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« on: December 02, 2020, 03:54:01 PM »
« edited: December 02, 2020, 04:01:22 PM by King's Cross St. Pancras »

It's crazy to think that though California is a titanium blue state, Trump still received the most votes ever there for a republican candidate from any state in the entire US history at around 5,994,674 (probably gets to 6 Million once all the votes are counted.) Slightly more than Texas (5,890,347) and Florida (5,668,731). It goes to show no matter how liberal and democratic California is, it still has more Trump supporters than any other state in the entire country.
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2020, 03:57:50 PM »

Even then it's still 34% of the state's population. But also illustrates why it's idiotic for people (and I see both sides doing this) to treat a state's entire population as monolithic single-minded because of how it voted.
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2020, 04:01:26 PM »

Do you really expect this to last in 2022, Cox is not a typical R and when he ran in 2018, he wasn't a lousy GOTV getter than Trump, when he runs again 2022, D's are gonna duplicate their 2018, due to fact Trumpians aren't on the ballot

Californians area is SF, SAC, Santa Monica, Orange, and Los Angeles
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2020, 04:03:41 PM »

Your response doesn't really make sense or how is it related to the topic.
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2020, 04:05:02 PM »

Your response doesn't really make sense or how is it related to the topic.

You are the one putting up pro R Cali threads not me lol
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2020, 04:21:15 PM »

You're highlighting a very critcial point on why the Electoral College is flawed. It doesn't matter that 6M Californians voted for Trump because more people in that state happened to support Biden.
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2020, 04:31:55 PM »

Your response doesn't really make sense or how is it related to the topic.

You are the one putting up pro R Cali threads not me lol

You dropped this 👑
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2020, 04:47:30 PM »

You're highlighting a very critcial point on why the Electoral College is flawed. It doesn't matter that 6M Californians voted for Trump because more people in that state happened to support Biden.

Quite true, and if California were to give it's electoral votes the same way as Maine and Nebraska does, it would still be around 46-9. Which still doesn't give justice to the 6 Million or 34% of California who voted for Trump.
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2020, 04:50:25 PM »

California almost always gave the most votes to either party candidates because its the most populous. I think 2016 was an exception to that
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2020, 05:00:34 PM »

California almost always gave the most votes to either party candidates because its the most populous. I think 2016 was an exception to that

That's a given. What's truly mind-numbing is that we all see California as a Democratic Utopia, an impenetrable dominion of left-wing governance. Even the media exaggerates how they portray California as somewhat 90% Minority or 99.99999% Liberal, when the fact is it is where you can also find the most number of republican voters in the whole nation.
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2020, 05:40:30 PM »

California almost always gave the most votes to either party candidates because its the most populous. I think 2016 was an exception to that

That's a given. What's truly mind-numbing is that we all see California as a Democratic Utopia, an impenetrable dominion of left-wing governance. Even the media exaggerates how they portray California as somewhat 90% Minority or 99.99999% Liberal, when the fact is it is where you can also find the most number of republican voters in the whole nation.
Well, the same thing happens with Texas but in reverse. Texas is portrayed as a conservative/Republican utopia with nothing but gun-toting cowboys and oil executives.
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2020, 05:51:21 PM »

Even then it's still 34% of the state's population. But also illustrates why it's idiotic for people (and I see both sides doing this) to treat a state's entire population as monolithic single-minded because of how it voted.

Approximately one of every three people supporting a candidate is still a large proportion even if they're outnumbered 2:1. It's a lot more difficult to find a place that is overwhelmingly dominated by one side of the political spectrum than it is to find a place with large numbers of both sides.
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2020, 07:12:17 PM »

You're highlighting a very critcial point on why the Electoral College is flawed. It doesn't matter that 6M Californians voted for Trump because more people in that state happened to support Biden.
Quite true, and if California were to give it's electoral votes the same way as Maine and Nebraska does, it would still be around 46-9. Which still doesn't give justice to the 6 Million or 34% of California who voted for Trump.
Electoral votes could also be awarded proportionally, which would probably be the easiest way to give a voice to Dem voters in red states and vice versa without abandoning the EC (besides the Interstate PV Compact).
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2020, 07:16:34 PM »

You're highlighting a very critcial point on why the Electoral College is flawed. It doesn't matter that 6M Californians voted for Trump because more people in that state happened to support Biden.
Quite true, and if California were to give it's electoral votes the same way as Maine and Nebraska does, it would still be around 46-9. Which still doesn't give justice to the 6 Million or 34% of California who voted for Trump.

Would nationwide EV-by-CD have helped Biden at the tipping point?  IRC it would have helped Hillary, but not dramatically.  On the other hand, nationwide EV-by-CD would have elected Romney in 2012.
Electoral votes could also be awarded proportionally, which would probably be the easiest way to give a voice to Dem voters in red states and vice versa without abandoning the EC (besides the Interstate PV Compact).
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2020, 04:05:30 PM »
« Edited: December 03, 2020, 07:29:31 PM by politicallefty »

A lot of this has to do with population of course. In that vein, this is the first time since 2000 that Texas cast more ballots for President than Florida. Florida is always a battleground, so its turnout just keeps going higher and higher. However, I think there's little doubt that despite the overall margin, Texas voters were engaged in this election in a way they haven't been in quite some time.

In terms of turnout, California has tended to lag the nation. This year, it looks like turnout in California was 69%, higher than the roughly 67% nationwide. I think part of that is the shift to a more mail-centric voting system, as those states have some of the highest turnout. Automatic voter registration and same-day voter registration certainly doesn't hurt either. Texas usually barely gets above 50% turnout in presidential elections, but was over 60% this year. Florida's turnout was apparently nearly 72%. Biden only got 38k fewer votes in Texas than Florida. The difference between the two states for Hillary was almost 630k.
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