Will AOC/Bernie wing abandon Biden?

[SN2903]

I don't see how they don't. Biden is a neoliberal and he isn't going to institute the policies they want.

[Bootes Void]

when were they ever with him? its only a question of the general election but this stuff always seems overblown imo

[Catalunya]

Define abandon.

Run a primary challenger against Kamala Harris? Definitely, but not Bernie or AOC themselves. Run a primary challenger against Biden? Maaaaybe Nina Turner. Run Third Party? Can’t see that happen. Be less enthusiastic than in 2020? Almost definitely, but I don’t think it will be so much disappointmet that it will affect the results by even 1%.

[PSOL]

The DSA will never break with the Democratic Party.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

The DSA will never break with the Democratic Party.

But the Democratic Party will break with the DSA.

[ajc0918]

I could see a left-wing party emerge in deep blue cities in the western U.S. that could serve as an alternative to democratic nominees. Probably more impactful in local and state races.

[pppolitics]

It depends on a who is the nominee is.

If it's a normal Republican (i.e. Kasich), the far left might just sit out the election.

If it's a Trumper, the far left will come out to vote.

[AGA]

They already did.

[PSOL]

The DSA will never break with the Democratic Party.

But the Democratic Party will break with the DSA.

Yeah, when they see no use for them and they become a viability maybe.

I could see a left-wing party emerge in deep blue cities in the western U.S. that could serve as an alternative to democratic nominees. Probably more impactful in local and state races.

The people who vote for the DSA/Bernie/AOC and the people who would be willing to vote for an alternative are usually dissimilar individuals.

They already did.

Considering that AOC and Bernie Sanders are still in the Democratic Party and what is essentially an absolute majority of their supporters voted for Biden as well, yeah...

If either the politicians, DSA, or the voters ever did abandon the party it would have been openly visible. Given that the DSA and Jacobin Magazine didn’t issue a break, just a “challenge” within the Democratic Party—there is no break. Given that Hawkins completely failed at attracting any Berniebro to the Green Party, the voters didn’t. Bernie endorsed Biden and AOC takes selfies with Nancy Pelosi, they especially didn’t.

What’s happening now cannot be called a break from either Biden or the Democratic Party, no serious criticism within the confines of the party nor sweeping policy battles are occurring, it’s just normal party politics

[GALeftist]

It depends on a who is the nominee is.

If it's a normal Republican (i.e. Kasich), the far left might just sit out the election.

If it's a Trumper, the far left will come out to vote.

This is about my take. Exit polls (I know they're unreliable but still) indicated a really big portion of Dems voted primarily against Trump, and I would bet that Berniecrats were a sizable portion of those people. If the nominee is anyone from Kasich to Haley to maybe even Hawley, where voters don't see a sufficiently large policy difference between the candidates I suspect turnout will deflate, but if it's someone like Cotton or DJT Jr. (or Cruz) I think Biden/Harris will have an easier time getting them to the polls.

[McGarnagle]

Would I vote for a progressive challenger in 2024 if they run against Biden or Harris for the Democratic nomination? Most likely I would.

That said, I expect that Biden or Harris will win the nomination, and I'll end up voting for them against Pence in November of '24.