Looks like the dems won Iowa-2 after all
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« on: November 23, 2020, 06:34:43 PM »
« edited: November 23, 2020, 06:37:46 PM by marty »

Hart is down only 6 votes with numerous dem counties not done recounting

Doesn’t matter much in long scheme of things, but still, pretty interesting
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2020, 06:36:50 PM »

She'll be DOA in 2022 anyway
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2020, 06:36:52 PM »

Let us wait
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2020, 06:40:33 PM »

tbh ia-02 is likely d if fink runs in 2022. Republicans can’t survive those coattails.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2020, 06:42:13 PM »

If Hart does win, she will lose come 2022.
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2020, 06:47:54 PM »

tbh ia-02 is likely d if fink runs in 2022. Republicans can’t survive those coattails.


Iowa-Sen (Grassley, INC) - Safe R
Iowa-Sen (Open)- Likely D
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2020, 06:52:29 PM »

This is why I encouraged RINO Tom to vote. Tongue

But if this is true (not surprised), I hope she enjoys those two years in Congress. Won’t be ‘close enough’ in 2022.

Ideally she casts the deciding vote in the House for some big progressive policy.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2020, 06:52:42 PM »

tbh ia-02 is likely d if fink runs in 2022. Republicans can’t survive those coattails.


Iowa-Sen (Grassley, INC) - Safe R
Iowa-Sen (Open)- Likely D

Even against Finkenauer, Grassley probably loses by 3-4 imo
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2020, 06:55:32 PM »

This is why I encouraged RINO Tom to vote. Tongue

But if this is true (not surprised), I hope she enjoys those two years in Congress. Won’t be ‘close enough’ in 2022.

Ideally she casts the deciding vote in the House for some big progressive policy.

Good thing our terrific WAPELLO WHITES will bend the Knee to Hart and vote for her reelection 60-40 in 2022!
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2020, 07:00:36 PM »

This is why I encouraged RINO Tom to vote. Tongue

But if this is true (not surprised), I hope she enjoys those two years in Congress. Won’t be ‘close enough’ in 2022.

Ideally she casts the deciding vote in the House for some big progressive policy.

There likely won’t be any votes like that given that it would be DOA in the Senate.
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2020, 07:05:09 PM »

I can't tell if this whole Finkenauer winning in 2022 thing is a joke or not.
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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2020, 07:07:34 PM »

I can't tell if this whole Finkenauer winning in 2022 thing is a joke or not.

Sadly I don't see much of a path for her. Winning her seat back will be very difficult, but winning statewide would probably be even tougher.
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2020, 07:08:02 PM »

Redistricting might save Hart even if nothing else does.
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2020, 07:11:36 PM »

I can't tell if this whole Finkenauer winning in 2022 thing is a joke or not.

Sadly I don't see much of a path for her. Winning her seat back will be very difficult, but winning statewide would probably be even tougher.

Waves always hit the House harder than the Senate. A Senate run is probably her best chance to get back into politics.
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2020, 07:14:48 PM »

I can't tell if this whole Finkenauer winning in 2022 thing is a joke or not.

Sadly I don't see much of a path for her. Winning her seat back will be very difficult, but winning statewide would probably be even tougher.

Waves always hit the House harder than the Senate. A Senate run is probably her best chance to get back into politics.

Finkenauer will become a perennial candidate if she runs for the Senate in 2022. Her "best", assuming that she won the primary, would be a 7-9% loss against the Republican candidate, if it's an open seat, and a >20% loss against Grassley if he runs for reelection. And that's probably true for any potential Democratic candidate who runs in 2022, including State Auditor Rob Sand.
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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2020, 07:15:01 PM »

I can't tell if this whole Finkenauer winning in 2022 thing is a joke or not.


It will happen Soon - you all will see how Amazing she will do; anyone who doubts the power of the Fink will be shocked how Elastic this state is. yessir... she's Running.

(or maybe she is Doomed?)
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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2020, 07:15:55 PM »

Redistricting might save Hart even if nothing else does.

It's more likely that they'll shore up Axne or maybe even attempt a 4-0 R map (not sure about how possible this is). Even a potentially D-leaning district for Hart would probably be trending away from her.
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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2020, 07:19:39 PM »

Redistricting might save Hart even if nothing else does.

It's more likely that they'll shore up Axne or maybe even attempt a 4-0 R map (not sure about how possible this is). Even a potentially D-leaning district for Hart would probably be trending away from her.

I expect them to try a 4-0 map. Iowa doesn't have many cities to speak of.
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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2020, 07:41:02 PM »

This Race will end up in the Courts.

Miller-Meeks will not sit idly and watch Scott County violating Iowa State Election Law by doing a "Hybrid" Version of the Recount combining the Machine Recount with a Hand Recount.

If Scott County puts Hart ahead I predict the Miller-Meeks Campaign go to the Iowa Supreme Court to settle matters.
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« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2020, 07:42:00 PM »

I am expecting violence in IA02 over the next few weeks.
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« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2020, 07:52:44 PM »

Redistricting might save Hart even if nothing else does.

How do you draw a D-leaning IA-2 seat, esp. without sacrificing Axne? Also, why would Republicans consent to such a proposal (is there a D commission)?

Hypothetically, Axne would have a Des-Moines based seat and an Eastern IA seat with Cedar Rapids, Quad Cities, and Dubuque would be drawn. The rest of the state would be split into two safe R east-west districts.

Of course, I actually expect Axne to get a Likely D Des Moines based seat and the rest of the state is divided into likely/safe R seats.
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« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2020, 08:12:20 PM »

I want to believe
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« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2020, 08:28:13 PM »

This would definitely only be held for another term at most. But if this seat and Brindisi's hold it actually is good in the short-term as it ensures that the GOP picked up less seats than they could have and pads the Democratic majority somewhat. Every seat counts.
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« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2020, 09:00:01 PM »

Why would you assume that because Johnson County is heavily Dem that it would inevitably benefit Hart in a recount? I don't consider the partisanship of a county to be predictive of how it changes results in a recount. The only real factor of influence a county has in a recount is it's size, which allows for larger variability in how much its results may change, but the probability of error is equal in both directions.
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« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2020, 09:00:25 PM »

tbh ia-02 is likely d if fink runs in 2022. Republicans can’t survive those coattails.


Iowa-Sen (Grassley, INC) - Safe R
Iowa-Sen (Open)- Likely D

Even against Finkenauer, Grassley probably loses by 3-4 imo
We are talking about the Finkenauer that lost, right?
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