Election Discussion

[Ebowed]

Figured we'd need one of these sooner or later.


Current results (going with absentees)
Ebowed/Q - 7
Andrew/King - 3
True Democrat/Supersoulty - 2

(Last voter: Lewis)

Number of Preferences (for tiebreaking)
True Democrat/Supersoulty - 10
Ebowed/Q - 10
Andrew/King - 9
Dubya/Milk & Cereal - 7

[TomC]

I have a question about the NE gub run-off. I know in many runoffs, voters are only allowed to choose from the top two candidates from the original, but the ballot for this one allows for write ins and NOTA. Is this correct?

[jerusalemcar5]

I have a question about the NE gub run-off. I know in many runoffs, voters are only allowed to choose from the top two candidates from the original, but the ballot for this one allows for write ins and NOTA. Is this correct?

Sadly, yes.  In fact write ins caused another tie in the NE gov. run-off of June 2004.  There is almost no legislation regarding the run-off, simply that it must take place and when.  I looked long and hard for something saying that only the top 2 could be chosen, but no.

[bullmoose88]

I have a question about the NE gub run-off. I know in many runoffs, voters are only allowed to choose from the top two candidates from the original, but the ballot for this one allows for write ins and NOTA. Is this correct?

Check your box. You have mail.

[TomC]

I have a question about the NE gub run-off. I know in many runoffs, voters are only allowed to choose from the top two candidates from the original, but the ballot for this one allows for write ins and NOTA. Is this correct?

Sadly, yes.  In fact write ins caused another tie in the NE gov. run-off of June 2004.  There is almost no legislation regarding the run-off, simply that it must take place and when.  I looked long and hard for something saying that only the top 2 could be chosen, but no.

Well, the thing that made me ask the question is this:

In the case of a tie, all tied candidates are to run in a run-off election the following week to determine a winner. (IV, vi)

[bullmoose88]

I have a question about the NE gub run-off. I know in many runoffs, voters are only allowed to choose from the top two candidates from the original, but the ballot for this one allows for write ins and NOTA. Is this correct?

Sadly, yes.  In fact write ins caused another tie in the NE gov. run-off of June 2004.  There is almost no legislation regarding the run-off, simply that it must take place and when.  I looked long and hard for something saying that only the top 2 could be chosen, but no.

Well, the thing that made me ask the question is this:

In the case of a tie, all tied candidates are to run in a run-off election the following week to determine a winner. (IV, vi)

Well the next question I ask is, and it might sound stupid, are write ins candidates? I remember in the past (when I had a pretty decent write in showing) Ernest instructed me to sign in on the declaration thread.

Unfortunately the problem I see is this. While we have the added benefit of not implementing a Louisiana style system, where someone needs 50%...we still need a plurality. Given that maybe 20 people will vote this weekend, the odds of a tie are much higher than they would be if we had 200 or 2000 people voting.

Even if we just had a 2 line ballot, we could still have a tie. Its not really a matter of how many lines we allow, but the fact that voting in this region seems to be very rigid and with very few dramatic swings.

[bullmoose88]

There are, depending on your view, 10 hours before the election begins.

More thoughts, especially of Mas and fezzy, are welcome.

[The Dowager Mod]

2 write ins for Everett?

[TomC]

2 write ins for Everett?

This discussion is about write ins is about the NE gubernatorial runoff, not the Pres election.

[The Dowager Mod]

No i was just surprised we seem to have 2 write ins.

[Hatman 🍁]

2 write ins for Everett?

Just one so far

[The Dowager Mod]

Verin and Trondheim?

[MAS117]

There are, depending on your view, 10 hours before the election begins.

More thoughts, especially of MAS and fezzy, are welcome.

I'll leave it to you as Chief Judge to make these decisions regarding elections. I am not sure what is the correct method. I seem to remember in the past no write ins, I could be mistaken.

[Hatman 🍁]

Verin and Trondheim?

Lewis voted for Ebowed. He wrote in Texasgurl/Everett before Ebowed, and Everett/Texasgurl after.

[jerusalemcar5]

Verin and Trondheim?

Lewis voted for Ebowed. He wrote in Texasgurl/Everett before Ebowed, and Everett/Texasgurl after.

Right, but she means prefs overall I think.

By the way, Earl get online, we need to talk.

[jerusalemcar5]

You all couldn't be more wrong Everett/TexasGurl doesn't have 2 prefs... They have 3

By the way, you are registered in Rhode Island yet voted in the Pacific race.  That will invalidate your vote.  You should see if you can switch to vote in the Northeast race where you're registered.

[Hatman 🍁]

You all couldn't be more wrong Everett/TexasGurl doesn't have 2 prefs... They have 3

She has two now. Unless Texasgrl/Everett means the same thing as Everett/Texasgurl.

By the way, there will be ongoing updates in the AWN news thread beginning at 9:30 this evening.

[WMS]

You all couldn't be more wrong Everett/TexasGurl doesn't have 2 prefs... They have 3

By the way, you are registered in Rhode Island yet voted in the Pacific race.  That will invalidate your vote.  You should see if you can switch to vote in the Northeast race where you're registered.

He's right WildCard - I appreciate the thought but you're not in my Region anymore.

[The Dowager Mod]

Girl power!

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

You all couldn't be more wrong Everett/TexasGurl doesn't have 2 prefs... They have 3

By the way, you are registered in Rhode Island yet voted in the Pacific race.  That will invalidate your vote.  You should see if you can switch to vote in the Northeast race where you're registered.

Precedent says that he can't.  That baby was fixed in the Electoral System Reform Act, but it was mixed in with the part that implemented FPTP and which was rejected in a referendum in favor of the IRV system, so it got thrown out with the bathwater.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

You all couldn't be more wrong Everett/TexasGurl doesn't have 2 prefs... They have 3

By the way, you are registered in Rhode Island yet voted in the Pacific race.  That will invalidate your vote.  You should see if you can switch to vote in the Northeast race where you're registered.

Precedent says that he can't.  That baby was fixed in the Electoral System Reform Act, but it was mixed in with the part that implemented FPTP and which was rejected in a referendum in favor of the IRV system, so it got thrown out with the bathwater.

That only applies to my Senate vot not my Presidential vote correct?

correct.  Technically, you have cast a write-in for WMS for the Northeast Senate race, but since he is not a resident of the Northeast, he can't be our Senator, even if he were to accept the votes.  I'm not certain what would happen if he were to accept the write-in votes and win, but since I doubt that would happen I won't worry about it. (This being Atlasia, I'm not certain it would never happen,)

[Ebowed]

Last voter: Virginian87

Round 1
True Democrat/Supersoulty - 9
Ebowed/Q - 8
Andrew/King - 4
Everett/TexasGurl - 3
Dubya/Milk & Cereal - 1

Round 2
True Democrat/Supersoulty - 9
Ebowed/Q - 8
Andrew/King - 5
Everett/TexasGurl - 3

Round 3
Ebowed/Q - 9
True Democrat/Supersoulty - 9
Andrew/King - 7

Round 4
Ebowed/Q - 12
True Democrat/Supersoulty - 12
Neither - 1

Number of Preferences
True Democrat/Supersoulty - 22
Ebowed/Q - 21
Dubya/Milk & Cereal - 18
Andrew/King - 17
Everett/TexasGurl - 6

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

You forgot Round 0:

9 - True Democrat/Supersoulty
7 - Ebowed/Q
4 - Andrew Berger/King
3 - Everett/Texasgurl
1 - Ron Dubya/Milk and Cereal
1 - EarlAW/Speed of Sound (eliminated due to fewer preferences)

With both Earl and SoS voting for their ticket it gets recognized as a write-in and Earl gave that ticket a 1st preference which then flows to Ebowed/Q in the next round.

[YRABNNRM]

I'm not sure which to be more grateful of; those who preference my ticket last or those who fail to mention my ticket at all.

[Hatman 🍁]

I've been mentioned on four ballots so far