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« on: December 27, 2020, 11:16:51 PM »

(Note: venture into any of these sites at your own peril. I hope you have several loads of VPNs and such though)

God f•••ing damnit, why does everything I love turn to s••• so soon.

Backstory: The entente that was Bunkerchan: Bunkerchan was predominantly a board made to tailor to “Marxist-Leninists” and anyone who heard about it. It was founded after the fire that was old Lefty/pol/ on 8chan, taking heat from sectarian drama and the nuking of their main platform. It was founded as a work in progress signed by three main organizations among the online left; the not-that-racist /b/ users alienated primarily by the racism and hostile takeover of 4Chan by Stormfront cucks, the Lefty/pol/ers wanting to still create a space for MLs outside of Reddit online, and the dominant faction of regressive leftists looking to virtue signal led by admin $pace_.

Originally founded as an equal agreement between the three actors, $pace_ and his clique took over the site without following the equal agreement. He refused to promote the two other factions to adminship, and ran it de facto by his own rules. The failure to achieve equal footing and formulate democratic centralism, which is rarely done right by the Left, both on-and-offline, sowed it’s doom even when it looked unbreakable.

Factional conflict, user uprisings, and success: the growth of the site as an alternative to the Reddit subs was a testament to its success. It surpassed its expectations by getting more nominal and “serious” users and posts then during the 8chan days. This was not without conflict

The first real test for the site was the drama around $pace_’s autocratic cronyism. He put his socially conservative, opportunist allies in charge of the site while he gained a sort of fake fama if you will. One mod in particular spammed any and all threads with anti-trans trolling which killed a lot of good discussion. In anger of the site being turned into the /CPGB/Chan, a user revolution took place. People threatened to quit the site and the middle echelons condemned him. It got far past the point where $pace_ had to demod him to save face. While a watershed moment that led to immense growth and ample discussion, it would be too good to last in the hands of the opportunist dominant faction...

The Soft War: GETchan, animated child pornography, and furries—the double standard: $pace_ continued to wreck the site even in spite of its success. Like most /pol/ “converts” Petit-piglet aspirants, he still harbored the old resentment on gender nonconformism. This was evident on his treatment of the furry community. Furry threads, even though being constantly contained and behaving by site standards, would be saged and anchored unfairly by him and his cronies. This was condemned even when furry threads were one of the most successful, however other vices...

...We’re left to stay, like animated CP. Like most /pol/ converts and anti-idpol leftists, $pace_ was clearly a closeted pedophile and social pariah, using his highschool coding expertise to mainly gain recognition online. He allowed them to stay for a while until the community instantly went berserk given a) the fact that it risks the site being taken down and b) s•••s gross. Unfortunately, the action pissed off the /GET/posters as being the last straw. A split was inevitable.

$pace_ is literally Tojo Hiroshimoot: On discord, which is a bane to the modern left, the idiot announced he wanted google analytics moni. To old school /b/posters and revolutionary wannabes, this was enough to warrant a split. A site mainly built on generals powering through the niche discussion, and whose maintenance was powered by these forces, left in anger. These spinoffs are currently in maintenance with GET being the only one right now with their own site. Either way, the loss of face and threat of further alienating users has caused space to hibernate their plans on grifting.

Reddit: The major issue of upvotes, mod drama, and censorship caused the creation of an online left taking inspiration from imageboards rather than a mess still holding on to Cali ideology. Yet bunkerchan failed to be better on the last two points now compared to the now remaining spaces of note; r/socialism and r/communism. Tbh, they got better after the Bernie shills and Dengists went their own way, but Reddit’s faultlines of producing another axing of chapo means that no one is safe. Woe is us, the armchair left, without a stable home and always on the edge of splits the working class doesn’t look on well.

I miss BO

tl:dr

1) don’t let social conservatives be a major part of leftist organization
2) always have backup plans
3) never trust anyone, even yourself

A lot of this is disjointed and choppy, because anger and tiredness has taken me. How does the right survive so easily with having alternative platforms?
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2020, 11:17:10 AM »

So far Leftypol seems to have a functioning site as well.

https://www.getchan.net/GET/
https://leftypol.org/

Obviously visit at your own risks with protection or otherwise

My proposal is that leftypol and GET should merge, but I understand if they don’t given what has happened. Still, considering that the former has /b/...
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