DC statehood Megathread (pg 33 - Manchin questioning constitutionality)

[Ron DeSantis enthusiast]

It was NID he was going to vote in party line in most important democratic legislation, GOP needs to stop this "Manchin isn't going to vote for x thing", he will.

[Ron DeSantis enthusiast]

It was NID he was going to vote in party line in most important democratic legislation, GOP needs to stop this "Manchin isn't going to vote for x thing", he will.

Yeah, this talking point was always just delusion and/or wishful thinking from many Republicans and progressives alike. Manchin is a reliable vote for the de-facto elimination of the filibuster (although it’s cute that people are somehow still falling for this even after he literally voted to impeach Trump, bashed Trump and his voters after Biden's election/WV almost gave him 70% of the vote, and waited until Collins had announced to declare his support for Kavanaugh, etc.). Shows you just how gullible people are, mostly but not exclusively on the Republican side (see: Collins, Sununu, Garcia, ...).

He is very smart to keep his "moderate" status, but when it matters, he always vote party line. Like you said, he only vote for Kavanaugh because they had the votes and he waited for Collins, also his 60% Trump record it's mostly because republicans have the votes and he needs to look bipartisan.

[Ron DeSantis enthusiast]

It was NID he was going to vote in party line in most important democratic legislation, GOP needs to stop this "Manchin isn't going to vote for x thing", he will.

Yeah, this talking point was always just delusion and/or wishful thinking from many Republicans and progressives alike. Manchin is a reliable vote for the de-facto elimination of the filibuster (although it’s cute that people are somehow still falling for this even after he literally voted to impeach Trump, bashed Trump and his voters after Biden's election/WV almost gave him 70% of the vote, and waited until Collins had announced to declare his support for Kavanaugh, etc.). Shows you just how gullible people are, mostly but not exclusively on the Republican side (see: Collins, Sununu, Garcia, ...).

He is very smart to keep his "moderate" status, but when it matters, he always vote party line. Like you said, he only vote for Kavanaugh because they had the votes and he waited for Collins, also his 60% Trump record it's mostly because republicans have the votes and he needs to look bipartisan.

Republicans and Trump supporters like AncestralDemocrat who voted for him in 2018 have no one but themselves to blame for what’s about to happen right now. Manchin has always had nothing but contempt for his own constituents, if they’re too dumb to realize that even when his voting record/previous actions/endorsements/statements have made that abundantly clear, they have to (and will) pay the price for their ignorance.

Tbf also Morrisey was a very weak candidate

[Ron DeSantis enthusiast]

Tbf also Morrisey was a very weak candidate

Democrats in Clinton +>40 states (or Clinton +>3 states, for that matter) don’t send Republicans to the Senate just because the Democrat is a 'weak candidate.' Maybe red state voters should get their priorities straight.

I agree with you, I would vote for a weak republican all day long.

[Ron DeSantis enthusiast]

Tbf also Morrisey was a very weak candidate

Democrats in Clinton +>40 states (or Clinton +>3 states, for that matter) don’t send Republicans to the Senate just because the Democrat is a 'weak candidate.' Maybe red state voters should get their priorities straight.

Tbh an interesting but probably not talked enough about phenomenon is how Republican states are more comfortable than Democratic states sending Dem senators to Washington; while for governors it is the exact opposite, and it's Democratic states the ones that seem more comfortable sending Republican governors to their state capitol

Though maybe this is a wrong impression

There are only three democratic senators in all the states that voted for Trump (Tester, Manchin and Brown) and there are three republican senators in all the states that voted for Biden (Johnson, Toomey and Collins), but tbf only Maine is a blue state, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are more purple than blue.