How much of a hawk is Biden going to be in his term?

[Woody]

He's filling his cabinet with hawks, he brags to the world that America "is back in the game" aka bombing people in the Middle East and fighting wars for Israel, he thinks Russia is the #1 enemy instead of China (hmm wonder why that is), he also wants wants Antony Blinken for SoS, known warmonger. Not to when both him and Biden proposed their psychotic plans to partition Iraq.

So will Biden end up being more interventionist than Obama?

[OSR stands with Israel]

I fear its gonna be in the wrong places, we need to focus on regime change in Venezuela not Syria

[Goldwater]

So will Biden end up being more interventionist than Obama?

I sure hope so!

[Pericles]

America is back in the game because people overseas like here in New Zealand no longer think you're a mess and a joke but will respect America again. America's reputation will be greatly enhanced and Biden can bring other nations together on stuff like climate change, the Covid response and yes taking on Russia and China. There will also be no more of these dumb job killing trade wars.

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America is back in the game because people overseas like here in New Zealand no longer think you're a mess and a joke but will respect America again. America's reputation will be greatly enhanced and Biden can bring other nations together on stuff like climate change, the Covid response and yes taking on Russia and China. There will also be no more of these dumb job killing trade wars.

Yes, Biden will be very good at preserving Chinese jobs.

[Pericles]

America is back in the game because people overseas like here in New Zealand no longer think you're a mess and a joke but will respect America again. America's reputation will be greatly enhanced and Biden can bring other nations together on stuff like climate change, the Covid response and yes taking on Russia and China. There will also be no more of these dumb job killing trade wars.

Yes, Biden will be very good at preserving Chinese jobs.

Free trade is better for everyone, it's American jobs that Trump killed.

[Biden Stans Are Cringelords]

I fear its gonna be in the wrong places, we need to focus on regime change in Venezuela not Syria

We need to focus on "regime change" nowhere, and start focusing on helping our own people. Sanctions are responsible for Venezuela's plight, as Bolton admitted the criminals running this country want their oil.

[Tartarus Sauce]

I fear its gonna be in the wrong places, we need to focus on regime change in Venezuela not Syria

Yes, it’s time for our foreign policy establishment to recognize that the natural and historical playground for US foreign adventurism is Latin America and the Caribbean.

[Mr. Smith]

Unlikely to be of any significant difference. There hasn't truly been an open window for non-interventionism since the fallout of 'Nam, and that window closed with Iran/Afghanistan in the 70's.

[Crumpets]

Very little. I imagine he might increase our troop contingent in Syria a bit as an apology to the SDF for Trump throwing them under the bus, but that's about it. Iraq probably stays pretty static unless we're either ordered out by the PM or there's a major resurgence of ISIL. Afghanistan I think is pretty much over no matter how you slice it. Yemen, who knows, but I really doubt Biden would be more hawkish and pro-Saudi than Trump. Iran we probably have a very minor rapprochement. North Korea, again, who knows, but the ball is more in their court on that one.

[Hermit For Peace]

How much time is he going to have? I think there are WAY more important things that he is going to be forced to deal with. People aren't going to stand for being ignored anymore like we have been, in favor of big business, big war, big pharmaceutical, big money interests getting most of the pie....big has become synonymous with "bad."

I have faith that Biden will do the right thing. Take care of the people first.

[Gren]

He's filling his cabinet with hawks, he brags to the world that America "is back in the game" aka bombing people in the Middle East and fighting wars for Israel, he thinks Russia is the #1 enemy instead of China (hmm wonder why that is), he also wants wants Antony Blinken for SoS, known warmonger. Not to when both him and Biden proposed their psychotic plans to partition Iraq.

So will Biden end up being more interventionist than Obama?

Trump has bombed A LOT in the Middle East. I've heard this recurring "NO NEW WARS!" theme from Trump supporters time and time again, as if he were a pacificst. He isn't. In fact, he's broken records for bombing Afghanistan and Yemen.

[Red Velvet]

Well, if Obama kept burning your money with failed wars and interventions then I’m not sure why Biden would be any better since he was even harsher than Obama, at least based on speech. At “best”  he’ll keep Obama’s approach.

[JA]

The world of global geopolitics is shifting away from large scale military interventions as we engaged in over the past century. Unfortunately, that doesn't automatically mean that we're going to downscale our foreign involvement. We should expect a Biden Administration to be more active in global affairs than Trump's - that's a given. However, it'll likely consist of multilateral interventions that are more restricted to small, targeted deployments and a greater reliance on cyberwarfare, surveillance, utilizing free trade agreements to benefit allies and indirectly harm enemies, and drone warfare.

Will Biden be more interventionist and active in world affairs in those ways? Yes, he certainly will. They'll likely be for short-term US and allied gain, but the long-term consequences of foreign interventions infrequently yield positive results.

[Red Velvet]

He's filling his cabinet with hawks, he brags to the world that America "is back in the game" aka bombing people in the Middle East and fighting wars for Israel, he thinks Russia is the #1 enemy instead of China (hmm wonder why that is), he also wants wants Antony Blinken for SoS, known warmonger. Not to when both him and Biden proposed their psychotic plans to partition Iraq.

So will Biden end up being more interventionist than Obama?

Trump has bombed A LOT in the Middle East. I've heard this recurring "NO NEW WARS!" theme from Trump supporters time and time again, as if he were a pacificst. He isn't. In fact, he's broken records for bombing Afghanistan and Yemen.

The Trump base anti-war movement isn’t about bringing “peace” to people in other countries and respecting their lives and sovereignty though. They don’t care, just like democrats don’t too. You miss the point if you think they care whether Trump is a pacifist.

It is an anti-war movement with more nationalist arguments, such as protecting lives of Americans instead of unnecessarily risking their lives for nothing and also focusing more on internal issues than wasting time and money doing stuff in other places. Goes back to their “America First” slogan and calls to bring troops back to the country.

[Gren]

He's filling his cabinet with hawks, he brags to the world that America "is back in the game" aka bombing people in the Middle East and fighting wars for Israel, he thinks Russia is the #1 enemy instead of China (hmm wonder why that is), he also wants wants Antony Blinken for SoS, known warmonger. Not to when both him and Biden proposed their psychotic plans to partition Iraq.

So will Biden end up being more interventionist than Obama?

Trump has bombed A LOT in the Middle East. I've heard this recurring "NO NEW WARS!" theme from Trump supporters time and time again, as if he were a pacificst. He isn't. In fact, he's broken records for bombing Afghanistan and Yemen.

The Trump base anti-war movement isn’t about bringing “peace” to people in other countries and respecting their lives and sovereignty though. They don’t care, just like democrats don’t too. You miss the point if you think they care whether Trump is a pacifist.

It is an anti-war movement with more nationalist arguments, such as protecting lives of Americans instead of unnecessarily risking their lives for nothing and also focusing more on internal issues than wasting time and money doing stuff in other places. Goes back to their “America First” slogan and calls to bring troops back to the country.

They do care, but just because they think that makes him look better. It's all about creating a positive narrative about him. Just like the nonsense about him being "the best president for African Americans" and all the other BS. Of course they don't care about the issue itself, it's a mere pretext.

[Rep Jessica]

More then Trump was. Trump did more to end wars then any president of the past 50 years. The left has transformed into something truly evil as it is owned by the rich and military industrial complex.

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More then Trump was. Trump did more to end wars then any president of the past 50 years. The left has transformed into something truly evil as it is owned by the rich and military industrial complex.

Not the left that wasn't brainwashed by the propaganda about Russia.

[VBM]

More then Trump was. Trump did more to end wars then any president of the past 50 years. The left has transformed into something truly evil as it is owned by the rich and military industrial complex.

Why did Trump increase military spending?

[darklordoftech]

Unlikely to be of any significant difference. There hasn't truly been an open window for non-interventionism since the fallout of 'Nam, and that window closed with Iran/Afghanistan in the 70's.

I think a Democrat winning the 1988 Presidential could have resulted in a dovish foreign policy.

[Benjamin Frank]

I fear its gonna be in the wrong places, we need to focus on regime change in Venezuela not Syria

We need to focus on "regime change" nowhere, and start focusing on helping our own people. Sanctions are responsible for Venezuela's plight, as Bolton admitted the criminals running this country want their oil.

I agree that the United States should not be pushing for regime change.

However, that is Maduro propaganda nonsense.  Venezuela is in trouble because the people placed in charge of the nationalized PDVSA were incompetent criminals who spent or embezzled all the profits and did not reinvest in the company or in new exploration and development.

[Benjamin Frank]

He's filling his cabinet with hawks, he brags to the world that America "is back in the game" aka bombing people in the Middle East and fighting wars for Israel, he thinks Russia is the #1 enemy instead of China (hmm wonder why that is), he also wants wants Antony Blinken for SoS, known warmonger. Not to when both him and Biden proposed their psychotic plans to partition Iraq.

So will Biden end up being more interventionist than Obama?

Why is it that all the Republicans are either 'all war all the time' or are isolationists?  Is there a single (Trump) Republican who is a sophisticated thinker and not a binary thinker?

[Fuzzy Bear]

America is back in the game because people overseas like here in New Zealand no longer think you're a mess and a joke but will respect America again. America's reputation will be greatly enhanced and Biden can bring other nations together on stuff like climate change, the Covid response and yes taking on Russia and China. There will also be no more of these dumb job killing trade wars.

Yes, Biden will be very good at preserving Chinese jobs.

Free trade is better for everyone, it's American jobs that Trump killed.

That's simply not true. 

https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/trumps-economy-creating-manufacturing-jobs/

In the 17 months prior to Obama's town hall (January 2015 to May 2016), the U.S. Department of Labor calculated that 40,000 manufacturing jobs (seasonally adjusted) had been created for a total of 12,336,000 jobs, anemic growth of about 0.3% over the period. By December 2016, Obama's last full month in office, manufacturing employment was up 55,000 jobs from January 2015.

On October 5, 2018, the Department of Labor released its national jobs report for September, showing unemployment had hit a 49-year-low at 3.7% with 134,000 jobs added last month of which 18,000 were in manufacturing.

New Zealanders may well benefit from "free trade".  China certainly does.  America does not.

[darklordoftech]

He's filling his cabinet with hawks, he brags to the world that America "is back in the game" aka bombing people in the Middle East and fighting wars for Israel, he thinks Russia is the #1 enemy instead of China (hmm wonder why that is), he also wants wants Antony Blinken for SoS, known warmonger. Not to when both him and Biden proposed their psychotic plans to partition Iraq.

So will Biden end up being more interventionist than Obama?

Trump has bombed A LOT in the Middle East. I've heard this recurring "NO NEW WARS!" theme from Trump supporters time and time again, as if he were a pacificst. He isn't. In fact, he's broken records for bombing Afghanistan and Yemen.

The Trump base anti-war movement isn’t about bringing “peace” to people in other countries and respecting their lives and sovereignty though. They don’t care, just like democrats don’t too. You miss the point if you think they care whether Trump is a pacifist.

It is an anti-war movement with more nationalist arguments, such as protecting lives of Americans instead of unnecessarily risking their lives for nothing and also focusing more on internal issues than wasting time and money doing stuff in other places. Goes back to their “America First” slogan and calls to bring troops back to the country.

I find the revisionism surrounding the Iraq War interesting. At the time, it was promoted as a war to protect Americans from terrorism. Supporters of the Iraq War used all the same arguements and phrases that supporters of the assassination of Soleimani use now. Nationalists tended to support it while internationalists tended to oppose it. How is “Freedom Fries” any different from “America First”? Now, people think the Iraq War was an internationalist war.

[Red Velvet]

He's filling his cabinet with hawks, he brags to the world that America "is back in the game" aka bombing people in the Middle East and fighting wars for Israel, he thinks Russia is the #1 enemy instead of China (hmm wonder why that is), he also wants wants Antony Blinken for SoS, known warmonger. Not to when both him and Biden proposed their psychotic plans to partition Iraq.

So will Biden end up being more interventionist than Obama?

Trump has bombed A LOT in the Middle East. I've heard this recurring "NO NEW WARS!" theme from Trump supporters time and time again, as if he were a pacificst. He isn't. In fact, he's broken records for bombing Afghanistan and Yemen.

The Trump base anti-war movement isn’t about bringing “peace” to people in other countries and respecting their lives and sovereignty though. They don’t care, just like democrats don’t too. You miss the point if you think they care whether Trump is a pacifist.

It is an anti-war movement with more nationalist arguments, such as protecting lives of Americans instead of unnecessarily risking their lives for nothing and also focusing more on internal issues than wasting time and money doing stuff in other places. Goes back to their “America First” slogan and calls to bring troops back to the country.

I find the revisionism surrounding the Iraq War interesting. At the time, it was promoted as a war to protect Americans from terrorism. Supporters of the Iraq War used all the same arguements and phrases that supporters of the assassination of Soleimani use now. Nationalists tended to support it while internationalists tended to oppose it. Now, people think the Iraq War was an internationalist war.

Don’t worry, it doesn’t sound that confusing to me to try to understand. I can at least get a sense of how it went down. Before it happened, when the debate was framed within lines of “Intervention/war = Protecting the US”, the nationalists were the ones more driven to support it because they really believed the nation was in danger even though Iraq had nothing to do with Bin Laden, that war actually benefited Al Qaeda goals.

Once the lies of the Bush administration became more evident, impossible to deny and the war also became more unpopular, that could’ve impacted the perception of nationalists, especially working class ones. They tend to be the ones who join military to fight in war and the paradigm shift from “I am doing this for my country which is in danger” to “I am doing this for the government and for rich elites who always explored me”, naturally this perception changed.

Same thing with globalists and internationalists, original meaning of war was “Bringing conflict to other places in the world, less global peace”, but once nationalists reacted with a push for isolationism, neoliberal leaders reacted because they benefit from these never-ending conflicts, pushing to convince their base that “Intervention/war = Cooperation with other places democracies”. These elites will always adapt their speech to what they consider to be more effective to make people do what they want in the moment.

In early 2000’s terrorism was a big thing that concerned people so naturally it appealed to nationalists, something most people are when their home is attacked. In 2020 Trump and his isolationism supposedly making the country lose its ground and relevance on the world stage is what scared lots of people so they just did the opposite thing by rehabilitating Bush/neoconservatives and pushing to keep the forever wars in order to manifest that power. Most internationalists also tend to be in bigger cities and be richer than the average, so they aren’t the ones who sacrifice themselves in big numbers. The demographics political polarization probably reflects some of these questions, or maybe not!