DC Unrest Megathread

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Eff Trump. Eff Pence. Eff McConnell. Eff the Murdochs. Eff Mark Zuckerberg.

They've gotten us here.

How does Zuckerberg have anything to do with this

He's a vampire that turned a blind eye and profited from the spread of misinformation.

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When does the Left start arming bands of goons? Feels like we need to catch up.

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The whole message is get out of the far right's way

We saw the far left do their thing in the summer, this is the right's time.

This only helps the center

What the hell are you talking about

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Welp, so much for the party of law and order.

Goddamned traitors. Too bad we liberals are supposed to be against the death penalty.

You could always just be pro-gun.

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Welp, so much for the party of law and order.

Goddamned traitors. Too bad we liberals are supposed to be against the death penalty.

You could always just be pro-gun.

Yes. Because escalating even further would totally fix America's problems.

And the alternative is just letting the side that wants to kill me and the people I care about have all the guns? Good one!

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Welp, so much for the party of law and order.

Goddamned traitors. Too bad we liberals are supposed to be against the death penalty.

You could always just be pro-gun.

Yes. Because escalating even further would totally fix America's problems.

And the alternative is just letting the side that wants to kill me and the people I care about have all the guns? Good one!

Well no. The alternative is taking their guns.

Good f-ing luck dude. These people are about to pull off a coup because the government took away Applebees.

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This should be a wake up call to American liberals. These people will not listen to platitudes, they do not care about institutions, voting isn't enough. Get organized and be prepared.

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Are any of y'all actually surprised cops are getting chummy with fascist militias even as they swarm the capitol? I wish I lived in y'alls world.

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Are any of y'all actually surprised cops are getting chummy with fascist militias even as they swarm the capitol? I wish I lived in y'alls world.

I think it's more likely that they are simply trying to avoid the optics of a bloodbath in the Capitol. I understand the logic of it, but I don't agree with it.

I don't buy that. They had no problem playing rough over the summer. I've got clothes that still smell like tear gas.

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Plus no building is no important than the Capitol. That's just sacred. You don't touch that.

It's great when the neolibs' masks slip just enough that you can plainly see that their true fidelity is to mere physical presentations of state power (i.e., literal buildings) and other objects, lol.  Power resides in people, not buildings.  If the U.S. Capitol ever becomes a symbol of a system of civil government that does not serve the best interests of the people, then it will deserve to be burned to the ground.

Like I said, if Joe Biden had any balls (like I wish he did), he would be declaring provisional government and martial law tonight.  Would he, if successful, destory the system of government that keeps Republicans artifically in power?  Probably yes, but that's the price that has to be paid to reconstitute our belief in a government that works for "the majority" (defined however the mob wishes.)  This isn't a Republican or Democrat thing, it's a matter of renewing our right to self-determination and refreshing the civil state (which really hasn't been seriously updated since the New Deal/WWII.)    

Scott, once again, captures my thoughts on today's happenings almost perfectly:

The system is broken and it needs to be rebuilt from the ground-up. I don't care who sparks it, but this is actually a moment for the disenfranchised and the cynics on both the left and right to retake the country for ourselves.

The Capitol and the Constitution are the symbols of the government though. They aren't just objects. And power resides in them, not in our leaders. And for centuries, they've served us well. The civil government does serve the interests of the people. It's just our leaders (well really, your leaders) that have failed us. We don't need to burn it all down. We just need you guys to go away.

#ResistTheMob

Your institutions and symbols did a real great job of preventing this!

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Trump should not be impeached or removed from office. That would turn him into a martyr and further radicalized his supporters.

At this point, his supporters’ needs or wishes are irrelevant.

Trump is leaving office in 2 weeks. Removing him a few days early is not worth the cost.

I do think you are posting in good faith. It's a reasonable thing to be concerned about.

But what the hell is the point of impeachment if we don't practice it on someone who helped advocate for insurrection?

The truth is it never really meant anything

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https://mobile.twitter.com/SocialistAlt/status/1346922932208087046

Socialist Alternative are the first major group to publicly announce they are mobilizing. Others have most likely done so, but won’t post their efforts for a while on their organ.

Good on the Trots.

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It's always funny to watch liberals try to play whack-a-mole with fascists and think it makes them look tough or virtuous or something. Sure, lock up all these current fascists and throw away the key. Stamp their teeth in if it makes you feel better. But until you remove the root cause of fascism, it'll come back in another generation or two.

Save some of that vitriol y'all have towards the symptoms for the actual disease.

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Many, many Trump supporters are utterly embarassed at what has happened, IRL and on forum.

Sure, but the question therefore is; are they still Trump supporters?  The answer to that will tell us all we need to know.

No, even that doesn't go far enough. It's easy for these profile in Courage last-minute converts to democracy to reject Trump in the last week and a half of his presidency when he is irrelevant towards conservatives maintaining political power and advancing their agenda. If they don't oppose Trump ISM, which encompasses all those jackass congressmen, Senators, Governors, and hundreds of assorted Republican officials who full bore stood by and parotid Trump's Fantastical claims of election fraud and incitements for Direct action.

If they can't bring themselves to throw out those individuals for at bare minimum a sane Republican like Nancy Mays, Mitt Romney, John Kasich, Etc, or if not then bite the bullet and vote Democrat or third-party, then they've demonstrated they really don't give a crap. Between conservatism and democracy, they will choose the former every time.

Except for the fact that you could count on one hand the number of elected Republican politicians who are truly Trumpists.  Frankly, that list might begin and end with Josh Hawley.  And, even he is probably more pandering than anything.

Marjorie Taylor Greene?

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Many, many Trump supporters are utterly embarassed at what has happened, IRL and on forum.

Sure, but the question therefore is; are they still Trump supporters?  The answer to that will tell us all we need to know.

No, even that doesn't go far enough. It's easy for these profile in Courage last-minute converts to democracy to reject Trump in the last week and a half of his presidency when he is irrelevant towards conservatives maintaining political power and advancing their agenda. If they don't oppose Trump ISM, which encompasses all those jackass congressmen, Senators, Governors, and hundreds of assorted Republican officials who full bore stood by and parotid Trump's Fantastical claims of election fraud and incitements for Direct action.

If they can't bring themselves to throw out those individuals for at bare minimum a sane Republican like Nancy Mays, Mitt Romney, John Kasich, Etc, or if not then bite the bullet and vote Democrat or third-party, then they've demonstrated they really don't give a crap. Between conservatism and democracy, they will choose the former every time.

Except for the fact that you could count on one hand the number of elected Republican politicians who are truly Trumpists.  Frankly, that list might begin and end with Josh Hawley.  And, even he is probably more pandering than anything.

Tuberville?  Gosar?  Mo Brooks?  Boebert?  Greene?  Gaetz?  We're already over one hand and those are just the first ones that jumped to mind.

Jim Jordan is another one that I can think of. As I was remarking elsewhere, the number of extremist ideologues in the Republican caucus is alarming to me.

How can we forget Big Louie Gohmert

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While the committed and open "Trumpist faction" of the GOP is a minority, it isn't just a handful of elected officials. This is a legitimate faction within the Republican Party.

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https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1347674222194253825

Man, that's pretty damning.

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Looking like antifa did piss-all to stop me from getting arrested. Next time I'll show up in a Fred Perry or the galea that's been collecting dust in my closet.