DC statehood Megathread (pg 33 - Manchin questioning constitutionality)

[MT Treasurer]

It was NID he was going to vote in party line in most important democratic legislation, GOP needs to stop this "Manchin isn't going to vote for x thing", he will.

Yeah, this talking point was always just delusion and/or wishful thinking from many Republicans and progressives alike. Manchin is a reliable vote for the de-facto elimination of the filibuster (although it’s cute that people are somehow still falling for this even after he literally voted to impeach Trump, bashed Trump and his voters after Biden's election/WV almost gave him 70% of the vote, and waited until Collins had announced to declare his support for Kavanaugh, etc.). Shows you just how gullible people are, mostly but not exclusively on the Republican side (see: Collins, Sununu, Garcia, ...).

[MT Treasurer]

It was NID he was going to vote in party line in most important democratic legislation, GOP needs to stop this "Manchin isn't going to vote for x thing", he will.

Yeah, this talking point was always just delusion and/or wishful thinking from many Republicans and progressives alike. Manchin is a reliable vote for the de-facto elimination of the filibuster (although it’s cute that people are somehow still falling for this even after he literally voted to impeach Trump, bashed Trump and his voters after Biden's election/WV almost gave him 70% of the vote, and waited until Collins had announced to declare his support for Kavanaugh, etc.). Shows you just how gullible people are, mostly but not exclusively on the Republican side (see: Collins, Sununu, Garcia, ...).

He is very smart to keep his "moderate" status, but when it matters, he always vote party line. Like you said, he only vote for Kavanaugh because they had the votes and he waited for Collins, also his 60% Trump record it's mostly because republicans have the votes and he needs to look bipartisan.

Republicans and Trump supporters like AncestralDemocrat who voted for him in 2018 have no one but themselves to blame for what’s about to happen right now. Manchin has always had nothing but contempt for his own constituents, if they’re too dumb to realize that even when his voting record/previous actions/endorsements/statements have made that abundantly clear, they have to (and will) pay the price for their ignorance.

[MT Treasurer]

Tbf also Morrisey was a very weak candidate

Democrats in Clinton +>40 states (or Clinton +>3 states, for that matter) don’t send Republicans to the Senate just because the Democrat is a 'weak candidate.' Maybe red state voters should get their priorities straight.

[MT Treasurer]

And you are lying to yourself when you say you aren’t politically motivated against DC statehood.
Yeah I admit it, we want DC statehood for the senators, deal with it, your side is far worse and this is payback for your destruction of the country. I don’t care how you feel.

It’s going to be so hilarious if you people add DC (and maybe even PR) and still lose the Senate in 2022. The next R trifecta is going to be glorious beyond words.

[MT Treasurer]

And you are lying to yourself when you say you aren’t politically motivated against DC statehood.
Yeah I admit it, we want DC statehood for the senators, deal with it, your side is far worse and this is payback for your destruction of the country. I don’t care how you feel.

It’s going to be so hilarious if you people add DC (and maybe even PR) and still lose the Senate in 2022. The next R trifecta is going to be glorious beyond words.

What, glorious like the last one that did practically nothing?

Oh, the next one won’t be as incompetent as this one, trust me.

[MT Treasurer]

It just makes sense for Manchin to vote for DC statehood. Democrats will be able to pass progressive legislation without him that way, so he can vote however he likes to keep his WV constituents pleased.

Hahaha, he’s not going to get away with this.

[MT Treasurer]

For reference, this is where we currently are.

There's a small chance ceratin Rs vote for it but they are unlikely to do that unless it has already passed.

The lighter green means they have indicated support but aren't an official co-sponsor. Carper for instance is a sponsor and the one who has introduced the bill but is technically not a co-sponsor.

...Angus King? More likely that Susan Collins votes for this than King votes against it (esp. if he’s the deciding vote).

(not that Manchin's and Sinema's votes are really in doubt either, but King is even more absurd)

[MT Treasurer]

Having the votes for this is like having the votes for the tax cuts. This is the bare minimum major legislative item.

Yeah, I’d be shocked if this didn’t pass (obviously after the filibuster is nuked [de facto]) this year. Needless to say, DC is more likely to get admitted than PR.

[MT Treasurer]

Do we know the how Manchin & Sinema feel about DC statehood?

Do we know how Toomey & Rubio feel about DC statehood?

[MT Treasurer]

^Lol what?

1) Any D.C. statehood bill isn’t going to receive major (if any) R support for incredibly obvious reasons. You’d have more of a point if this was about Puerto Rico, but nothing Republicans might do will allow them to be competitive in D.C.

2) Persuadable minority voters in swing/winnable states/districts don’t care about D.C. statehood. This sounds like something some NRSC intern would post in a press release, LMAO.

3) My point was that Manchin's vote on this is about as much "in doubt" as Toomey's is. I realize that the same gullible people will never stop falling for his tiresome, tiresome shtick, though.

[MT Treasurer]

Hey Indyrep, where are you? You can’t hold forever! How’s the Manchin being a partisan Dem going?

Late to the party, but nothing more amusing than when people turn a flagrant display of their own ignorance into some clumsy attempt at an "own." Manchin’s gonna vote exactly the way Schumer tells him to, so either (a) his supposed "concerns" are (as usual) meaningless performance art or (b) Schumer/D leadership aren’t fully behind this, at least not yet.