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« on: January 21, 2021, 06:12:22 PM »
« edited: January 21, 2021, 06:41:04 PM by TheReckoning »

In my opinion, no where near as bad as people who live on the coasts/in the north think.
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2021, 07:26:20 PM »
« Edited: January 21, 2021, 10:49:39 PM by End of an Error »

Way too hot, otherwise it's an alright state, although I've never been there, so don't take my opinion too seriously. They have the worst Senate delegation, though, neither a global warming truther who doesn't want people in the United States Navy Chaplain Corps who don't agree with his religious views, nor a neo-Confederate who jokes about lynching whilst whistling Dixie as she polishes a miniature statue of Jefferson Davis, should be allowed to serve in Congress.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2021, 07:30:12 PM »
« Edited: January 21, 2021, 08:20:38 PM by TexasGurl »

Way too hot, otherwise it's an alright state, although I've never been there, so don't take my opinion too seriously. They have the worst Senate delegation, though, neither a global warming truther who doesn't want people in the United States Navy Chaplain Corps who don't agree with his religious views, nor a neo-Confederate who jokes about lynching whilst whistling Dixie as she rubs a miniature statue of Jefferson Davis, should be allowed to serve in Congress.

And Trent Lott's tenure is still well within living memory. Ugh.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2021, 07:37:29 PM »

I will provide counterpoint to my prior post by noting the massive amount of great music that's come from the state, and the central role of the Delta blues in creating the broader American musical tradition since then. Where would we be as a species without Robert Johnson?
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2021, 07:43:54 PM »

As discovolante notes above, Mississippi has to get points for being the birthplace of modern popular music.

Beyond that, it is obviously one of the worst states politically. More than anything, though, its story is an extremely tragic one, with development on economic, social, and racial fronts held back by distrust sown among the population and persistent intolerant social attitudes. I remember being struck by this quote from Theodore H. White I read a while back on the Wikipedia article of Paul B. Johnson Jr., a Mississippi governor in the 1960s with a contradictory, ambivalent record on civil rights:

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This was no Northern cartoon of a Mississippi Governor; this was a man of civilization and dignity whose deep, serious voice spoke not cornpone but a cultured English—and spoke at once in fear, perplexity, and wistfulness. In his plight one could see half the tragedy of his state.
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2021, 08:21:37 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2021, 08:29:48 PM »

Not the worst state in the union imho, and i think that when doing an evaluation of a state, it is important to look at it how it is NOW, not nearly two hundred years ago, or even fifty years ago. It is important to acknowledge these things, but it is equally important to put that aside when doing a modern look
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2021, 09:33:59 PM »

I lived in Mississippi for just under a year. Obviously, that does not make me an expert on the state, but it definitely beat my (admittedly low) expectations.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2021, 09:37:42 PM »

Horrible state.
It can redeem itself next cycle but it won’t.
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2021, 11:15:36 PM »

Horrible state.
It can redeem itself next cycle but it won’t.

TFW states are horrible automatically when they don’t vote for your political party.
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2021, 11:23:32 PM »

Not the worst state in the union imho, and i think that when doing an evaluation of a state, it is important to look at it how it is NOW, not nearly two hundred years ago, or even fifty years ago. It is important to acknowledge these things, but it is equally important to put that aside when doing a modern look
50th in income,49th in life expectancy,49th in college attainment. It's in a terrible condition.
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2021, 11:25:45 PM »

Not the worst state in the union imho, and i think that when doing an evaluation of a state, it is important to look at it how it is NOW, not nearly two hundred years ago, or even fifty years ago. It is important to acknowledge these things, but it is equally important to put that aside when doing a modern look

Just curious, what is the worst state?
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2021, 11:29:27 PM »

Not the worst state in the union imho, and i think that when doing an evaluation of a state, it is important to look at it how it is NOW, not nearly two hundred years ago, or even fifty years ago. It is important to acknowledge these things, but it is equally important to put that aside when doing a modern look
50th in income,49th in life expectancy,49th in college attainment. It's in a terrible condition.
Also 1st in black population, many of them rural, and no federal government gravy train next door. There are historical inequalities that have yet to be made right, but sh**tting on the state and writing it off doesn't do a thing.
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2021, 11:35:15 PM »

Horrible state.
It can redeem itself next cycle but it won’t.

TFW states are horrible automatically when they don’t vote for your political party.
Correct.
Any state which does not vote for the American party is full of traitors and has little worth in my mind.
The states can change anytime they would like if they vote properly.
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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2021, 11:44:28 PM »


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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2021, 11:47:34 PM »

Massive Freedom State, but it's always kind of struck me as a slightly inferior twin of Alabama.  Both states have the same relative strengths and weaknesses, but Alabama is just slightly better in seemingly every category.
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2021, 11:48:28 PM »

This is certainly a state which could use a lot of help from a New Deal-type program. Looking back to the 2020 primaries, I find it somewhat unfortunate that my preferred candidate scrapped a planned visit to this state because he and his team apparently viewed it as a lost cause (regardless of how true that may have been, I still think a visit there could have helped him make inroads among a crucial bloc of voters he failed to win over, however small those inroads may have been).
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2021, 11:51:11 PM »

Not the worst state in the union imho, and i think that when doing an evaluation of a state, it is important to look at it how it is NOW, not nearly two hundred years ago, or even fifty years ago. It is important to acknowledge these things, but it is equally important to put that aside when doing a modern look
50th in income,49th in life expectancy,49th in college attainment. It's in a terrible condition.

1st in vaccination rates though.
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2021, 12:05:47 AM »

I've had quite a bit of fun in the Delta over the years, and oddly the state I got married in, but on the whole, not a state I'd want to live in. 
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2021, 01:17:51 AM »

Not the worst state in the union imho, and i think that when doing an evaluation of a state, it is important to look at it how it is NOW, not nearly two hundred years ago, or even fifty years ago. It is important to acknowledge these things, but it is equally important to put that aside when doing a modern look
50th in income,49th in life expectancy,49th in college attainment. It's in a terrible condition.
Also 1st in black population, many of them rural, and no federal government gravy train next door. There are historical inequalities that have yet to be made right, but sh**tting on the state and writing it off doesn't do a thing.

You know, I normally don't give woke answers like this, but quite honestly it might be able to be said that Mississippi's status is a s******* state is the fault of about 90% of the white people in that state.

Think about it. Other than maybe a decade or so of reconstruction, and then for another decade or two in the late 70s and 80s when blacks were at least somewhat adopted into the ruling Democratic party Coalition - - clearly is a junior member, but still - - Mississippi has been run by whites and, very importantly, for whites, for the last hundred fifty plus years it's sh**ty State of Affairs mentioned herein regarding poverty rates, education rights, Etc, are inordinately concentrated among its African-American residents. Let's be real clear that this was not coincidence. At all.

When one further considers that the best, and arguably only good parts of Mississippi culture, food and music, derive overwhelmingly from African American culture, I reiterate one can make the case that Mississippi is indeed a complete sh**tbag of a state, dead last when it comes to doing anything and everything right it seems, but again that can realistically the blame on the 90% of whites in that state who run it into the ground for a century and a half.
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2021, 01:48:46 AM »

Mississippi has a drainage basin of almost 3 million km² and, when combined with Missouri, is the fourth longest river in the world. So I don't know what to say except that it is colossal and majestic.
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2021, 02:08:09 AM »

Anything south of U.S. Route 30 east of the Rockies is horrible by default.
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2021, 02:34:41 AM »

HS. Even without the politics, everything south of 35N-ish is too hot and Mississippi is way too rural for my liking on top of it.
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2021, 11:19:09 AM »

Someone sell me on MS because it's hard to find much to like about it. The topography is mostly flat and boring and the natural features/amenities seem lacking, there aren't really any nice suburbs or smaller cities to live in (unlike Alabama), things seem a bit rundown almost everywhere I look (even in the neighborhoods with larger yards and bigger houses), school quality is poor, few notable major employers, etc.
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2021, 11:40:22 AM »

Someone sell me on MS because it's hard to find much to like about it. The topography is mostly flat and boring and the natural features/amenities seem lacking, there aren't really any nice suburbs or smaller cities to live in (unlike Alabama), things seem a bit rundown almost everywhere I look (even in the neighborhoods with larger yards and bigger houses), school quality is poor, few notable major employers, etc.

That's pretty much it.  The Gulf Coast is beach and casinos (two of my least favorite things).  The Delta is flat and poor.  The rest is piney woods and poor. The state would lose population if not for suburban Memphis (and may anyway) Again, I've had fun there and you can get an old house insanely cheap in places like Natchez, but day to day amenities and opportunities are lacking.
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