DC Unrest Megathread

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1349126955409539075

Expel now.

[Old Man Willow]

I would have assumed the Capitol would have been one of the first places metal detectors were installed after their invention. Unbelievable they were just installed. Not so hard to believe many of our elite think they are above having to use them.

[ProudModerate2]

I would have assumed the Capitol would have been one of the first places metal detectors were installed after their invention. Unbelievable they were just installed. Not so hard to believe many of our elite think they are above having to use them.

And what is this about the loons thinking metal detectors are "unconstitutional."

[Roll Roons]

I would have assumed the Capitol would have been one of the first places metal detectors were installed after their invention. Unbelievable they were just installed. Not so hard to believe many of our elite think they are above having to use them.

Everyone (except members) has to go through metal detectors when entering any of the buildings. And that's been in place since at least 9/11, possibly earlier.

[Fight for Trump]

Members of Congress should be exempt from security checks.

Why?

This shouldn't require any explanation.

Not after the intelligence reports that the insurrectionists had inside help.  

- Members of Congress are allowed to be armed in the Capitol, and have access to everything, making any security search completely irrelevant
- Security exists to protect lawmakers from external threats, not the other way around
- They may be carrying sensitive documents that cannot be revealed to a random police officer
- If a member of Congress really wanted to cause damage, they don't need a gun to do it
- Capitol buildings exist for the sole purpose of allowing members of Congress to do their business. They do not need to explain themselves to anyone, and their movements should not be questioned or hindered in any way outside emergencies.

The nation's business should not be held up by irrational and unnecessary security checks. This is as ridiculous as making POTUS go through the same security checks as tourists when returning to the White House. Or a foreign ambassador, or Cabinet Secretary, or member of Congress, for that matter.

[Inmate Trump]

More Republicans are now freaking out and refusing to go through the medal detector.

Is there someone (media) showing this live?.
If so, where.

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1349159121032011777?s=20

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1349159492383100928?s=20

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1349162337568227328?s=20

Why are they being allowed to push their way through?

If I did this the cop would slam me to the ground, and rightfully so.

If these Congresspeople don’t want to walk through a metal detector, they should be forced out physically if necessary.

[Old Man Willow]

I would have assumed the Capitol would have been one of the first places metal detectors were installed after their invention. Unbelievable they were just installed. Not so hard to believe many of our elite think they are above having to use them.

Everyone (except members) has to go through metal detectors when entering any of the buildings. And that's been in place since at least 9/11, possibly earlier.

Ah, that makes more sense.

[emailking]

Are Capitol police refusing them entry ... stopping them from acting like an elitist, bratty adolescent? If not, they should be. Use force if necessary (man-handle them and their unchecked bags/briefcases.)

If they're going to vote, I don't think they can stop them. For any reason.

[Tartarus Sauce]

The most galling part about the Congressmen getting bent out of shape over the metal detectors is that they have routinely passed legislation subjecting American citizens to these kinds of security checks in the public domain, but then throw a tantrum when the security state imposes itself on their own workplace.

[Ferguson97]

More Republicans are now freaking out and refusing to go through the medal detector.

These people are f'ing children.  Don't the people back home have any dignity?  They really want these lunatics representing them?  Telling the rest of America that their little part of the nation is a dangerous joke that you should never visit?

As crazy as it sounds - yes. This is exactly what they look for in representatives. They think this is an awesome moment of owning the libs and standing up for freedom.

[Ferguson97]

Members of Congress should be exempt from security checks.

Why?

This shouldn't require any explanation.

Not after the intelligence reports that the insurrectionists had inside help.  

- Members of Congress are allowed to be armed in the Capitol, and have access to everything, making any security search completely irrelevant
- Security exists to protect lawmakers from external threats, not the other way around
- They may be carrying sensitive documents that cannot be revealed to a random police officer
- If a member of Congress really wanted to cause damage, they don't need a gun to do it
- Capitol buildings exist for the sole purpose of allowing members of Congress to do their business. They do not need to explain themselves to anyone, and their movements should not be questioned or hindered in any way outside emergencies.

The nation's business should not be held up by irrational and unnecessary security checks. This is as ridiculous as making POTUS go through the same security checks as tourists when returning to the White House. Or a foreign ambassador, or Cabinet Secretary, or member of Congress, for that matter.

I'll remind you of this when Lauren Boebert tries to shoot Ilhan Omar for reaching into her purse a little too quickly.

[ProudModerate2]

The most galling part about the Congressmen getting bent out of shape over the metal detectors is that they have routinely passed legislation subjecting American citizens to these kinds of security checks in the public domain, but then throw a tantrum when the security state imposes itself on their own workplace.

And ... if their use is "unconstitutional," are these GOP reps saying that they are only valid/lawful to use on the rest of us, but not to them?

[Fight for Trump]

The most galling part about the Congressmen getting bent out of shape over the metal detectors is that they have routinely passed legislation subjecting American citizens to these kinds of security checks in the public domain, but then throw a tantrum when the security state imposes itself on their own workplace.

They have to go through security like everyone else at airports. The difference between them and you is that they are members of Congress, not a visitor or staff. The buildings were literally built for them (in their capacity as the people's representatives, of course), and security exists to protect them from you. Also, 535 publicly-known members of Congress is an infinitely smaller security risk than the many thousands of staff and visitors that enter the Capitol during a single term.

[Tartarus Sauce]

The most galling part about the Congressmen getting bent out of shape over the metal detectors is that they have routinely passed legislation subjecting American citizens to these kinds of security checks in the public domain, but then throw a tantrum when the security state imposes itself on their own workplace.

They have to go through security like everyone else at airports. The difference between them and you is that they are members of Congress, not a visitor or staff. The buildings were literally built for them (in their capacity as the people's representatives, of course). Also, 535 publicly-known members of Congress is an infinitely smaller security risk than the many thousands of staff and visitors that enter the Capitol during a single term.

Fair point, it's just the image of it all that smacks of impudence.

[ProudModerate2]

The most galling part about the Congressmen getting bent out of shape over the metal detectors is that they have routinely passed legislation subjecting American citizens to these kinds of security checks in the public domain, but then throw a tantrum when the security state imposes itself on their own workplace.

They have to go through security like everyone else at airports. The difference between them and you is that they are members of Congress, not a visitor or staff. The buildings were literally built for them (in their capacity as the people's representatives, of course), and security exists to protect them from you. Also, 535 publicly-known members of Congress is an infinitely smaller security risk than the many thousands of staff and visitors that enter the Capitol during a single term.

But where is the "unconstitutional" part of their argument?

[Fight for Trump]

The most galling part about the Congressmen getting bent out of shape over the metal detectors is that they have routinely passed legislation subjecting American citizens to these kinds of security checks in the public domain, but then throw a tantrum when the security state imposes itself on their own workplace.

They have to go through security like everyone else at airports. The difference between them and you is that they are members of Congress, not a visitor or staff. The buildings were literally built for them (in their capacity as the people's representatives, of course), and security exists to protect them from you. Also, 535 publicly-known members of Congress is an infinitely smaller security risk than the many thousands of staff and visitors that enter the Capitol during a single term.

But where is the "unconstitutional" part of their argument?

Obviously, that is a bit melodramatic and a stretch, but it doesn't really have anything to do with security in principle.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Ali Alexander definitely has some issues, not so sure about him being a reliable source.

https://twitter.com/bethanyshondark/status/1348451707676712960?s=20

https://twitter.com/lyndseyfifield/status/1349077620693020676?s=20

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Feel free to expel Lauren Boebert for something like this. Easy way to earn her more attention and popularity on the right, for expelling her over something as small potatoes as this. I feel sure she'd be returned in the resulting special election.

[Alben Barkley]

Feel free to expel Lauren Boebert for something like this. Easy way to earn her more attention and popularity on the right, for expelling her over something as small potatoes as this. I feel sure she'd be returned in the resulting special election.

Aiding and abetting terrorists in the Capitol in their attempts to assassinate the Speaker of the House is not "small potatoes."

And I'm f--king sick of negotiating with terrorists. I don't care how it looks or who is martyred or whatever the f--k. This CANNOT be tolerated. Period.

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1349174501745938433

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Resolution officially hits 217 votes, now we’ll just have to wait to hear from— *Jon Stewart holding hand up to the side of his head* And I’m being told we already have.

[Fight for Trump]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1349174501745938433

Members can bring guns to Capitol grounds, but not the floor of the House. (and let's face it, the prohibition on the floor is more a matter of decorum than security)

I read up more on this, and it seems that the metal detectors were installed by the House Sergeant-at-Arms, and applies only when entering the House floor, not the Capitol buildings themselves. So basically, Republican members are being babies in a way, but I still don't see why the honor system cannot be used for members like it was in the past.

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1349174501745938433

Members can bring guns to Capitol grounds, but not the floor of the House. (and let's face it, the prohibition on the floor is more a matter of decorum than security)

I read up more on this, and it seems that the metal detectors were installed by the House Sergeant-at-Arms, and applies only when entering the House floor, not the Capitol buildings themselves. So basically, Republican members are being babies in a way, but I still don't see why the honor system cannot be used for members like it was in the past.

You seriously don't see a problem with letting members of Congress carry guns on the floor? Do you want a murder to happen?

[Former President tack50]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1349174501745938433

Members can bring guns to Capitol grounds, but not the floor of the House. (and let's face it, the prohibition on the floor is more a matter of decorum than security)

I read up more on this, and it seems that the metal detectors were installed by the House Sergeant-at-Arms, and applies only when entering the House floor, not the Capitol buildings themselves. So basically, Republican members are being babies in a way, but I still don't see why the honor system cannot be used for members like it was in the past.

You seriously don't see a problem with letting members of Congress carry guns on the floor? Do you want a murder to happen?

To be honest, other than the police, no one should be carrying guns in the capitol at all

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Feel free to expel Lauren Boebert for something like this. Easy way to earn her more attention and popularity on the right, for expelling her over something as small potatoes as this. I feel sure she'd be returned in the resulting special election.

Aiding and abetting terrorists in the Capitol in their attempts to assassinate the Speaker of the House is not "small potatoes."

And I'm f--king sick of negotiating with terrorists. I don't care how it looks or who is martyred or whatever the f--k. This CANNOT be tolerated. Period.

you aware of how her district would likely see her being expelled due to her insistence on carrying guns in the Capitol, aren't you?