Marjorie Taylor Greene craziness megathread

[Hammy]

I am asking seriously: has anyone found any conspiracy theory Marjorie Taylor Greene DOESN'T believe?

https://twitter.com/nicoleperlroth/status/1355399424160063489

Since Republicans aren't doing anything to refute this, let's also call on them to live up to this and end the War on Terror, Homeland Security Department, Anti-Muslim policies, and all their other excessive constitution-defying "security" measures that came about as a result. If they aren't calling her out, they're saying none of these things they supported were ever needed.

[Fuzzy Bear]

How long 'til she loses her committee seats? I say the over/under is 6 months.

She's done nothing to lose them.

If she has, I could easily make the same statement about Ayanna Pressley for starters.  And Cori Bush.  She's edgy and over-the-top, but she's done nothing to justify such a remedy.  You don't have to support her, but her constituents deserve to have the person they elected to Congress represent them.

YOU don't like her.  Fine!  You can call her an HP to your heart's content.  When you begin to advocate the same for nutty Democrats let me know.  Then, and only then, may you have something.

Okay, I'm not even gonna bother getting into the pure inaneness of what you just wrote here because Calthrina950 has already done so perfectly, not that you're actually gonna listen to or give a sh*t about what he said. No, what I'm just perturbed by is the fact that the first 2 Squad members who immediately came to mind for you when you thought of who to most intensely focus on persecuting just so happened to be the 2 who are Black women. Surely a coincidence...

The entire "Squad" is composed of someone that would be considered as coming from a "marginalized group".  Is it not possible to criticize these people without being accused of racism?

There is much to criticize about each and every member of the Squad.  They have advocated for the continuing of "unrest" in the streets while denying the fact that the "unrest" is due to violent demonstrations by groups they condone.  That ought to be criticized no matter who does that, and the perpetrators ought to be mentioned by name.

I will note this:  I have had posts moderated for "excessive hyperbole" for the mere mention of the role of BLM and Antifa in violence.  I don't see anyone doing the same for those who relentlessly mention Qanon.  If Qanon members commit crimes they should be arrested, and if they do it in the name of Qanon that should be highlighted.  Called out.  But I'd kindly suggest that much of the ranting about Qanon here rises to the level of Excessive Hyperbole by the standards of moderation here. 

[VAR]

https://twitter.com/rpyers/status/1355298843085037568

Hahahahaha

[Fuzzy Bear]

I don't think anyone should be canceled (or booted from Congress) for liking a tweet or believing a conspiracy theory. Her words on video are pretty out there though. But I think something needs to happen post election to take that next step.

The "Jewish Space Lasers" comments were just too much to take.

I do not believe that she should be expelled from Congress.  She hasn't committed any crime.  And it's NOT a crime to hold wacky beliefs; this is a principle that needs to be affirmed and reaffirmed by both sides of the Spectrum.  On the other hand, she shouldn't be given any significant committee assignments.  Indeed, if she were stripped of all of her committee assignments I would not be raising the objections.

[Hermit For Peace]

She was the person in school nobody liked because they were too combative and simply unlikable.

[Fuzzy Bear]

How long 'til she loses her committee seats? I say the over/under is 6 months.

She's done nothing to lose them.

If she has, I could easily make the same statement about Ayanna Pressley for starters.  And Cori Bush.  She's edgy and over-the-top, but she's done nothing to justify such a remedy.  You don't have to support her, but her constituents deserve to have the person they elected to Congress represent them.

YOU don't like her.  Fine!  You can call her an HP to your heart's content.  When you begin to advocate the same for nutty Democrats let me know.  Then, and only then, may you have something.

Okay, I'm not even gonna bother getting into the pure inaneness of what you just wrote here because Calthrina950 has already done so perfectly, not that you're actually gonna listen to or give a sh*t about what he said. No, what I'm just perturbed by is the fact that the first 2 Squad members who immediately came to mind for you when you thought of who to most intensely focus on persecuting just so happened to be the 2 who are Black women. Surely a coincidence...

While your response to me was, quite frankly, unjustified and unfair, I have just read MTG's "Jewish Space Lasers" gem, which seals the deal for me.  She's not quite at the level of the Grand Mufti, but I certainly would like to see her resign (although that's probably not happening) and I do think that the GOP should deal with her in the same manner as they dealt with Steve King.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

MTG has to be on some good sh!t.

Congratulations to the fine people of Georgia's 14th district for literally electing /pol/ to Congress.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

[HAnnA MArin County]

Expelling her from Congress is exactly what this grifter wants! She has no desire (or intellect) to legislate or do anything meaningful for her district; all she wants is attention. This seems to be the going rate for the fascists in today's Trump Party:

1. Say or do something to trigger the libs
2. "Liberal" media (driven by ratings and clicks/likes/hits/etc.) picks up the story and helps sensationalize it. Controversy is created. Social media goes crazy.
3. Democrats take the bait and speak out about typical GOP batsh**ttery.
4. Fox News/Right-wing echo chambers swoop in and spin it as AOC SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS & BIG TECH TRYING TO CENSOR CONSERVATIVES!!!!!!!!!1
5. GOP politicians pitches "controversy" as a fundraising email (see Josh Hawley). OWN THE LIBS!
6. Repeat in 24 hours.

The problem here isn't necessarily fascist deplorables like MTG, Batcrap Boebert, etc.; it's the media. They need to stop giving these clowns the airtime and attention that they want, but all they care about is money and selling papers, ratings, etc. It really is a love-hate relationship between the so-called "liberal media elites" and the so-called Republican Party.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

The GOP could expel her from the Caucus.  She could respond by collecting a paycheck for doing nothing for 2 years, but that might be a good thing.

For those of you that view MTG as an aberration, remember that her election is very much in the spirit of democracy.  There is a reason the Founders limited popular election of Federal officials solely to the House of Representatives; they believed that "the people" would elect all sorts of MTGs.  It's one of a number of reasons of why the Founders opted for a bi-cameral legislature.

It's also a reason why we are not a "democracy", but a REPUBLIC.  Our Republic has, to be sure, democratic features, but we are not a "democracy".  The "Guaranty Clause" guarantees that each state will have a "republican form of government", and not a "democratic form of government".  The older I get the more appreciative of this principle I become.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

The GOP could expel her from the Caucus.  She could respond by collecting a paycheck for doing nothing for 2 years, but that might be a good thing.

For those of you that view MTG as an aberration, remember that her election is very much in the spirit of democracy.  There is a reason the Founders limited popular election of Federal officials solely to the House of Representatives; they believed that "the people" would elect all sorts of MTGs.  It's one of a number of reasons of why the Founders opted for a bi-cameral legislature.

It's also a reason why we are not a "democracy", but a REPUBLIC.  Our Republic has, to be sure, democratic features, but we are not a "democracy".  The "Guaranty Clause" guarantees that each state will have a "republican form of government", and not a "democratic form of government".  The older I get the more appreciative of this principle I become.

I broadly agree in the abstract, but I feel MTG is in a league of her own ("execute Pelosi for treason" and so on). They shouldn't be used as reason to expel her for now because they predate her tenure in office, but...I don't think that kind of rhetoric ought to be all fine and dandy from an elected member of Congress.
I guess I should clarify that an apology would be enough to head off such an expulsion, but would MTG be the type to be willing to do that?

[AtorBoltox]

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

The GOP could expel her from the Caucus.  She could respond by collecting a paycheck for doing nothing for 2 years, but that might be a good thing.

For those of you that view MTG as an aberration, remember that her election is very much in the spirit of democracy.  There is a reason the Founders limited popular election of Federal officials solely to the House of Representatives; they believed that "the people" would elect all sorts of MTGs.  It's one of a number of reasons of why the Founders opted for a bi-cameral legislature.

It's also a reason why we are not a "democracy", but a REPUBLIC.  Our Republic has, to be sure, democratic features, but we are not a "democracy".  The "Guaranty Clause" guarantees that each state will have a "republican form of government", and not a "democratic form of government".  The older I get the more appreciative of this principle I become.

The words democracy and republic are not mutually exclusive. America was founded and remains a democratic republic

[roxas11]

even if Marjorie Taylor Greene is expelled or removed from office it wont matter in the end because  the people in her district will simply pick somebody else that is even crazier than she currently is just to "own the lib's and the media"


love her or hate Marjorie Taylor Greene is perfect representation of her district and removing her will not solve anyhing nor will it address the reason her district voted for somebody like her in the first place

Marjorie Taylor Greene is just a symptom of a larger problem

unless we can find a realistic way to combat the conspiracy theories and stop the radicalization that we are seeing on social media  I fear we will see even more people like Marjorie Taylor Greene heading to Congress in the future....

[Fuzzy Bear]

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

The GOP could expel her from the Caucus.  She could respond by collecting a paycheck for doing nothing for 2 years, but that might be a good thing.

For those of you that view MTG as an aberration, remember that her election is very much in the spirit of democracy.  There is a reason the Founders limited popular election of Federal officials solely to the House of Representatives; they believed that "the people" would elect all sorts of MTGs.  It's one of a number of reasons of why the Founders opted for a bi-cameral legislature.

It's also a reason why we are not a "democracy", but a REPUBLIC.  Our Republic has, to be sure, democratic features, but we are not a "democracy".  The "Guaranty Clause" guarantees that each state will have a "republican form of government", and not a "democratic form of government".  The older I get the more appreciative of this principle I become.

The words democracy and republic are not mutually exclusive. America was founded and remains a democratic republic

"Yes" to the first sentence.  An emphatic "No" to the second.  Although I would agree that our Republic has democratic features.

It was not until 1828 that a candidate ran as a "Democrat".  This was a radical name in 1800; indeed, the "Democratic-Republican" party of Jefferson was not the party that became the "Democratic Party" of today.  That party was generally known as the "Republicans" or the "Jeffersonian Republicans, and their main concern was to preserve the REPUBLIC (emphasis added) against the allegedly authoritarian Federalist Party.  They were called "Democrats" and the "Democratic Party" at times, but that was used as an insult.  Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe would have no more run as "Democrats" than JFK, LBJ, HHH, and McGovern would have ran as "Socialists".  

It was not until 1913 that we had direct popular election of US Senators.  To this day, I'm not sure that this has been a good thing.  I certainly don't believe that the overall quality of Senators has improved much (although I do agree that some of the greatest reformers would not have been elected to the Senate had there not been popular election of Senators).  

[Virginiá]

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

The GOP could expel her from the Caucus.  She could respond by collecting a paycheck for doing nothing for 2 years, but that might be a good thing.

For those of you that view MTG as an aberration, remember that her election is very much in the spirit of democracy.  There is a reason the Founders limited popular election of Federal officials solely to the House of Representatives; they believed that "the people" would elect all sorts of MTGs.  It's one of a number of reasons of why the Founders opted for a bi-cameral legislature.

It's also a reason why we are not a "democracy", but a REPUBLIC.  Our Republic has, to be sure, democratic features, but we are not a "democracy".  The "Guaranty Clause" guarantees that each state will have a "republican form of government", and not a "democratic form of government".  The older I get the more appreciative of this principle I become.

The words democracy and republic are not mutually exclusive. America was founded and remains a democratic republic

I've really come to hate the statement "we're a republic, not a democracy." This country functions as a republic and representative democracy, and direct Congressional elections are constitutionally enshrined as such. So what exactly is the point of that statement? To illustrate that having people vote on every single government action is bad? Yeah, I think it would be bad, but we don't do it anyway, so whatever. We the people sure do elect representatives to make and execute the law, though.

It seems like 90% of the time I see that statement on the internet, it's just some conservative trying to explain why their attempts to try and rig an election in their favor (or steal it after the fact) is somehow justifiable, because something something republic.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

The GOP could expel her from the Caucus.  She could respond by collecting a paycheck for doing nothing for 2 years, but that might be a good thing.

For those of you that view MTG as an aberration, remember that her election is very much in the spirit of democracy.  There is a reason the Founders limited popular election of Federal officials solely to the House of Representatives; they believed that "the people" would elect all sorts of MTGs.  It's one of a number of reasons of why the Founders opted for a bi-cameral legislature.

It's also a reason why we are not a "democracy", but a REPUBLIC.  Our Republic has, to be sure, democratic features, but we are not a "democracy".  The "Guaranty Clause" guarantees that each state will have a "republican form of government", and not a "democratic form of government".  The older I get the more appreciative of this principle I become.

The words democracy and republic are not mutually exclusive. America was founded and remains a democratic republic

I've really come to hate the statement "we're a republic, not a democracy." This country functions as a republic and representative democracy, and direct Congressional elections are constitutionally enshrined as such. So what exactly is the point of that statement? To illustrate that having people vote on every single government action is bad? Yeah, I think it would be bad, but we don't do it anyway, so whatever. We the people sure do elect representatives to make and execute the law, though.

It seems like 90% of the time I see that statement on the internet, it's just some conservative trying to explain why their attempts to try and rig an election in their favor (or steal it after the fact) is somehow justifiable, because something something republic.

"Conservatives" rigging elections?  That's downright rich!

There is no reason that the conduct of the election in GA, PA, and MI not be investigated.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Newt Grinich chimes in, his argument isn't exactly the best. it's kinda crazy Lucy Mcbath now represents his district.

https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/1355675967491084290

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

The GOP could expel her from the Caucus.  She could respond by collecting a paycheck for doing nothing for 2 years, but that might be a good thing.

For those of you that view MTG as an aberration, remember that her election is very much in the spirit of democracy.  There is a reason the Founders limited popular election of Federal officials solely to the House of Representatives; they believed that "the people" would elect all sorts of MTGs.  It's one of a number of reasons of why the Founders opted for a bi-cameral legislature.

It's also a reason why we are not a "democracy", but a REPUBLIC.  Our Republic has, to be sure, democratic features, but we are not a "democracy".  The "Guaranty Clause" guarantees that each state will have a "republican form of government", and not a "democratic form of government".  The older I get the more appreciative of this principle I become.

The words democracy and republic are not mutually exclusive. America was founded and remains a democratic republic

I've really come to hate the statement "we're a republic, not a democracy." This country functions as a republic and representative democracy, and direct Congressional elections are constitutionally enshrined as such. So what exactly is the point of that statement? To illustrate that having people vote on every single government action is bad? Yeah, I think it would be bad, but we don't do it anyway, so whatever. We the people sure do elect representatives to make and execute the law, though.

It seems like 90% of the time I see that statement on the internet, it's just some conservative trying to explain why their attempts to try and rig an election in their favor (or steal it after the fact) is somehow justifiable, because something something republic.

"Conservatives" rigging elections?  That's downright rich!

There is no reason that the conduct of the election in GA, PA, and MI not be investigated. There is no reason that the Court not honestly consider the Constitutionality of Election Officials in these states changing the rules of the way the elections were conducted without the affirmation of the state legislatures.  There is no reason not to explain why Georgia allowed for a lesser degree of accuracy in signature verification for mail-in votes.  There is no reason that testimony should be taken by the Congress as to the counting of votes in these states and no reason that those who have signed affidavits be able to tell their stories before Congress under oath to the American people.  To say nothing of the media suppressing stories about Hunter Biden, censoring social media, and cancelling people who shared that story.

Would this change the result?  Not at this point.  Would it instill confidence in the outcome of the 2020 election?  Maybe.  That would depend on whether or not the results of an honest investigation would lead people to believe that the final results in GA, MI, and PA would have been different.  Understand this:  The claims of election irregularities were not baseless just because CNN and NBC said so.  Trump's lawsuits were not "laughed out of Court"; many were not heard on technicalities. 

Democrats don't want such an investigation because it would open for inspection the conduct of elections in three of its most corrupt baliwicks (Wayne County, MI, Fulton County, GA, and Philadelphia County, PA).  And they've gotten their wish; it won't happen.  Please don't say they weren't called for, however.  And please don't say that they're not still needed. 

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

The GOP could expel her from the Caucus.  She could respond by collecting a paycheck for doing nothing for 2 years, but that might be a good thing.

For those of you that view MTG as an aberration, remember that her election is very much in the spirit of democracy.  There is a reason the Founders limited popular election of Federal officials solely to the House of Representatives; they believed that "the people" would elect all sorts of MTGs.  It's one of a number of reasons of why the Founders opted for a bi-cameral legislature.

It's also a reason why we are not a "democracy", but a REPUBLIC.  Our Republic has, to be sure, democratic features, but we are not a "democracy".  The "Guaranty Clause" guarantees that each state will have a "republican form of government", and not a "democratic form of government".  The older I get the more appreciative of this principle I become.

The words democracy and republic are not mutually exclusive. America was founded and remains a democratic republic

I've really come to hate the statement "we're a republic, not a democracy." This country functions as a republic and representative democracy, and direct Congressional elections are constitutionally enshrined as such. So what exactly is the point of that statement? To illustrate that having people vote on every single government action is bad? Yeah, I think it would be bad, but we don't do it anyway, so whatever. We the people sure do elect representatives to make and execute the law, though.

It seems like 90% of the time I see that statement on the internet, it's just some conservative trying to explain why their attempts to try and rig an election in their favor (or steal it after the fact) is somehow justifiable, because something something republic.

"Conservatives" rigging elections?  That's downright rich!

There is no reason that the conduct of the election in GA, PA, and MI not be investigated. There is no reason that the Court not honestly consider the Constitutionality of Election Officials in these states changing the rules of the way the elections were conducted without the affirmation of the state legislatures.  There is no reason not to explain why Georgia allowed for a lesser degree of accuracy in signature verification for mail-in votes.  There is no reason that testimony should be taken by the Congress as to the counting of votes in these states and no reason that those who have signed affidavits be able to tell their stories before Congress under oath to the American people.  To say nothing of the media suppressing stories about Hunter Biden, censoring social media, and cancelling people who shared that story.

Would this change the result?  Not at this point.  Would it instill confidence in the outcome of the 2020 election?  Maybe.  That would depend on whether or not the results of an honest investigation would lead people to believe that the final results in GA, MI, and PA would have been different.  Understand this:  The claims of election irregularities were not baseless just because CNN and NBC said so.  Trump's lawsuits were not "laughed out of Court"; many were not heard on technicalities. 

Democrats don't want such an investigation because it would open for inspection the conduct of elections in three of its most corrupt baliwicks (Wayne County, MI, Fulton County, GA, and Philadelphia County, PA).  And they've gotten their wish; it won't happen.  Please don't say they weren't called for, however.  And please don't say that they're not still needed. 

Cope

[lfromnj]

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

The GOP could expel her from the Caucus.  She could respond by collecting a paycheck for doing nothing for 2 years, but that might be a good thing.

For those of you that view MTG as an aberration, remember that her election is very much in the spirit of democracy.  There is a reason the Founders limited popular election of Federal officials solely to the House of Representatives; they believed that "the people" would elect all sorts of MTGs.  It's one of a number of reasons of why the Founders opted for a bi-cameral legislature.

It's also a reason why we are not a "democracy", but a REPUBLIC.  Our Republic has, to be sure, democratic features, but we are not a "democracy".  The "Guaranty Clause" guarantees that each state will have a "republican form of government", and not a "democratic form of government".  The older I get the more appreciative of this principle I become.

The words democracy and republic are not mutually exclusive. America was founded and remains a democratic republic

I've really come to hate the statement "we're a republic, not a democracy." This country functions as a republic and representative democracy, and direct Congressional elections are constitutionally enshrined as such. So what exactly is the point of that statement? To illustrate that having people vote on every single government action is bad? Yeah, I think it would be bad, but we don't do it anyway, so whatever. We the people sure do elect representatives to make and execute the law, though.

It seems like 90% of the time I see that statement on the internet, it's just some conservative trying to explain why their attempts to try and rig an election in their favor (or steal it after the fact) is somehow justifiable, because something something republic.

"Conservatives" rigging elections?  That's downright rich!

There is no reason that the conduct of the election in GA, PA, and MI not be investigated.

They were, and multiple Republican court justices agreed it was legal.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Newt Grinich chimes in, his argument isn't exactly the best. it's kinda crazy Lucy Mcbath now represents his district.

https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/1355675967491084290

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

The GOP could expel her from the Caucus.  She could respond by collecting a paycheck for doing nothing for 2 years, but that might be a good thing.

For those of you that view MTG as an aberration, remember that her election is very much in the spirit of democracy.  There is a reason the Founders limited popular election of Federal officials solely to the House of Representatives; they believed that "the people" would elect all sorts of MTGs.  It's one of a number of reasons of why the Founders opted for a bi-cameral legislature.

It's also a reason why we are not a "democracy", but a REPUBLIC.  Our Republic has, to be sure, democratic features, but we are not a "democracy".  The "Guaranty Clause" guarantees that each state will have a "republican form of government", and not a "democratic form of government".  The older I get the more appreciative of this principle I become.

The words democracy and republic are not mutually exclusive. America was founded and remains a democratic republic

I've really come to hate the statement "we're a republic, not a democracy." This country functions as a republic and representative democracy, and direct Congressional elections are constitutionally enshrined as such. So what exactly is the point of that statement? To illustrate that having people vote on every single government action is bad? Yeah, I think it would be bad, but we don't do it anyway, so whatever. We the people sure do elect representatives to make and execute the law, though.

It seems like 90% of the time I see that statement on the internet, it's just some conservative trying to explain why their attempts to try and rig an election in their favor (or steal it after the fact) is somehow justifiable, because something something republic.

"Conservatives" rigging elections?  That's downright rich!

There is no reason that the conduct of the election in GA, PA, and MI not be investigated. There is no reason that the Court not honestly consider the Constitutionality of Election Officials in these states changing the rules of the way the elections were conducted without the affirmation of the state legislatures.  There is no reason not to explain why Georgia allowed for a lesser degree of accuracy in signature verification for mail-in votes.  There is no reason that testimony should be taken by the Congress as to the counting of votes in these states and no reason that those who have signed affidavits be able to tell their stories before Congress under oath to the American people.  To say nothing of the media suppressing stories about Hunter Biden, censoring social media, and cancelling people who shared that story.

Would this change the result?  Not at this point.  Would it instill confidence in the outcome of the 2020 election?  Maybe.  That would depend on whether or not the results of an honest investigation would lead people to believe that the final results in GA, MI, and PA would have been different.  Understand this:  The claims of election irregularities were not baseless just because CNN and NBC said so.  Trump's lawsuits were not "laughed out of Court"; many were not heard on technicalities. 

Democrats don't want such an investigation because it would open for inspection the conduct of elections in three of its most corrupt baliwicks (Wayne County, MI, Fulton County, GA, and Philadelphia County, PA).  And they've gotten their wish; it won't happen.  Please don't say they weren't called for, however.  And please don't say that they're not still needed. 

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

The GOP could expel her from the Caucus.  She could respond by collecting a paycheck for doing nothing for 2 years, but that might be a good thing.

For those of you that view MTG as an aberration, remember that her election is very much in the spirit of democracy.  There is a reason the Founders limited popular election of Federal officials solely to the House of Representatives; they believed that "the people" would elect all sorts of MTGs.  It's one of a number of reasons of why the Founders opted for a bi-cameral legislature.

It's also a reason why we are not a "democracy", but a REPUBLIC.  Our Republic has, to be sure, democratic features, but we are not a "democracy".  The "Guaranty Clause" guarantees that each state will have a "republican form of government", and not a "democratic form of government".  The older I get the more appreciative of this principle I become.

The words democracy and republic are not mutually exclusive. America was founded and remains a democratic republic

I've really come to hate the statement "we're a republic, not a democracy." This country functions as a republic and representative democracy, and direct Congressional elections are constitutionally enshrined as such. So what exactly is the point of that statement? To illustrate that having people vote on every single government action is bad? Yeah, I think it would be bad, but we don't do it anyway, so whatever. We the people sure do elect representatives to make and execute the law, though.

It seems like 90% of the time I see that statement on the internet, it's just some conservative trying to explain why their attempts to try and rig an election in their favor (or steal it after the fact) is somehow justifiable, because something something republic.

"Conservatives" rigging elections?  That's downright rich!

There is no reason that the conduct of the election in GA, PA, and MI not be investigated. There is no reason that the Court not honestly consider the Constitutionality of Election Officials in these states changing the rules of the way the elections were conducted without the affirmation of the state legislatures.  There is no reason not to explain why Georgia allowed for a lesser degree of accuracy in signature verification for mail-in votes.  There is no reason that testimony should be taken by the Congress as to the counting of votes in these states and no reason that those who have signed affidavits be able to tell their stories before Congress under oath to the American people.  To say nothing of the media suppressing stories about Hunter Biden, censoring social media, and cancelling people who shared that story.

Would this change the result?  Not at this point.  Would it instill confidence in the outcome of the 2020 election?  Maybe.  That would depend on whether or not the results of an honest investigation would lead people to believe that the final results in GA, MI, and PA would have been different.  Understand this:  The claims of election irregularities were not baseless just because CNN and NBC said so.  Trump's lawsuits were not "laughed out of Court"; many were not heard on technicalities. 

Democrats don't want such an investigation because it would open for inspection the conduct of elections in three of its most corrupt baliwicks (Wayne County, MI, Fulton County, GA, and Philadelphia County, PA).  And they've gotten their wish; it won't happen.  Please don't say they weren't called for, however.  And please don't say that they're not still needed. 

Cope

I am coping.  Calling for investigation of these corrupt baliwicks is how I cope.

I have never said that Trump "won in a landslide".  I am not certain he "won".  But I'm not certain that a combination of voter fraud, counting votes that should have been, under the law, excluded, and corrupt counting practices may have made the difference in GA, PA, and MI.  There are allegations of ballots transported from NY to PA, of huge numbers of ballots having just the Presidential race selected, bins of ballots pulled out under tables, etc.  Why should this NOT be investigated?  We may or may not have had a just outcome of the last election, but we ought to have the truth as to how the votes were counted and the impact to which unauthorized practices by elections officials in violation of state statutes would have changed the final amount.

We may not know.  We may never really know.  But we ought to be able to know the REAL impact of these issues on the vote count.  And we ought to know the ways in which elections were conducted in violation of the Constitutions and Election Laws "due to COVID-19".

[It’s so Joever]

Newt Grinich chimes in, his argument isn't exactly the best. it's kinda crazy Lucy Mcbath now represents his district.

https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/1355675967491084290

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

The GOP could expel her from the Caucus.  She could respond by collecting a paycheck for doing nothing for 2 years, but that might be a good thing.

For those of you that view MTG as an aberration, remember that her election is very much in the spirit of democracy.  There is a reason the Founders limited popular election of Federal officials solely to the House of Representatives; they believed that "the people" would elect all sorts of MTGs.  It's one of a number of reasons of why the Founders opted for a bi-cameral legislature.

It's also a reason why we are not a "democracy", but a REPUBLIC.  Our Republic has, to be sure, democratic features, but we are not a "democracy".  The "Guaranty Clause" guarantees that each state will have a "republican form of government", and not a "democratic form of government".  The older I get the more appreciative of this principle I become.

The words democracy and republic are not mutually exclusive. America was founded and remains a democratic republic

I've really come to hate the statement "we're a republic, not a democracy." This country functions as a republic and representative democracy, and direct Congressional elections are constitutionally enshrined as such. So what exactly is the point of that statement? To illustrate that having people vote on every single government action is bad? Yeah, I think it would be bad, but we don't do it anyway, so whatever. We the people sure do elect representatives to make and execute the law, though.

It seems like 90% of the time I see that statement on the internet, it's just some conservative trying to explain why their attempts to try and rig an election in their favor (or steal it after the fact) is somehow justifiable, because something something republic.

"Conservatives" rigging elections?  That's downright rich!

There is no reason that the conduct of the election in GA, PA, and MI not be investigated. There is no reason that the Court not honestly consider the Constitutionality of Election Officials in these states changing the rules of the way the elections were conducted without the affirmation of the state legislatures.  There is no reason not to explain why Georgia allowed for a lesser degree of accuracy in signature verification for mail-in votes.  There is no reason that testimony should be taken by the Congress as to the counting of votes in these states and no reason that those who have signed affidavits be able to tell their stories before Congress under oath to the American people.  To say nothing of the media suppressing stories about Hunter Biden, censoring social media, and cancelling people who shared that story.

Would this change the result?  Not at this point.  Would it instill confidence in the outcome of the 2020 election?  Maybe.  That would depend on whether or not the results of an honest investigation would lead people to believe that the final results in GA, MI, and PA would have been different.  Understand this:  The claims of election irregularities were not baseless just because CNN and NBC said so.  Trump's lawsuits were not "laughed out of Court"; many were not heard on technicalities. 

Democrats don't want such an investigation because it would open for inspection the conduct of elections in three of its most corrupt baliwicks (Wayne County, MI, Fulton County, GA, and Philadelphia County, PA).  And they've gotten their wish; it won't happen.  Please don't say they weren't called for, however.  And please don't say that they're not still needed. 

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

The GOP could expel her from the Caucus.  She could respond by collecting a paycheck for doing nothing for 2 years, but that might be a good thing.

For those of you that view MTG as an aberration, remember that her election is very much in the spirit of democracy.  There is a reason the Founders limited popular election of Federal officials solely to the House of Representatives; they believed that "the people" would elect all sorts of MTGs.  It's one of a number of reasons of why the Founders opted for a bi-cameral legislature.

It's also a reason why we are not a "democracy", but a REPUBLIC.  Our Republic has, to be sure, democratic features, but we are not a "democracy".  The "Guaranty Clause" guarantees that each state will have a "republican form of government", and not a "democratic form of government".  The older I get the more appreciative of this principle I become.

The words democracy and republic are not mutually exclusive. America was founded and remains a democratic republic

I've really come to hate the statement "we're a republic, not a democracy." This country functions as a republic and representative democracy, and direct Congressional elections are constitutionally enshrined as such. So what exactly is the point of that statement? To illustrate that having people vote on every single government action is bad? Yeah, I think it would be bad, but we don't do it anyway, so whatever. We the people sure do elect representatives to make and execute the law, though.

It seems like 90% of the time I see that statement on the internet, it's just some conservative trying to explain why their attempts to try and rig an election in their favor (or steal it after the fact) is somehow justifiable, because something something republic.

"Conservatives" rigging elections?  That's downright rich!

There is no reason that the conduct of the election in GA, PA, and MI not be investigated. There is no reason that the Court not honestly consider the Constitutionality of Election Officials in these states changing the rules of the way the elections were conducted without the affirmation of the state legislatures.  There is no reason not to explain why Georgia allowed for a lesser degree of accuracy in signature verification for mail-in votes.  There is no reason that testimony should be taken by the Congress as to the counting of votes in these states and no reason that those who have signed affidavits be able to tell their stories before Congress under oath to the American people.  To say nothing of the media suppressing stories about Hunter Biden, censoring social media, and cancelling people who shared that story.

Would this change the result?  Not at this point.  Would it instill confidence in the outcome of the 2020 election?  Maybe.  That would depend on whether or not the results of an honest investigation would lead people to believe that the final results in GA, MI, and PA would have been different.  Understand this:  The claims of election irregularities were not baseless just because CNN and NBC said so.  Trump's lawsuits were not "laughed out of Court"; many were not heard on technicalities. 

Democrats don't want such an investigation because it would open for inspection the conduct of elections in three of its most corrupt baliwicks (Wayne County, MI, Fulton County, GA, and Philadelphia County, PA).  And they've gotten their wish; it won't happen.  Please don't say they weren't called for, however.  And please don't say that they're not still needed. 

Cope

I am coping.  Calling for investigation of these corrupt baliwicks is how I cope.

I have never said that Trump "won in a landslide".  I am not certain he "won".  But I'm not certain that a combination of voter fraud, counting votes that should have been, under the law, excluded, and corrupt counting practices may have made the difference in GA, PA, and MI.  There are allegations of ballots transported from NY to PA, of huge numbers of ballots having just the Presidential race selected, bins of ballots pulled out under tables, etc.  Why should this NOT be investigated?  We may or may not have had a just outcome of the last election, but we ought to have the truth as to how the votes were counted and the impact to which unauthorized practices by elections officials in violation of state statutes would have changed the final amount.

We may not know.  We may never really know.  But we ought to be able to know the REAL impact of these issues on the vote count.  And we ought to know the ways in which elections were conducted in violation of the Constitutions and Election Laws "due to COVID-19".

We may never know when you will stop shifting the goalposts.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Newt Grinich chimes in, his argument isn't exactly the best. it's kinda crazy Lucy Mcbath now represents his district.

https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/1355675967491084290

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

The GOP could expel her from the Caucus.  She could respond by collecting a paycheck for doing nothing for 2 years, but that might be a good thing.

For those of you that view MTG as an aberration, remember that her election is very much in the spirit of democracy.  There is a reason the Founders limited popular election of Federal officials solely to the House of Representatives; they believed that "the people" would elect all sorts of MTGs.  It's one of a number of reasons of why the Founders opted for a bi-cameral legislature.

It's also a reason why we are not a "democracy", but a REPUBLIC.  Our Republic has, to be sure, democratic features, but we are not a "democracy".  The "Guaranty Clause" guarantees that each state will have a "republican form of government", and not a "democratic form of government".  The older I get the more appreciative of this principle I become.

The words democracy and republic are not mutually exclusive. America was founded and remains a democratic republic

I've really come to hate the statement "we're a republic, not a democracy." This country functions as a republic and representative democracy, and direct Congressional elections are constitutionally enshrined as such. So what exactly is the point of that statement? To illustrate that having people vote on every single government action is bad? Yeah, I think it would be bad, but we don't do it anyway, so whatever. We the people sure do elect representatives to make and execute the law, though.

It seems like 90% of the time I see that statement on the internet, it's just some conservative trying to explain why their attempts to try and rig an election in their favor (or steal it after the fact) is somehow justifiable, because something something republic.

"Conservatives" rigging elections?  That's downright rich!

There is no reason that the conduct of the election in GA, PA, and MI not be investigated. There is no reason that the Court not honestly consider the Constitutionality of Election Officials in these states changing the rules of the way the elections were conducted without the affirmation of the state legislatures.  There is no reason not to explain why Georgia allowed for a lesser degree of accuracy in signature verification for mail-in votes.  There is no reason that testimony should be taken by the Congress as to the counting of votes in these states and no reason that those who have signed affidavits be able to tell their stories before Congress under oath to the American people.  To say nothing of the media suppressing stories about Hunter Biden, censoring social media, and cancelling people who shared that story.

Would this change the result?  Not at this point.  Would it instill confidence in the outcome of the 2020 election?  Maybe.  That would depend on whether or not the results of an honest investigation would lead people to believe that the final results in GA, MI, and PA would have been different.  Understand this:  The claims of election irregularities were not baseless just because CNN and NBC said so.  Trump's lawsuits were not "laughed out of Court"; many were not heard on technicalities. 

Democrats don't want such an investigation because it would open for inspection the conduct of elections in three of its most corrupt baliwicks (Wayne County, MI, Fulton County, GA, and Philadelphia County, PA).  And they've gotten their wish; it won't happen.  Please don't say they weren't called for, however.  And please don't say that they're not still needed. 

Strip her of all her major committee assignments, cosigning her to sitting on more irrelevant committees. If she repeats remarks such as calling for Pelosi's execution or other crazy things she has said over the years, move to expel.

The GOP could expel her from the Caucus.  She could respond by collecting a paycheck for doing nothing for 2 years, but that might be a good thing.

For those of you that view MTG as an aberration, remember that her election is very much in the spirit of democracy.  There is a reason the Founders limited popular election of Federal officials solely to the House of Representatives; they believed that "the people" would elect all sorts of MTGs.  It's one of a number of reasons of why the Founders opted for a bi-cameral legislature.

It's also a reason why we are not a "democracy", but a REPUBLIC.  Our Republic has, to be sure, democratic features, but we are not a "democracy".  The "Guaranty Clause" guarantees that each state will have a "republican form of government", and not a "democratic form of government".  The older I get the more appreciative of this principle I become.

The words democracy and republic are not mutually exclusive. America was founded and remains a democratic republic

I've really come to hate the statement "we're a republic, not a democracy." This country functions as a republic and representative democracy, and direct Congressional elections are constitutionally enshrined as such. So what exactly is the point of that statement? To illustrate that having people vote on every single government action is bad? Yeah, I think it would be bad, but we don't do it anyway, so whatever. We the people sure do elect representatives to make and execute the law, though.

It seems like 90% of the time I see that statement on the internet, it's just some conservative trying to explain why their attempts to try and rig an election in their favor (or steal it after the fact) is somehow justifiable, because something something republic.

"Conservatives" rigging elections?  That's downright rich!

There is no reason that the conduct of the election in GA, PA, and MI not be investigated. There is no reason that the Court not honestly consider the Constitutionality of Election Officials in these states changing the rules of the way the elections were conducted without the affirmation of the state legislatures.  There is no reason not to explain why Georgia allowed for a lesser degree of accuracy in signature verification for mail-in votes.  There is no reason that testimony should be taken by the Congress as to the counting of votes in these states and no reason that those who have signed affidavits be able to tell their stories before Congress under oath to the American people.  To say nothing of the media suppressing stories about Hunter Biden, censoring social media, and cancelling people who shared that story.

Would this change the result?  Not at this point.  Would it instill confidence in the outcome of the 2020 election?  Maybe.  That would depend on whether or not the results of an honest investigation would lead people to believe that the final results in GA, MI, and PA would have been different.  Understand this:  The claims of election irregularities were not baseless just because CNN and NBC said so.  Trump's lawsuits were not "laughed out of Court"; many were not heard on technicalities. 

Democrats don't want such an investigation because it would open for inspection the conduct of elections in three of its most corrupt baliwicks (Wayne County, MI, Fulton County, GA, and Philadelphia County, PA).  And they've gotten their wish; it won't happen.  Please don't say they weren't called for, however.  And please don't say that they're not still needed. 

Cope

I am coping.  Calling for investigation of these corrupt baliwicks is how I cope.

I have never said that Trump "won in a landslide".  I am not certain he "won".  But I'm not certain that a combination of voter fraud, counting votes that should have been, under the law, excluded, and corrupt counting practices may have made the difference in GA, PA, and MI.  There are allegations of ballots transported from NY to PA, of huge numbers of ballots having just the Presidential race selected, bins of ballots pulled out under tables, etc.  Why should this NOT be investigated?  We may or may not have had a just outcome of the last election, but we ought to have the truth as to how the votes were counted and the impact to which unauthorized practices by elections officials in violation of state statutes would have changed the final amount.

We may not know.  We may never really know.  But we ought to be able to know the REAL impact of these issues on the vote count.  And we ought to know the ways in which elections were conducted in violation of the Constitutions and Election Laws "due to COVID-19".

We may never know when you will stop shifting the goalposts.

The fear of fact-finding investigations as to how the past election was conducted seems to face massive resistance from those who were fine with the Russiagate investigation, which turned out to be much ado about nothing.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Fuzzy we had “fact finding investigations” around voter fraud and they found nothing. You said you’d accept the courts as the final arbiter on whether voter fraud happened and when they ruled nothing fishy happened you just ignored it and kept saying voter fraud happened. This is no different then when you throw out accusations or talking points that get debunked and run away from the thread like nothing happened wait a couple days and post the same accusations or talking points again.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Fuzzy we had “fact finding investigations” around voter fraud and they found nothing. You said you’d accept the courts as the final arbiter on whether voter fraud happened and when they ruled nothing fishy happened you just ignored it and kept saying voter fraud happened. This is no different then when you throw out accusations or talking points that get debunked and run away from the thread like nothing happened wait a couple days and post the same accusations or talking points again.

That presumes the Courts would actually hear the questions and hear witnesses.  That hasn't happened.  It should happen.  As for "debunked" allegations, the MSM lacks the credibilty to debunk anything about this past election.  They have not been objective reporters of fact; they have been activists in the tank to elect Biden at all costs.  An independent press is something we don't have now.

We've spend millions on Russiagate (which has been debunked by investigation).  We can spend money on this.  There is cause for it.  People who are actually liberal should be fine with this.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Fuzzy we had “fact finding investigations” around voter fraud and they found nothing. You said you’d accept the courts as the final arbiter on whether voter fraud happened and when they ruled nothing fishy happened you just ignored it and kept saying voter fraud happened. This is no different then when you throw out accusations or talking points that get debunked and run away from the thread like nothing happened wait a couple days and post the same accusations or talking points again.

That presumes the Courts would actually hear the questions and hear witnesses.  That hasn't happened.  It should happen.  As for "debunked" allegations, the MSM lacks the credibilty to debunk anything about this past election.  They have not been objective reporters of fact; they have been activists in the tank to elect Biden at all costs.  An independent press is something we don't have now.

We've spend millions on Russiagate (which has been debunked by investigation).  We can spend money on this.  There is cause for it.  People who are actually liberal should be fine with this.

This is literally what I’m talking about. You said you would accept the courts ruling on voter fraud and then when the courts say nothing happened you shifted the goalposts to somehow the courts not investigating enough to your liking. This type of stuff is why so many posters here say you argue in bad faith

[roxas11]

Fuzzy we had “fact finding investigations” around voter fraud and they found nothing. You said you’d accept the courts as the final arbiter on whether voter fraud happened and when they ruled nothing fishy happened you just ignored it and kept saying voter fraud happened. This is no different then when you throw out accusations or talking points that get debunked and run away from the thread like nothing happened wait a couple days and post the same accusations or talking points again.

That presumes the Courts would actually hear the questions and hear witnesses.  That hasn't happened.  It should happen.  As for "debunked" allegations, the MSM lacks the credibilty to debunk anything about this past election.  They have not been objective reporters of fact; they have been activists in the tank to elect Biden at all costs.  An independent press is something we don't have now.

We've spend millions on Russiagate (which has been debunked by investigation).  We can spend money on this.  There is cause for it.  People who are actually liberal should be fine with this.

If that is the case than Trump has no one to blame but himself
He had more than enough opportunities to present compelling evidence to Judges that he Himself appointed to the courts

We should not have to spend tax payer money on a silly fact finding investigation just because trump hired and incompetent lawyer like Rudy Giuliani who could not even get "Trump Judges" to take his claims of voter fraud seriously