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Yoda
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« on: January 19, 2021, 12:35:16 AM »
« edited: January 19, 2021, 12:42:19 AM by Yoda »

The number of arrests of Capitol rioters is at like 400 now, so if it's only 100 then it won't include them. I'm sure this is just a standard batch of cronies along with a few people actually deserving of it thrown in as a 0.

I was (still am sorta I guess) worried about trump mass pardoning all the terrorists who stormed the Capitol. Seems silly now as I realize that most of these people can't afford the likely minimum 25k donation to trump's campaign or PAC, or 10K to a former trump aide to lobby on their behalf, that it would take to get one of these pardons. This list will be overwhelmingly white, male, rich, republican, well-connected, and criminal, with a few black rappers who praised trump thrown in as tokens.
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2021, 12:41:45 AM »

My suggestion is just that pardons and commutations are put on hold for 60 days or something (executions excepted) pending an optional review by Congress, whereby they can nullify by some large majority (2/3 rds?). This would leave the power open for any sane usage and avoid scenarios like pardoning every murderer for any crime they ever committed, and probably for less serious scenarios too like pardoning friends/family or other corrupt usage.

I've always found the pardon power to be grossly undemocratic and unbelievably ripe for abuse, and that was my view looong before trump. Instead of what you propose I've always thought that if someone truly deserved a pardon, the President could propose a pardon and both Houses of Congress would need something like 2/3 in favor for it to be approved (I'd settle for even a majority). In trump's case, this would have prevented all of his corrupt pardons to all his friends who colluded with Russians on his behalf and got caught, the murderer eddie gallagher, the blackwater butchers, etc.
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Yoda
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2021, 12:44:54 AM »




Uhhhh.....you probably should Rudy lol. I mean Rudy is absolutely covered in filth from the Ukraine scandal. Lev Parnas alone probably has enough info to put him away. This would be truly shocking if it turned out to be true.
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Yoda
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2021, 08:22:45 PM »

The number of arrests of Capitol rioters is at like 400 now, so if it's only 100 then it won't include them. I'm sure this is just a standard batch of cronies along with a few people actually deserving of it thrown in as a 0.

I was (still am sorta I guess) worried about trump mass pardoning all the terrorists who stormed the Capitol. Seems silly now as I realize that most of these people can't afford the likely minimum 25k donation to trump's campaign or PAC, or 10K to a former trump aide to lobby on their behalf, that it would take to get one of these pardons. This list will be overwhelmingly white, male, rich, republican, well-connected, and criminal, with a few black rappers who praised trump thrown in as tokens.

I'm not so sure about that. Remember from what we've seen thus far most of these rioters had solid middle to upper middle class jobs. Podium guy was the stay-at-home house husband of a doctor. Another dude was the CEO of a suburban Chicago internet company. Then there's that rich Karen realtor from Texas.

If I was their attorneys and knowing to what degree their asses are on the line facing federal charges, I'd be having a come-to-jesus meeting with them to ask the simple question, how much is your freedom worth to you? Then start writing checks like a mofo to whichever fixer I knew could likely get the job done.

And my greatest fear is that's exactly what is happening. We get Buffalo boy, but most of the bastards escape.

Oh for sure, I'm very aware that a lot of these terrorists have the McMansion in Texas, a 50k Ford F-150, 10-20k in TactiCoolTM gear so they can cosplay as paramilitary goons (b/c they are too cowardly to join or too fat to be allowed into the military), and bought round trip airline tickets and booked rooms at the trump international hotel. Still, I don't think the vast majority of them have the liquid resources and connections necessary to play (and I was admittedly likely low-balling it by a lot with the 25K figure) the kind of big-boy ball you need to to get on trump's pardon radar. These nazi mf's are about to learn the hard truth that trump did the exact opposite of Drain The Swamp. Naked, Pay-to-Play corruption never been so alive and well in DC.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2021, 08:30:07 PM »

Well, can't vouch for the accuracy of this article of course (I wonder if maybe his lawyers are leaking like a bum toilet), but here is the back story of the Trump mind if, as suggested here, Trump's pardon list is anti-climatic.

The "shocker" here, to the extent there is one, is that some Pub lawmakers allegedly sought pardons, or clemency. What? What is that all about?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/trump-self-pardon-warning/index.html

Yeh, read that a little bit ago. I, too, am intensely interested in which republican lawmakers know that they committed crimes and sought a pardon to escape any consequence of said crimes.
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2021, 03:04:32 PM »

Last minute pardon of Jeanine Pirro's ex-husband.

Trump’s final act as president: Pardoning Jeanine Pirro’s ex-husband

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With just over 30 minutes left in his presidency, now-former President Trump issued a full pardon to Albert J. Pirro, Jr., ex-husband of Fox News firebrand and Trump defender Jeanine Pirro.

Why it matters: This was Trump's final act as president, and he issued the pardon during the inauguration of Joe Biden.

Details: Albert Pirro was sentenced to 29 months in federal prison in 2000 on charges of conspiracy and tax evasion.

https://www.axios.com/trumps-jeanine-pirros-ex-husband-75c9d534-a5a7-40ea-9226-10d6c03e03b6.html

So he already served his sentence?
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