as though Republicans have the momentum for 2022. Of course, that's to be expected.


Why does Snowlabrador support Rs, Pelosi, Schumer and Back Dem gave you 2K Stimulus, the only reason why OH was so R in the 2010s was Boehner, You saw the polls Mandel and Rs are having trouble to either Acton or Ryan

Pelosi just gave you 2K the Rs wanted 1K and Johnson objected earlier
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« Reply #437 on: April 05, 2021, 04:34:05 PM »



It would seem as though Republicans have the momentum for 2022. Of course, that's to be expected.


Why does Snowlabrador support Rs, Pelosi, Schumer and Back Dem gave you 2K Stimulus, the only reason why OH was so R in the 2010s was Boehner, You saw the polls Mandel and Rs are having trouble to either Acton or Ryan

Pelosi just gave you 2K the Rs wanted 1K and Johnson objected earlier

Oh sure I agree that Acton or Ryan will get 40-42% of the vote, I guess you could say the polls are right in that case. But SnowLabrador is anticipating the almost certain scenario that the undecideds will break almost entirely Republican. Also the 2K will mean absolutely nothing in November 2022 when the election takes place there will be new salient issues at play, anyways this race is Safe R.
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« Reply #438 on: April 05, 2021, 07:48:29 PM »

You can put it Safe R on your Prediction and I will put it D next yr on my prediction, no harm done, that's that

When Dave finally puts out the maps and score our previous ones

We don't have the 2021 maps yet
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« Reply #439 on: April 06, 2021, 01:38:48 PM »

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« Reply #440 on: April 06, 2021, 01:39:21 PM »



As I've been saying for a while now. Bummed you beat me to it. lol
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« Reply #441 on: April 06, 2021, 02:19:37 PM »



Good.  Acton running as the Dem nominee would have supercharged the "social distancing orders were just a Dem conspiracy to defeat Trump" nonsense 1000X.  The current situation is bad enough.   
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« Reply #442 on: April 06, 2021, 06:47:47 PM »

Ryan needs a clear field anyways as Josh Mandel is weak enough to cause a split like in 2018 D's winning Senate and Rs winning the Gov race
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« Reply #443 on: April 06, 2021, 06:49:34 PM »

Bummer Acton isn’t running, but Safe R -> Safe R
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« Reply #444 on: April 06, 2021, 06:51:05 PM »


I disagree, we can win this race, why are Ds so pessimistic on FL and OH, poll showed DeSantis tied and he beat only an Afro American Socialisic and Mandel was statistically tied with Ryan

The Gov race and s safe R with DeWine
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« Reply #445 on: April 06, 2021, 06:57:28 PM »

I would ask "with Acton now out of the race what is Olawakandi's next obsession going to be?" And it appears to be the whole "Desantis only barely beat an 'afro-Socialist'" thing.
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« Reply #446 on: April 06, 2021, 07:02:31 PM »

I would ask "with Acton now out of the race what is Olawakandi's next obsession going to be?" And it appears to be the whole "Desantis only barely beat an 'afro-Socialist'" thing.

I have always said there can be split voting and I also said it can be a 3-5 pt PVI victory, D's need to do marginally better than 3 in order to keep House and Jackson and Ryan are Great candidates

D's netting WI, PA, OH, NC and winning KS, AZ and FL Gov races.

Split races DeWine, Ryan, FL Rubio/CRIST, WARNOCK/Kemp, NH Hassan/Ayotte for Gov
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« Reply #447 on: April 06, 2021, 08:40:31 PM »



So Tim Ryan is pretty much going to be unopposed in the primary now,  maybe that raises his chances in the general from 10% to 11%.
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« Reply #448 on: April 06, 2021, 09:28:51 PM »

I would ask "with Acton now out of the race what is Olawakandi's next obsession going to be?" And it appears to be the whole "Desantis only barely beat an 'afro-Socialist'" thing.

I have always said there can be split voting and I also said it can be a 3-5 pt PVI victory, D's need to do marginally better than 3 in order to keep House and Jackson and Ryan are Great candidates

D's netting WI, PA, OH, NC and winning KS, AZ and FL Gov races.

Split races DeWine, Ryan, FL Rubio/CRIST, WARNOCK/Kemp, NH Hassan/Ayotte for Gov

I've noticed you always capitalize WARNOCK like that. Why? Just curious.
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« Reply #449 on: April 06, 2021, 09:40:26 PM »



So Tim Ryan is pretty much going to be unopposed in the primary now,  maybe that raises his chances in the general from 10% to 11%.
So you're saying there's a chance?
lol Ohio
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