George W. Bush vs. Donald Trump

[Middle-aged Europe]

Anyone who thinks Trump is worse than W believes that Muslim lives don’t matter. Full stop.

It's quite possible to think that protecting democracy and upholding the constitution is more important than lives.

Abraham Lincoln certainly believed that preserving the Union is more important than peoples' lives and George Washington believed American independence is more important than peoples' lives, so you can't say that there aren't precedents.

[Sirius_]

It honestly shocks me that there are left leaners that still think Bush is worse the Trump.

[SWE]

Crediting Bush with "upholding the constitution" is quite the take

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Crediting Bush with "upholding the constitution" is quite the take

True.

[Chips]

Both were awful but Trump because Bush was a big war criminal.

[Sirius_]

Moderates and leftists who say Bush is worse, do you still stand by that?

[Joe Biden 2024]

Moderates and leftists who say Bush is worse, do you still stand by that?

[dw93]

Moderates and leftists who say Bush is worse, do you still stand by that?

If they do, they're no better than the MAGA cultists or Trump himself.

[Bootes Void]

Are there serious people who still think somehow Bush is worse?

Gimme a break...

[Alben Barkley]

Bush and it's not close.

I mean "neither" is a nice opt-out option but that's too easy. Between the two, the answer is clearly Bush.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Both were awful but Trump because Bush was a big war criminal.

[Goldwater]

Both were awful but Trump because Bush was a big war criminal.

People are still trying to claim that Bush was worse? LOL

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Both were awful but Trump because Bush was a big war criminal.

People are still trying to claim that Bush was worse? LOL

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukaradeeb_wedding_party_massacre

[Alben Barkley]

Both were awful but Trump because Bush was a big war criminal.

People are still trying to claim that Bush was worse? LOL

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukaradeeb_wedding_party_massacre

One of the first things Trump ever authorized was a botched raid that killed an 8 year old girl who was an American citizen.

I’ll never forget that. Especially because Obama’s people had advised against the operation and he did it anyway just to stick it to the black man. Literally killed an 8 year old girl because a narcissistic racist’s ego couldn’t stand the idea that Americans liked a black man with a bigger dick more than him.

You can criticize Bush all you want and Lord knows he deserves it. But as bad as his actions were, I STILL believe the man thought he had good intentions. That counts for SOMETHING, at least, especially when you also consider the very valiant and tireless charity work Bush has done in Africa fighting AIDS.

Trump on the other hand has no heart, no soul, no good intentions. Just pure evil to the bone.

It’s not even close.

[I Stand With TRKL1917]

Are there serious people who still think somehow Bush is worse?

Gimme a break...

Not everyone has American privilege, or thinks from the perspective only of those with American privilege.

This "Bush wasn't so bad" bullcrap is convincing me every day that the Maoist-Third Worldists are right.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Are there serious people who still think somehow Bush is worse?

Gimme a break...

Not everyone has American privilege, or thinks from the perspective only of those with American privilege.

This "Bush wasn't so bad" bullcrap is convincing me every day that the Maoist-Third Worldists are right.

Bush was "so bad." It's not unreasonable for Americans to think the guy who encouraged a coup against their own government is even worse.

[Vosem]

Bush, although I can't say he was particularly good either.

He's a map comparing Bush's 2000 performance (48% nationally) to Trump's 2020 performance (47%), on 2000s numbers. Bush is the Republican, Trump the Democrat (as they were in 2010, the midpoint of these years):

Bush wins, 289-249.

[Bootes Void]

Anyone who thinks Trump is worse than W believes that Muslim lives don’t matter. Full stop.

And anyone who think Bush is worse than Trump believes that Latino and Asian lives don't matter. Full stop

[I Stand With TRKL1917]

Anyone who thinks Trump is worse than W believes that Muslim lives don’t matter. Full stop.

And anyone who think Bush is worse than Trump believes that Latino and Asian lives don't matter. Full stop

Ever heard of Plan Colombia?

[LAKISYLVANIA]

Anyone who thinks Trump is worse than W believes that Muslim lives don’t matter. Full stop.

It's quite possible to think that protecting democracy and upholding the constitution is more important than lives.

Abraham Lincoln certainly believed that preserving the Union is more important than peoples' lives and George Washington believed American independence is more important than peoples' lives, so you can't say that there aren't precedents.

LOL... That's not true. Human lives are more important.

That being said, Trump lost all credibility he still had, as a human being it's W. but policy-wise it's still Trump because Bush created radical Islamic terrorism in the mess that's called Iraq now. If anything, without Iraq, Libya, Syria & Afghanistan, Clinton would've won and we would not be debating who is worse: W. or Trump. Because the radical Islam fueled right-wing populism and xenophobia. Trumpism is a result of Bushes failures.

Trump might be utter scum, but Bush is not better at the slightest!

[MT Treasurer]

I guess the psychopath/murderer/war criminal who killed fewer people is 'better' than the psychopath/murderer/war criminal who killed far more people, but both are scum? Not that difficult?

[Sirius_]

I guess the psychopath/murderer/war criminal who killed fewer people is 'better' than the psychopath/murderer/war criminal who killed far more people, but both are scum? Not that difficult?

350,000 is a lot of people.

[KaiserDave]

I guess the psychopath/murderer/war criminal who killed fewer people is 'better' than the psychopath/murderer/war criminal who killed far more people, but both are scum? Not that difficult?

350,000 is a lot of people.

If we want to use that standard (attributing all COVID deaths to Trump*), let's apply it broadly.



*Which, to attribute them all is not really accurate

[Gracile]

I guess the psychopath/murderer/war criminal who killed fewer people is 'better' than the psychopath/murderer/war criminal who killed far more people, but both are scum? Not that difficult?

350,000 is a lot of people.

This comment shows a tremendous amount of ignorance/callousness toward the lives of innocent non-Americans (both international COVID victims whose deaths couldn't really be attributed to Trump and civilians killed by America's wars).

[Sirius_]

I guess the psychopath/murderer/war criminal who killed fewer people is 'better' than the psychopath/murderer/war criminal who killed far more people, but both are scum? Not that difficult?

350,000 is a lot of people.

This comment shows a tremendous amount of ignorance/callousness toward the lives of innocent non-Americans (both international COVID victims whose deaths couldn't really be attributed to Trump and civilians killed by America's wars).

You know that the US has considerably more deaths than its peers in the developed world and you know that Trump has bungled this and resulted in many preventable deaths. I'm sure you're aware of that. Honestly the amount of mental gymnastics that is being done to declare Bush a worse president than Trump is absurd. We have been brought closer to the brink of the collapse of the republic since the civil war by him. He has blood on his hands and the rest of his body. He destroys international relations and makes America a joke. You are seeing an unprecedented failure of a president who is actively trying to subvert democracy and the founding principals of the United States like no other president ever has. The Iraq war was bad. But what did Bush that resembles all of this?