Marjorie Taylor Greene craziness megathread

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I'd actually suggest putting this up for a vote just to see how hackish/partisan republicans really are. Could be a tough vote for some of the members

Same. Put them on record. I want to see who wouldn't vote to impeach trump over sending a terrorist mob to kill the VP and Congressmen, but who will vote to impeach Biden over nothing.

I hate to say it, but this is an easy out for all too many Republican Congress members. Very very few I believe would be threaten to buy a serious primary challenge over this, or otherwise be among the crazy caucus like MTG, Jordan, Etc.

Instead, it gives them a total straw man to knock down and then trumpet about how bipartisan and reasonable they are for not supporting a resolution stemming from literal mental illness. It effectively give them cover as being so-called middle of the road and reasonable despite voting against impeachment today on the flimsiest of pretexts.

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I haven’t paid enough attention to MTG to determine if she’s an idiot or just cynical and shameless.

Is she a Cruz or a Gohmert?

Absolutely the latter. She is a thousand yard stare True Believer.

 I don't think she's an idiot so much as legitimately mentally ill. Undiagnosed schizophrenia of some level would be my armchair diagnosis.

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OK so what abuse of power did the president-elect perpetrate while not in office yet?

Electoral fraud, duh!

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She’s also apparently a 9/11 truther

Totally don't doubt it, but do you have a link?

This is the kind of stuff that theoretically should be able to sink her in a Republican primary. You'd think blaming the Bush Administration - - regardless of how unpopular he currently is even among Republicans - - of propagating 911 rather than those damn Muslim terrorists would be super unpopular in North Georgia, even in the age of qanon.

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Just once in my lifetime I'd like to see a president who doesn't have members of the opposing party calling for his impeachment before his term even begins

Did that actually happen 4 years ago?

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Just once in my lifetime I'd like to see a president who doesn't have members of the opposing party calling for his impeachment before his term even begins

Did that actually happen 4 years ago?

Um, yes? Are you paying attention at all?

Because you seemed so sure about your answer I looked it up.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_Donald_Trump....

There were efforts to try to get Trump to disclose his finances and other steps. But no real actual call for impeachment to speak of.

And yes, I've been paying extremely close attention 2 going ons for the last 40 years, so no need to be such a jerk about it in your answer.

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How long 'til she loses her committee seats? I say the over/under is 6 months.

She's done nothing to lose them.

If she has, I could easily make the same statement about Ayanna Pressley for starters.  And Cori Bush.  She's edgy and over-the-top, but she's done nothing to justify such a remedy.  You don't have to support her, but her constituents deserve to have the person they elected to Congress represent them.

YOU don't like her.  Fine!  You can call her an HP to your heart's content.  When you begin to advocate the same for nutty Democrats let me know.  Then, and only then, may you have something.

Ayanna Pressley, although she's well to my left, isn't a QAnon adherent or an anti-masker like Greene is. And she hasn't engaged in showboating of the kind that Greene has.

Pressley has stated that the unrest in the streets should continue "for as long as there is unrest in our lives".  Please don't tell me that this isn't "fanning the flames".  If that's not "showboating", tell me what it is.  It's a call for continued violence, and it really isn't hidden.

Pressley condemned the violence last year, as did most Democrats-including Joe Biden-and like most Democrats, has called for legislation to address issues of police brutality and racial profiling. And she made it clear that she was supportive of peaceful protests against police brutality, and made reference to the late John Lewis, with the Freedom Rides as an antecedent to the protests we've seen in more recent times.

Guys, don't even bother responding to fuzzy bear with these undeniable facts. They have been pointed out to him literally dozens of times with links such as this, an. every single time he absolutely ignores them as if the words simply were never typed at all.

All responding to him does is convince him his posts are still somehow relevant as the "legitimate conservative argument opposite the Liberal's misguided point of view", and forces those of us who long ago put him on ignore to actually read his drivel nonetheless.

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How long 'til she loses her committee seats? I say the over/under is 6 months.

She's done nothing to lose them.

If she has, I could easily make the same statement about Ayanna Pressley for starters.  And Cori Bush.  She's edgy and over-the-top, but she's done nothing to justify such a remedy.  You don't have to support her, but her constituents deserve to have the person they elected to Congress represent them.

YOU don't like her.  Fine!  You can call her an HP to your heart's content.  When you begin to advocate the same for nutty Democrats let me know.  Then, and only then, may you have something.

Ayanna Pressley, although she's well to my left, isn't a QAnon adherent or an anti-masker like Greene is. And she hasn't engaged in showboating of the kind that Greene has.

Pressley has stated that the unrest in the streets should continue "for as long as there is unrest in our lives".  Please don't tell me that this isn't "fanning the flames".  If that's not "showboating", tell me what it is.  It's a call for continued violence, and it really isn't hidden.

Pressley condemned the violence last year, as did most Democrats-including Joe Biden-and like most Democrats, has called for legislation to address issues of police brutality and racial profiling. And she made it clear that she was supportive of peaceful protests against police brutality, and made reference to the late John Lewis, with the Freedom Rides as an antecedent to the protests we've seen in more recent times.

Guys, don't even bother responding to fuzzy bear with these undeniable facts. They have been pointed out to him literally dozens of times with links such as this, an. every single time he absolutely ignores them as if the words simply were never typed at all.

All responding to him does is convince him his posts are still somehow relevant as the legitimate conservative argument opposite the Liberal's point of view", and forces those of us who long ago put him on ignore to actually read his drivel nonetheless.

I made note of this the other day, and I've grown to understand more why many posters on here dislike him. But I wanted to make sure that I got my points across, and that I answered him.

Cal oh, you are as good and it's patient a man on this site. More so than I I readily admit. But again, this has been pointed out to fuzzy bear more times that I literally can count, with accompanying links. And every. Single. Time. Without. Fail. He chooses to completely ignore and reiterate his yammering unperturbed. He doesn't even ADDRESS the the facts and links presented to him, again without fail.

I have long come to the point it is best if everyone on this site would have merely put him on ignore, and let him go off in his little fantasy world about being a Trumpist Diogenes self-righteously searching for one wise man who can only see the obvious election fraud that only he is unblinded Enough by the liberal mainstream media to perceive.

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I think she's mentally ill. That has to be the only explanation.

This is often said as a joke but I legitimately do have mentally ill friends who are far less unmoored from reality than this woman. I think mental illness is a part of the picture perhaps but it's a very insidious combination of things in America which is causing an increasingly large number of people to behave like her.

I'm very close to someone with multiple comorbid dissociative and psychotic conditions and she's nowhere near as far gone as MTG. Her oddest views are all just speculative Christian theological concepts. Mental illness is really no excuse.

I find some of her beliefs like "forest fires are caused by  secret space lasers built by the jews", " "Zionist supremacists are conspiring to flood Europe with migrants to replace the native white populations", "was murdered by  MS-13 henchmen on behalf of Barack Obama" or especially "it's perfectly fine to harass school shooting survivors because they're crisis actor hired by Nazijew Jewrge Soros" and "I like posting memes about murdering my fellow Representatives because they happen to be commie traitors" to be a little more worrying and/or weird than whatever fundamentalist christian weird crap she may believe in

Sorry, I meant that my friend's oddest views are just speculative Christian theological concepts, as opposed to MTG who believes in way crazier and more dangerous stuff despite probably being "saner".

I mean, at the risk of playing armchair psychiatrist, isn't that perhaps indicative that MTG is indeed bona fide mentally ill even if at least superficially high functioning, rather than merely eccentric and a sucker for every conspiracy theory on the right-wing blogosphere?

I mean, I get it that because she's a white blond lady people are far more willing to write off her embracing Bizarro conspiracy theories that often cross the line into being outright homicidal as " mental illness", whereas say a black or Latino gang banger shoots up a street corner, or some radicalized Muslim commits an act of violent terrorism they are inevitably just written off as evil and / or religious fanatics. But notwithstanding that cultural double standard, doesn't everything this woman proclaims scream that she is still legitimately crazy?

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She raised 1.6m in a week from all 50 states lol

Well, yeah, there are a lot of genuinely bad people in this country. Similarly crankish and violent leftist candidates have raised a ton of money from small donors too, they just tend not to actually win races.

At the risk of being pedantic since you noted that such " similarly cranky and violent leftist candidates" usually don't actually get elected, can you identify even a single such failed candidate as a left-wing equivalent to MTG?

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She raised 1.6m in a week from all 50 states lol

Well, yeah, there are a lot of genuinely bad people in this country. Similarly crankish and violent leftist candidates have raised a ton of money from small donors too, they just tend not to actually win races.

At the risk of being pedantic since you noted that such " similarly cranky and violent leftist candidates" usually don't actually get elected, can you identify even a single such failed candidate as a left-wing equivalent to MTG?

Who was that crazy Twitter guy who ran in WA-10, raised a ton of money, and got like 1,000 votes?

Also that LaRouchian who won a Democratic primary in Texas somehow a few years ago.

Not familiar with the Washington dude. Such candidates like the larouche types seem to be more of a random sh**thappens event rather than an actual left-wing counterpart to qanon

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Folks, kindly don't engage fuzzy further. At this point his posting regarding delusions of election fraud have degenerated to the level of an incontinent chimp throwing its never-ending stream of poop against the wall.

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I just think it's hilarious she's actually from Alpharetta. To be a fly on a wall on some of those PTA meetings or whatever. I wonder how many playdates her kids have been dis invited from.

"Mommy, why can't I go over to * insert kid's name* 's house?"
"Because his mommy thinks forest fires come from space laser beams"

Jewish space laser beams.

Speaking of MTG's children, this was supposedly posted on FB by her daughter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvBwD8M8LR0

I can't figure out if this is a hoax from someone not actually her daughter, crazy not falling far from the crazy tree, or a brilliant version of Claudia Conway trolling her psycho mom.

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https://twitter.com/LeaderHoyer/status/1357012103345938434

The Republican party is held hostage by absolute Wingnuts and extremists, chapter 3727.

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It appears IndyRep may have gotten his wish, because the Democratic Leadership is really hammering on the Q thing.

Is this really going to stick though? The GOP has called every Democrat that walked for the past decade  a socialist, and it doesn't really move the needle much. I'm not sure calling every Republican that walks QAnon is going to move the needle much either

Republicans have nothing to back up calling Democrats socialists, so it isn't effective. The public has had an opportunity to do see that many Republicans are either connected to Q-Anon or unwilling to condemn it.

The socialist label has stuck much better since Democrats actually began calling themselves socialists.

These ads don't just happen in a vacuum.  The GOP tests them and knows they're effective.  And if you talk to real voters you will see that.

You are both correct anyways. The Socialist label doesn't stick when thrown against Democrats to whom it clearly doesn't apply such as Joe Biden. However, MacArthur is probably more right in that the association of so-called socialist in the Democratic party can damage the party as a whole. Biden unquestionably lost votes due to voters concerns that folks like the squad and Bernie Sanders were going to call the shots once " sleepy Joe" was elected.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/537235-mccarthy-announces-no-actions-against-greene

Surprising no one. I don't understand how McCarthy became the House GOP leader. He comes across as very weak and it shows when he lets a freshman rep railroad him.

Hey now! Leader McCarthy gave MTG a very stern talking-to and finger wagging. Any problems with her being an untreated schizophrenic who believes in Jewish space lasers are obviously now over.

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https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1357113827977031686

weird that he says "just for context", but then doesn't provide the context.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/537263-greene-apologizes-to-gop-colleagues-and-gets-standing-ovation

Some sources are reporting that she did in fact dismiss any idea that the school shootings were fake.  Conflicting reports on exactly what was said.

The self-evident context is she is a stark raving loon.

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MTG is so hilarious. We need more people like her.

Terrible poster makes terrible post. News 11.

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Yack, yack, yack, yack. End of debate means end of debate which means there is no need to keep replying. You wasted your time scouring Wikipedia, because I simply do not agree with you.

The doesn't mean you're right, it means you lack the desire to further defend your position. You don't have to make any posts you don't want to, but others are perfectly free to defend their positions.

Except in this case Santander was dead wrong.

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I am fully convinced that she genuinely has mental problems and needs psychiatric help. Sane people do not act like this.

Untreated schizophrenia masquerading as staunch conservatism. That's the Trump era GOP in a nutshell.

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I am fully convinced that she genuinely has mental problems and needs psychiatric help. Sane people do not act like this.

Untreated schizophrenia masquerading as staunch conservatism. That's the Trump era GOP in a nutshell.

There are undoubtedly some distinctions among the crazy cohort.  This is how I currently size them up:

Excessively stupid - Gohmert
True MAGA fanatic - Boebert
Cynical, pretend MAGA believer - Cawthorn, Gaetz
Genuinely insane - Greene, Gosar

I submit Cawthorn and Gaetz equally belong in both the MAGA fanatic category.  Being a bonafide grifter This is hardly contrary towards being a maga fanatic