OH-Sen 2022: So you’re telling me there’s a chance

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Tim Ryan knows how to talk to these people, but they just aren't listening this year.

You know there hasn't been any OH, WI and PA polls and Biden Approvals are going up

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Tim Ryan knows how to talk to these people, but they just aren't listening this year.

Does he outrun Whaley?

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

Tim Ryan would be the perfect candidate to run against a establishment free trader like Dolan, Mandel or Timken.
Unfortunately for Ryan, his schtick won't work as well against someone who is even more protectionist than him, and who can appeal to economically nationalist voters while still appealing to the culturally conservative. Vance's advantages as a candidate cancel out Ryan's.

[coloradocowboi]

Tim Ryan would be the perfect candidate to run against a establishment free trader like Dolan, Mandel or Timken.
Unfortunately for Ryan, his schtick won't work as well against someone who is even more protectionist than him, and who can appeal to economically nationalist voters while still appealing to the culturally conservative. Vance's advantages as a candidate cancel out Ryan's.

Nobody cares about that. Unlike mandel, he has to defend being funded by an evil, gay billionaire. JD Vance isn’t an exceptional GOP candidate, and we are prolly about to find out he is the weakest. Man, between this and Oz, you’d think the GOP doesn’t care about winning. But yes, this race is still to their advantage.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

Tim Ryan would be the perfect candidate to run against a establishment free trader like Dolan, Mandel or Timken.
Unfortunately for Ryan, his schtick won't work as well against someone who is even more protectionist than him, and who can appeal to economically nationalist voters while still appealing to the culturally conservative. Vance's advantages as a candidate cancel out Ryan's.

Nobody cares about that. Unlike mandel, he has to defend being funded by an evil, gay billionaire. JD Vance isn’t an exceptional GOP candidate, and we are prolly about to find out he is the weakest. Man, between this and Oz, you’d think the GOP doesn’t care about winning. But yes, this race is still to their advantage.

Mandel was funded by billionaires too, the Club For Growth. And idk what Peter Theil being gay has to do with anything?

[UncleSam]

Too bad Vance is gonna destroy him at the ballot box lol

[Chips]

Neither of them enthuse me too much. I'm almost certainly going to vote independent in this race.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

Neither of them enthuse me too much. I'm almost certainly going to vote independent in this race.

This must be the first Ohio Senate race with all major candidates being protectionist in a long time.

[Alben Barkley]

Blursed ad.

Globalization and free trade are based.

But Ryan has to do what he must to try to defeat this faux hillbilly who managed to disgrace an entire region years ago by pretending to speak for all of Appalachia when he is in fact a completely clueless fake, then proved himself to be somehow EVEN MORE shameless by going from Never Trumper to full blown MAGAt in record time.

Vance deserves to burn in hell, and if there’s even an iota of a chance Ryan can defeat him, I’ll pull for it without reservation even if that means biting my tongue when he talks nonsense about trade.

[MillennialModerate]

Always liked Ryan.

But he will be lucky to get into the 40’s

Ohio is useless - unless we’re talking college football - in which case O-H!

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Tim Ryan is a great example of how fortune can often favor the bold.  Beginning with 2006, every cycle he was being heavily recruited to run for Governor or Senator, but Strickland and Brown boxed him out in 2006.  He kept waiting for a comparable national environment and basically blew it.  He should’ve either run for Senate in 2016.  That was the best shot he was gonna get and he turned it down.  

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

They haven't released any WI, OH, and PA GE polls the naysayers on this sites

You don't have to donate but we still have to vote, we don't even have a MD primary poll they won't give us a poll

[Pheurton Skeurto]

Some of Ryan's rhetoric during this cycle has missed the mark completely but I'm interested to see how he fares in the general. Too bad he probably won't be able to connect well enough to make a difference.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Some of Ryan's rhetoric during this cycle has missed the mark completely but I'm interested to see how he fares in the general. Too bad he probably won't be able to connect well enough to make a difference.

They haven't released a single poll yet and they won't poll MD Gov primary poll

[Sir Mohamed]

As already said by others, this could indeed be competitive in a 2nd Trump midterm, but partisan winds are just blowing too strong this time around for Ryan to have a serious shot. He might get within 10 pts, but not much closer. And Vance will be a downgrade from Portman.

While this ad isn't bad, I don't think Vance's past will matter that much. Trump has already proven that notion. It remains the fact that OH is a heavily R-leaning state and we're about to have a D-midterm with a POTUS that's somewhat around or slightly above 40% approvals.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

As I have said I am rooting for Ryan until and only until they release a poll, some think we should just give Senate races away you know our 4 best Senate seat pickups are MO, IA, OH and PA it doesn't have to go by the blue wall it probably will but our white candidates aside from GA Gov have a better chance to win than our Blk candidates Beasley, Barnes, and Demings

So, just giving S seats away isn't gonna happen and that's why Mark Kelly is gonna win he is Working class too, Sir Muhammad like to quote R talking points and nothing is final until we get a results, votes Casted not just Approvals, Approvals are HOGWASH because otherwise Trump wouldn't have netted seats twice in 2018/2020 with 44% approvals


Also as of note we have taken red states away from Rs outside of FL and TX, we won KS,  KY, LA, AZ and OH Sen 2018, WVa and MT because of the Cuban Embargo and the border wall, in TX and FL, is it definitely we're gonna win red states no it's not but is it plausible yes it is

If Ryan wins we can win 24 MT, OH and WVA

Sir Muhammad is just giving his opinion just like everyone else he is no expert

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

Vance is too far right for this seat

The dude is literally to the left of most of the GOP caucus on economics. What are you taking about?

[Huey Long is a Republican]

Vance is too far right for this seat

The dude is literally to the left of most of the GOP caucus on economics. What are you taking about?

He's so far left Reaganite PFPs are calling him a socialist on Twitter and whining about him. He just thinks all Republicans aligned with Trump are Far Right. Just ignore him.

[GALeftist]

Cards on the table here, I think a lot of Republicans online are drastically overestimating the environment that is about to occur. I understand that polling has had pretty frequent misses recently, so you might be inclined to ignore it for good reason, but I think that's led to a lot of people estimating the environment based on, like, vibes, and then just calling others fools for not getting the same vibes that they are. That is obviously problematic when polarization means that most people are probably spending most of their time around people who think like them.

With that being said, I think Tim Ryan has basically no chance if Vance has been staying away from kids. The math here is pretty simple: in 2018 Sherrod Brown won OH-Sen by 7 in a D+8 year. Now, let's be very generous and suppose that 2022 will have an even generic ballot (doubtful), Ryan is as good of a candidate as Brown (even more doubtful), and Vance is just as bad as Renacci (perhaps the most doubtful). Under those conditions, applying uniform swing, we'd still expect Vance to win. If anything, I suspect Ohio would be resilient against such a swing given it's sprinting rightward.

With that also being said, I am still glad he is running and even more glad that he seems to be trying. There will likely be three competitive House races in November, and DeWine is likely to romp. Without a credible race at the top of the ticket, I don't like our chances in any of those; if Ryan performs respectably statewide, we might have a shot in at least some.

[coloradocowboi]

Vance is too far right for this seat

I don't think so. Mandel would've 100% won because ppl don't care about "ideology"

JD's problem is that he is a documented soy boy suddenly running as a Trump Republican, notably funded by a billionaire whose hobby is collecting the body fluids of white, young men so he can attain immortality. He's a phony and everybody knows, which is why he couldn't even muster 1/3 of the primary vote even with $$$$ and the fuhrer's endorsement

[dunceDude]

Race is over, glad the consultants got paid though, Senator Vance will be a doozey.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Race is over, glad the consultants got paid though, Senator Vance will be a doozey.

If it's over show us a poll it's not over until they show us a poll or we vote

That's your opinion we only give opinion it's not fact's

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Vance is too far right for this seat

The dude is literally to the left of most of the GOP caucus on economics. What are you taking about?

Lol do you know who Vance is, he's a rubber stamp for Rs, they're against BBB, Climate change, Stimulus spending and they said they want to get rid of Filibuster in 24 to expunge impeachment from Trump record he isn't Tim Ryan, Ryan said he wants to expunge student loans

Obviously, you don't know what a Conservative Republican is

[OSR stands with Israel]

Tim Ryan is a great example of how fortune can often favor the bold.  Beginning with 2006, every cycle he was being heavily recruited to run for Governor or Senator, but Strickland and Brown boxed him out in 2006.  He kept waiting for a comparable national environment and basically blew it.  He should’ve either run for Senate in 2016.  That was the best shot he was gonna get and he turned it down.  

He wasn’t gonna beat Portman in 2016

[SevenEleven]

It's not going to matter, there is no way Republicans lose this seat even in a neutral year, let alone a GOP leaning one.

If this was a 6th year itch , Ryan probably would have had a chance of a huge upset here given not only Vance but how atrocious the entire primary field was here . Though Portman may not have retired in that case in which case it would still be Safe R

Given how far right Ohio has drifted, it's possible Republicans would still be favored in a GOP midterm, and even if Ryan were to pull it off, it'd be an obvious rental.

Two obvious Democratic rentals eh?