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« on: December 21, 2020, 05:08:09 AM »
« edited: December 21, 2020, 05:12:03 AM by King's Cross St. Pancras »

Biden won by 14 points in Colorado, but the US house vote was only around 9% points. Are there lots of ticket splitters? More like well educated suburbanites who only voted for Biden because they despise Trump?
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2020, 06:58:15 AM »
« Edited: December 21, 2020, 08:35:00 AM by VARepublican »

Yes, Democrats underperformed in the suburbs, which is basically what happened nationwide. For example, Trump won El Paso County (Colorado Springs) by 11%, Gardner won it by 16%, and Doug Lamborn (the Republican incumbent in CO-05) won it by 19%. Likewise, Jason Crow did two points worse than Biden in CO-06 (Denver suburbs). Biden, Hickenlooper, and Mitsch Bush all won Pueblo County, yet the latter two did a tad worse than the former.

Here's the results by congressional district:

CO-01 (City of Denver): Biden +53.5, DeGette +50
CO-02 (Boulder + Fort Collins): Biden +30, Neguse +26
CO-03: (Western Slope + Grand Junction + Pueblo + ski towns like Aspen): Trump +5.5, Boebert +6
CO-04 (Eastern Plains): Trump +16, Buck +23.5
CO-05 (Colorado Springs): Trump +13, Lamborn +20
CO-06 (Aurora): Biden +19, Crow +17
CO-07 (West Denver suburbs): Biden +23, Perlmutter +21.5

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/19/1163009/-Daily-Kos-Elections-presidential-results-by-congressional-district-for-2020-2016-and-2012

It's worth noting that it's not just suburban ancestrally R Biden voters splitting their tickets, though. Ken Buck performed significantly better than Trump in his rural district.
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2020, 08:29:48 AM »

Yes, Democrats underperformed in the suburbs, which is basically what happened nationwide. For example, Trump won El Paso County (Colorado Springs) by 11%, Gardner won it by 16%, and Doug Lamborn (the Republican incumbent in CO-05) won it by 19%. Likewise, Jason Crow did two points worse than Biden in CO-06 (Denver suburbs). Biden, Hickenlooper, and Mitsch Bush all won Pueblo County, yet the latter two did a tad worse than the former.

Here's the results by congressional district:

CO-01 (City of Denver): Biden +53.5, DeGette +50
CO-02 (Boulder + Fort Collins): Biden +30, Neguse +26
CO-03: (Western Slope + Grand Junction + Pueblo + ski towns like Aspen): Trump +5.5, Boebert +6
CO-04 (Eastern Plains): Trump +16, Buck +23.5
CO-05 (Colorado Springs): Trump +13, Lamborn +20
CO-06 (Aurora): Biden +19, Crow +17
CO-07 (West Denver suburbs): Biden +23, Perlmutter +21.5

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/19/1163009/-Daily-Kos-Elections-presidential-results-by-congressional-district-for-2020-2016-and-2012

It's worth noting that it's not just suburban ancestrally R Biden voters splitting their tickets, though. Ken Buck performed significantly better than Trump in his rural district.

Ken Bucks district is not really rural. 80% of the district lives in Douglas or Weld. Its more exurban/suburban with a few people who live in the plains portion.
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2020, 08:31:30 AM »

Yes, Democrats underperformed in the suburbs, which is basically what happened nationwide. For example, Trump won El Paso County (Colorado Springs) by 11%, Gardner won it by 16%, and Doug Lamborn (the Republican incumbent in CO-05) won it by 19%. Likewise, Jason Crow did two points worse than Biden in CO-06 (Denver suburbs). Biden, Hickenlooper, and Mitsch Bush all won Pueblo County, yet the latter two did a tad worse than the former.

Here's the results by congressional district:

CO-01 (City of Denver): Biden +53.5, DeGette +50
CO-02 (Boulder + Fort Collins): Biden +30, Neguse +26
CO-03: (Western Slope + Grand Junction + Pueblo + ski towns like Aspen): Trump +5.5, Boebert +6
CO-04 (Eastern Plains): Trump +16, Buck +23.5
CO-05 (Colorado Springs): Trump +13, Lamborn +20
CO-06 (Aurora): Biden +19, Crow +17
CO-07 (West Denver suburbs): Biden +23, Perlmutter +21.5

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/19/1163009/-Daily-Kos-Elections-presidential-results-by-congressional-district-for-2020-2016-and-2012

It's worth noting that it's not just suburban ancestrally R Biden voters splitting their tickets, though. Ken Buck performed significantly better than Trump in his rural district.

I can get a Biden-generic R voter, but who would split their ticket for Boebert! It really concerns me that people like Boebert and MTG overperformed Trump in their districts.
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2020, 08:33:50 AM »

Yes, Democrats underperformed in the suburbs, which is basically what happened nationwide. For example, Trump won El Paso County (Colorado Springs) by 11%, Gardner won it by 16%, and Doug Lamborn (the Republican incumbent in CO-05) won it by 19%. Likewise, Jason Crow did two points worse than Biden in CO-06 (Denver suburbs). Biden, Hickenlooper, and Mitsch Bush all won Pueblo County, yet the latter two did a tad worse than the former.

Here's the results by congressional district:

CO-01 (City of Denver): Biden +53.5, DeGette +50
CO-02 (Boulder + Fort Collins): Biden +30, Neguse +26
CO-03: (Western Slope + Grand Junction + Pueblo + ski towns like Aspen): Trump +5.5, Boebert +6
CO-04 (Eastern Plains): Trump +16, Buck +23.5
CO-05 (Colorado Springs): Trump +13, Lamborn +20
CO-06 (Aurora): Biden +19, Crow +17
CO-07 (West Denver suburbs): Biden +23, Perlmutter +21.5

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/19/1163009/-Daily-Kos-Elections-presidential-results-by-congressional-district-for-2020-2016-and-2012

It's worth noting that it's not just suburban ancestrally R Biden voters splitting their tickets, though. Ken Buck performed significantly better than Trump in his rural district.

Ken Bucks district is not really rural. 80% of the district lives in Douglas or Weld.

Yes, it seems that you're right (I'm surprised, given its size).
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2020, 08:40:06 AM »

I can get a Biden-generic R voter, but who would split their ticket for Boebert! It really concerns me that people like Boebert and MTG overperformed Trump in their districts.

Honestly, from an objective standpoint, Lauren Boebert is a Generic R.
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2020, 09:24:23 AM »

What's Interesting is that the total votes cast for the congressional candidates was around 3.165 million while for the president it was around 3.256 million. So there were about 90k voters in Colorado who didn't bother to vote for congressional candidate or other downballot races at all.
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2020, 11:15:56 AM »

I can get a Biden-generic R voter, but who would split their ticket for Boebert! It really concerns me that people like Boebert and MTG overperformed Trump in their districts.

Honestly, from an objective standpoint, Lauren Boebert is a Generic R.

Agreed. Boebert is certainly more conservative (or more Trumpist) than Scott Tipton is, but to her credit, she largely focused on the issues during her congressional campaign, and isn't nearly as crazed or conspiracy-prone as Taylor-Greene is.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2020, 11:18:37 AM »

Yes, Democrats underperformed in the suburbs, which is basically what happened nationwide. For example, Trump won El Paso County (Colorado Springs) by 11%, Gardner won it by 16%, and Doug Lamborn (the Republican incumbent in CO-05) won it by 19%. Likewise, Jason Crow did two points worse than Biden in CO-06 (Denver suburbs). Biden, Hickenlooper, and Mitsch Bush all won Pueblo County, yet the latter two did a tad worse than the former.

Here's the results by congressional district:

CO-01 (City of Denver): Biden +53.5, DeGette +50
CO-02 (Boulder + Fort Collins): Biden +30, Neguse +26
CO-03: (Western Slope + Grand Junction + Pueblo + ski towns like Aspen): Trump +5.5, Boebert +6
CO-04 (Eastern Plains): Trump +16, Buck +23.5
CO-05 (Colorado Springs): Trump +13, Lamborn +20
CO-06 (Aurora): Biden +19, Crow +17
CO-07 (West Denver suburbs): Biden +23, Perlmutter +21.5

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/19/1163009/-Daily-Kos-Elections-presidential-results-by-congressional-district-for-2020-2016-and-2012

It's worth noting that it's not just suburban ancestrally R Biden voters splitting their tickets, though. Ken Buck performed significantly better than Trump in his rural district.

I was aware of Gardner's overperformance over Trump in El Paso County, and elsewhere in the Front Range Urban Corridor, but I'm surprised that Lamborn ran ahead of both of them. He's an unremarkable and craven backbencher.
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2020, 02:22:55 PM »

Because that's how a realignment works!
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2020, 04:53:24 PM »

Yes, Democrats underperformed in the suburbs, which is basically what happened nationwide. For example, Trump won El Paso County (Colorado Springs) by 11%, Gardner won it by 16%, and Doug Lamborn (the Republican incumbent in CO-05) won it by 19%. Likewise, Jason Crow did two points worse than Biden in CO-06 (Denver suburbs). Biden, Hickenlooper, and Mitsch Bush all won Pueblo County, yet the latter two did a tad worse than the former.

Here's the results by congressional district:

CO-01 (City of Denver): Biden +53.5, DeGette +50
CO-02 (Boulder + Fort Collins): Biden +30, Neguse +26
CO-03: (Western Slope + Grand Junction + Pueblo + ski towns like Aspen): Trump +5.5, Boebert +6
CO-04 (Eastern Plains): Trump +16, Buck +23.5
CO-05 (Colorado Springs): Trump +13, Lamborn +20
CO-06 (Aurora): Biden +19, Crow +17
CO-07 (West Denver suburbs): Biden +23, Perlmutter +21.5

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/19/1163009/-Daily-Kos-Elections-presidential-results-by-congressional-district-for-2020-2016-and-2012

It's worth noting that it's not just suburban ancestrally R Biden voters splitting their tickets, though. Ken Buck performed significantly better than Trump in his rural district.

I was aware of Gardner's overperformance over Trump in El Paso County, and elsewhere in the Front Range Urban Corridor, but I'm surprised that Lamborn ran ahead of both of them. He's an unremarkable and craven backbencher.

When you're a longtime incumbent and that your challenger is some underfunded dude things like that happen.
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2020, 05:01:53 PM »

Because Republicans have a structural majority since ~2000 but keep blowing it by nominating bad candidates at different levels.
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2020, 05:12:15 PM »

Yes, Democrats underperformed in the suburbs, which is basically what happened nationwide. For example, Trump won El Paso County (Colorado Springs) by 11%, Gardner won it by 16%, and Doug Lamborn (the Republican incumbent in CO-05) won it by 19%. Likewise, Jason Crow did two points worse than Biden in CO-06 (Denver suburbs). Biden, Hickenlooper, and Mitsch Bush all won Pueblo County, yet the latter two did a tad worse than the former.

Here's the results by congressional district:

CO-01 (City of Denver): Biden +53.5, DeGette +50
CO-02 (Boulder + Fort Collins): Biden +30, Neguse +26
CO-03: (Western Slope + Grand Junction + Pueblo + ski towns like Aspen): Trump +5.5, Boebert +6
CO-04 (Eastern Plains): Trump +16, Buck +23.5
CO-05 (Colorado Springs): Trump +13, Lamborn +20
CO-06 (Aurora): Biden +19, Crow +17
CO-07 (West Denver suburbs): Biden +23, Perlmutter +21.5

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/19/1163009/-Daily-Kos-Elections-presidential-results-by-congressional-district-for-2020-2016-and-2012

It's worth noting that it's not just suburban ancestrally R Biden voters splitting their tickets, though. Ken Buck performed significantly better than Trump in his rural district.

I was aware of Gardner's overperformance over Trump in El Paso County, and elsewhere in the Front Range Urban Corridor, but I'm surprised that Lamborn ran ahead of both of them. He's an unremarkable and craven backbencher.

When you're a longtime incumbent and that your challenger is some underfunded dude things like that happen.

Well, as I've said before, I live in CO-05, and am therefore a constituent of Lamborn's. So I'm very well aware of the political conditions here. Jillian Freeland, Lamborn's opponent this year, did about as well as Stephany Rose-Spaulding, his 2018 opponent, who actually ran a semblance of a campaign. I saw only one ad for Freeland this year, but at least two different ones, multiple times, for Spaulding.
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