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« Reply #200 on: August 19, 2022, 06:21:42 PM »

The gov candidate was always gonna lose, my only concern is if Bailey starts to drag other republicans down with him.
It won’t, as Bailey would energize more people to the polls to help Republicans downballot than any other candidate.
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« Reply #201 on: August 21, 2022, 06:42:03 PM »

Bailey is again going around calling Chicago a “hellhole.” The funniest part is that he thinks people who live here agree with him. He is badly out of touch with the northern part of the state and he’s going to lose bigly for it.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/illinois-playbook/2022/08/19/baileys-back-with-hell-hole-00052844

(Not to say people here don’t realize Chicago has problems)
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« Reply #202 on: August 21, 2022, 07:47:12 PM »

Bailey is again going around calling Chicago a “hellhole.” The funniest part is that he thinks people who live here agree with him. He is badly out of touch with the northern part of the state and he’s going to lose bigly for it.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/illinois-playbook/2022/08/19/baileys-back-with-hell-hole-00052844

(Not to say people here don’t realize Chicago has problems)

I think it may be an attempt to try and swing a few suburbs his way. For all the stereotyping about the tension between whiter suburbs and inner-city minorities, these scaer tactics sometimes do work, just probably not enough to win, especially since a lot of whiter suburbs of Chicago are extremely liberal and would be turned off by this rhetoric.
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« Reply #203 on: August 21, 2022, 07:51:45 PM »

Bailey is again going around calling Chicago a “hellhole.” The funniest part is that he thinks people who live here agree with him. He is badly out of touch with the northern part of the state and he’s going to lose bigly for it.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/illinois-playbook/2022/08/19/baileys-back-with-hell-hole-00052844

(Not to say people here don’t realize Chicago has problems)

I think it may be an attempt to try and swing a few suburbs his way. For all the stereotyping about the tension between whiter suburbs and inner-city minorities, these scaer tactics sometimes do work, just probably not enough to win, especially since a lot of whiter suburbs of Chicago are extremely liberal and would be turned off by this rhetoric.

The only audience for calling Chicago a “hellhole” are downstate right wingers. Talking about crime in Chicago would resonate with suburbanites, but throwing the entire city under the bus will not. People from the suburbs come into the city to do things, cheer for Chicago sports teams, and generally have a strong cultural connection to the city.
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« Reply #204 on: August 21, 2022, 07:53:05 PM »

Bailey is again going around calling Chicago a “hellhole.” The funniest part is that he thinks people who live here agree with him. He is badly out of touch with the northern part of the state and he’s going to lose bigly for it.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/illinois-playbook/2022/08/19/baileys-back-with-hell-hole-00052844

(Not to say people here don’t realize Chicago has problems)

I think it may be an attempt to try and swing a few suburbs his way. For all the stereotyping about the tension between whiter suburbs and inner-city minorities, these scaer tactics sometimes do work, just probably not enough to win, especially since a lot of whiter suburbs of Chicago are extremely liberal and would be turned off by this rhetoric.

The only audience for calling Chicago a “hellhole” are downstate right wingers. Talking about crime in Chicago would resonate with suburbanites, but throwing the entire city under the bus will not. People from the suburbs come into the city to do things, cheer for Chicago sports teams, and generally have a strong cultural connection to the city.

Not saying it'll work by any means; prolly does him more harm than good, but in a more polarized Southern State it may not be as bad of a ploy.
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« Reply #205 on: August 22, 2022, 07:43:21 AM »

Bailey is again going around calling Chicago a “hellhole.” The funniest part is that he thinks people who live here agree with him. He is badly out of touch with the northern part of the state and he’s going to lose bigly for it.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/illinois-playbook/2022/08/19/baileys-back-with-hell-hole-00052844

(Not to say people here don’t realize Chicago has problems)

I think it may be an attempt to try and swing a few suburbs his way. For all the stereotyping about the tension between whiter suburbs and inner-city minorities, these scaer tactics sometimes do work, just probably not enough to win, especially since a lot of whiter suburbs of Chicago are extremely liberal and would be turned off by this rhetoric.

The only audience for calling Chicago a “hellhole” are downstate right wingers. Talking about crime in Chicago would resonate with suburbanites, but throwing the entire city under the bus will not. People from the suburbs come into the city to do things, cheer for Chicago sports teams, and generally have a strong cultural connection to the city.

Hard disagree on this one. Most suburbanites I know would either agree with this description or at least understand where he’s coming from, even those of us who love the city. It’s widely believed that it’s being terribly mismanaged.

Now using that kind of language isn’t the most productive thing because it reflects poorly on him, but it will always be helpful to keep the conversation strictly on crime, covid lockdowns, and job creation (or the loss of several Fortune 500 companies).
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« Reply #206 on: August 22, 2022, 07:57:00 AM »

Bailey is again going around calling Chicago a “hellhole.” The funniest part is that he thinks people who live here agree with him. He is badly out of touch with the northern part of the state and he’s going to lose bigly for it.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/illinois-playbook/2022/08/19/baileys-back-with-hell-hole-00052844

(Not to say people here don’t realize Chicago has problems)

I think it may be an attempt to try and swing a few suburbs his way. For all the stereotyping about the tension between whiter suburbs and inner-city minorities, these scaer tactics sometimes do work, just probably not enough to win, especially since a lot of whiter suburbs of Chicago are extremely liberal and would be turned off by this rhetoric.

The only audience for calling Chicago a “hellhole” are downstate right wingers. Talking about crime in Chicago would resonate with suburbanites, but throwing the entire city under the bus will not. People from the suburbs come into the city to do things, cheer for Chicago sports teams, and generally have a strong cultural connection to the city.

Hard disagree on this one. Most suburbanites I know would either agree with this description or at least understand where he’s coming from, even those of us who love the city. It’s widely believed that it’s being terribly mismanaged.

Now using that kind of language isn’t the most productive thing because it reflects poorly on him, but it will always be helpful to keep the conversation strictly on crime, covid lockdowns, and job creation (or the loss of several Fortune 500 companies).

A citizen talking about a city in their state is one thing, but an elected official talking that way about a city they want to *represent* is a whole different thing and pretty unbecoming of an elected official. The double standard continues - Dems always have to treat the rural areas with kid gloves and "respect" them, but GOP can say whatever they want about the cities.
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« Reply #207 on: August 22, 2022, 08:11:43 AM »

Bailey is again going around calling Chicago a “hellhole.” The funniest part is that he thinks people who live here agree with him. He is badly out of touch with the northern part of the state and he’s going to lose bigly for it.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/illinois-playbook/2022/08/19/baileys-back-with-hell-hole-00052844

(Not to say people here don’t realize Chicago has problems)

I think it may be an attempt to try and swing a few suburbs his way. For all the stereotyping about the tension between whiter suburbs and inner-city minorities, these scaer tactics sometimes do work, just probably not enough to win, especially since a lot of whiter suburbs of Chicago are extremely liberal and would be turned off by this rhetoric.

The only audience for calling Chicago a “hellhole” are downstate right wingers. Talking about crime in Chicago would resonate with suburbanites, but throwing the entire city under the bus will not. People from the suburbs come into the city to do things, cheer for Chicago sports teams, and generally have a strong cultural connection to the city.

Hard disagree on this one. Most suburbanites I know would either agree with this description or at least understand where he’s coming from, even those of us who love the city. It’s widely believed that it’s being terribly mismanaged.

Now using that kind of language isn’t the most productive thing because it reflects poorly on him, but it will always be helpful to keep the conversation strictly on crime, covid lockdowns, and job creation (or the loss of several Fortune 500 companies).

A citizen talking about a city in their state is one thing, but an elected official talking that way about a city they want to *represent* is a whole different thing and pretty unbecoming of an elected official. The double standard continues - Dems always have to treat the rural areas with kid gloves and "respect" them, but GOP can say whatever they want about the cities.

I very much agree with you that it’s unbecoming and don’t approve of him saying that. My comments were strictly about the electoral impact being a nothing burger, something that at least gets the conversation moving towards a favorable issue and at most comes off as “honest” or “authentic” (not unlike Beto using swear words at live events)
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« Reply #208 on: August 22, 2022, 06:10:52 PM »

Got a YouTube ad earlier today from Pritzker which is just the clip of Bailey’s abortion/Holocaust comment with added subtitles. Only indication of who is speaking is if you know Bailey’s face or look at his shirt; only indication of who paid for the ad is in the fine print.
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« Reply #209 on: August 22, 2022, 08:39:19 PM »

Got a YouTube ad earlier today from Pritzker which is just the clip of Bailey’s abortion/Holocaust comment with added subtitles. Only indication of who is speaking is if you know Bailey’s face or look at his shirt; only indication of who paid for the ad is in the fine print.

Well the average voter is going to associate anti-abortion rhetoric with the GOP anyway so it's moreso a generic ad than say the Tudor Dixon ads whitmer has run
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« Reply #210 on: September 20, 2022, 12:22:01 AM »

Lol

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« Reply #211 on: September 20, 2022, 08:55:31 AM »

LMAO Bailey's own internal has him at -10 favorability while Pritzker is +3
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« Reply #212 on: September 20, 2022, 04:52:52 PM »

Lol



This is...something.
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« Reply #213 on: September 26, 2022, 08:27:11 PM »

Might Pritzker run for President in 2028?
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« Reply #214 on: September 27, 2022, 03:57:41 AM »

I doubt it, he looks too much like Blago but Ryan is looking to run for Prez since he already ran in 2020
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« Reply #215 on: September 27, 2022, 03:20:04 PM »


It's possible. It seems like he dropped some hints that he'd be open to 2024 in the event that Biden doesn't run again, but whether he can win the nomination or, if he were to get nominated, the general election is up for debate.
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« Reply #216 on: October 09, 2022, 12:23:19 AM »

At the debate Thursday night, Darren Bailey bashed unions and told them to "stay in your lane" when mentioning the Workers' Rights Amendment.
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« Reply #217 on: October 09, 2022, 01:07:30 AM »

At the debate Thursday night, Darren Bailey bashed unions and told them to "stay in your lane" when mentioning the Workers' Rights Amendment.

Winning as a blue state Republican 101: Don't f@ck with unions
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« Reply #218 on: October 09, 2022, 01:23:10 AM »

Lol



“Abortion & Holocaust”

jeez
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« Reply #219 on: October 10, 2022, 04:33:34 AM »

Lol



“Abortion & Holocaust”

jeez

It's the 2022 version of "amnesty, abortion and acid" but not nearly as cool.
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« Reply #220 on: October 11, 2022, 08:46:28 AM »



I don't think this will make much of a difference since nobody really bases their votes on newspaper endorsements anymore (especially true for a publication that endorsed Gary Johnson in 2016 lol). However, it's still pretty notable given the Trib's conservative history and endorsing GOP gubernatorial nominees for as long as I can remember.
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« Reply #221 on: October 11, 2022, 08:49:28 AM »

Bailey is on par with Masters, Cox, Mastriano and Oz and Dixon that's gonna lose biggly by 10 pts 55/45
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« Reply #222 on: October 12, 2022, 04:20:58 PM »

The Trib's endorsement may not impact many votes, but it might give an indication of how the business community (and business-oriented suburbanites) are feeling. That's usually who the e-board speaks for (hence the third party endorsement in 2016, lol).

Good get for Pritzker. Bailey is a trash candidate and suburban Republicans don't like him.
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« Reply #223 on: October 18, 2022, 09:20:32 PM »

So... Who watched the debate tonight? I think Pritzker did much better this time than he did in the first debate while Gomer Bailey s**t the bed.
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« Reply #224 on: October 18, 2022, 09:27:00 PM »

Bailey is on par with Masters, Cox, Mastriano and Oz and Dixon that's gonna lose biggly by 10 pts 55/45

I really hope you are right.
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