Republicans: Explain how there was rampant voter fraud in 2020

[Inmate Trump]

A lot of its anecdotal. It is NOT widespread. The technicality in PA of the ballots coming in after the deadline has disputed relevance.

But a lot of things seem odd, aside from the here and there bunches of ballots found or thrown in trash/hidden:

• In Detroit, why did they cover up the windows of the ballot counting area?
• Bunches of ballots would come in, tens of thousands just for Biden and ONLY BIDEN (and I'm not talking about the 4am MI thing that was a glitch, though there was a glitch as well that swapped Trump votes for Biden ones).
• The whole Biden's votes don't follow Benford's Law argument.
• The record turnouts in some areas that were into "election fraud warning levels" i.e. near or above 100%. This could be record registrations day-of but during the pandemic?
• Oh, and the Dominion voting machines that can mark ballots and the other ballot counters connected to the internet, either susceptible to hacking

Hand recounts should resolve most of the questions here, so I'm waiting for that.

We'll know when these things are investigated.

There are two (2) questions:  One is whether or not there was voter fraud.  The other was whether or not the voter fraud was sufficient to change the outcome of the Presidential elections.

That there may have been fraud when fraud wasn't necessary for a Biden win is not "No Harm, No Foul". 

The issue is not that there were computer glitches, boxes of ballots suddenly turning up, poll watchers and observers denied access, changes of rules by partisan Courts that were later overturned, failures to properly validating signatures, that Biden states were called prematurely while Trump states weren't called until this past week, or that Trump's leads all vanished while Biden's leads remained.  The issue is that every break went Biden's way.  And every break went Biden's way after a race where (A) Trump was viciously cross-examined in a Town Hall while Biden was given softballs from a Democratic partisan posing as a journalist, (B) the entire media refused to cover the Hunter Biden influence peddling story, a story that would have been front page in any other campaign, and (C) a vast array of polls showed Trump to be hopelessly behind when, in fact, he's still in the race (though ever so barely).  To say nothing about the large number of mail-in ballots being sent out without being solicited.  There is no reason Trump's supporters should just write all of that off as coincidence, and there is no reason not to fully investigate how MI, WI, GA, PA, AZ, and NV counted their votes. 

Voter fraud is something that's not confirmed until AFTER an investigation is conducted.  Not before.  Voter fraud is a covert operation; the goal is for it to remain secret from inception to eternity.  There are enough irregularities on their face that represent a "loss of cover" for such an operation.  If it's so important for the American people to know that their election was fair, there should be no opposition to all recounts and Trump's legal challenges. 

But what is the evidence of voter fraud?

The Trump administration has yet to provide any.  With no evidence, what is the basis of an investigation?  Simply because you lost?  What warrants an investigation into voter fraud if there is no evidence of any?

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

A lot of its anecdotal. It is NOT widespread. The technicality in PA of the ballots coming in after the deadline has disputed relevance.

But a lot of things seem odd, aside from the here and there bunches of ballots found or thrown in trash/hidden:

• In Detroit, why did they cover up the windows of the ballot counting area?
• Bunches of ballots would come in, tens of thousands just for Biden and ONLY BIDEN (and I'm not talking about the 4am MI thing that was a glitch, though there was a glitch as well that swapped Trump votes for Biden ones).
• The whole Biden's votes don't follow Benford's Law argument.
• The record turnouts in some areas that were into "election fraud warning levels" i.e. near or above 100%. This could be record registrations day-of but during the pandemic?
• Oh, and the Dominion voting machines that can mark ballots and the other ballot counters connected to the internet, either susceptible to hacking

Hand recounts should resolve most of the questions here, so I'm waiting for that.

We'll know when these things are investigated.

There are two (2) questions:  One is whether or not there was voter fraud.  The other was whether or not the voter fraud was sufficient to change the outcome of the Presidential elections.

That there may have been fraud when fraud wasn't necessary for a Biden win is not "No Harm, No Foul". 

The issue is not that there were computer glitches, boxes of ballots suddenly turning up, poll watchers and observers denied access, changes of rules by partisan Courts that were later overturned, failures to properly validating signatures, that Biden states were called prematurely while Trump states weren't called until this past week, or that Trump's leads all vanished while Biden's leads remained.  The issue is that every break went Biden's way.  And every break went Biden's way after a race where (A) Trump was viciously cross-examined in a Town Hall while Biden was given softballs from a Democratic partisan posing as a journalist, (B) the entire media refused to cover the Hunter Biden influence peddling story, a story that would have been front page in any other campaign, and (C) a vast array of polls showed Trump to be hopelessly behind when, in fact, he's still in the race (though ever so barely).  To say nothing about the large number of mail-in ballots being sent out without being solicited.  There is no reason Trump's supporters should just write all of that off as coincidence, and there is no reason not to fully investigate how MI, WI, GA, PA, AZ, and NV counted their votes. 

Voter fraud is something that's not confirmed until AFTER an investigation is conducted.  Not before.  Voter fraud is a covert operation; the goal is for it to remain secret from inception to eternity.  There are enough irregularities on their face that represent a "loss of cover" for such an operation.  If it's so important for the American people to know that their election was fair, there should be no opposition to all recounts and Trump's legal challenges. 

But what is the evidence of voter fraud?

The Trump administration has yet to provide any.  With no evidence, what is the basis of an investigation?  Simply because you lost?  What warrants an investigation into voter fraud if there is no evidence of any?

The basis for suspicion is every single break going Trump's way.  Boxes of ballots discarded for Trump.  Affidavits detailing improper activities by postal and elections officials.

The proof comes in the investigations.  You're find with investigating, aren't you?  You were fine with the Mueller Report and the Senate calling witnesses that the House did not call during impeachment.  Why so skittish now?

Is it all because what is reasonable means that your assurances that there will be no Trump after January, 2020 might be delayed?  Or that the truth of the conduct of the election won't reflect well on Democrats?  It can't be because of a desire for truth, so let's not kid ourselves about this.

[7,052,770]

A lot of its anecdotal. It is NOT widespread. The technicality in PA of the ballots coming in after the deadline has disputed relevance.

But a lot of things seem odd, aside from the here and there bunches of ballots found or thrown in trash/hidden:

• In Detroit, why did they cover up the windows of the ballot counting area?
• Bunches of ballots would come in, tens of thousands just for Biden and ONLY BIDEN (and I'm not talking about the 4am MI thing that was a glitch, though there was a glitch as well that swapped Trump votes for Biden ones).
• The whole Biden's votes don't follow Benford's Law argument.
• The record turnouts in some areas that were into "election fraud warning levels" i.e. near or above 100%. This could be record registrations day-of but during the pandemic?
• Oh, and the Dominion voting machines that can mark ballots and the other ballot counters connected to the internet, either susceptible to hacking

Hand recounts should resolve most of the questions here, so I'm waiting for that.

We'll know when these things are investigated.

There are two (2) questions:  One is whether or not there was voter fraud.  The other was whether or not the voter fraud was sufficient to change the outcome of the Presidential elections.

That there may have been fraud when fraud wasn't necessary for a Biden win is not "No Harm, No Foul".  

The issue is not that there were computer glitches, boxes of ballots suddenly turning up, poll watchers and observers denied access, changes of rules by partisan Courts that were later overturned, failures to properly validating signatures, that Biden states were called prematurely while Trump states weren't called until this past week, or that Trump's leads all vanished while Biden's leads remained.  The issue is that every break went Biden's way.  And every break went Biden's way after a race where (A) Trump was viciously cross-examined in a Town Hall while Biden was given softballs from a Democratic partisan posing as a journalist, (B) the entire media refused to cover the Hunter Biden influence peddling story, a story that would have been front page in any other campaign, and (C) a vast array of polls showed Trump to be hopelessly behind when, in fact, he's still in the race (though ever so barely).  To say nothing about the large number of mail-in ballots being sent out without being solicited.  There is no reason Trump's supporters should just write all of that off as coincidence, and there is no reason not to fully investigate how MI, WI, GA, PA, AZ, and NV counted their votes.  

Voter fraud is something that's not confirmed until AFTER an investigation is conducted.  Not before.  Voter fraud is a covert operation; the goal is for it to remain secret from inception to eternity.  There are enough irregularities on their face that represent a "loss of cover" for such an operation.  If it's so important for the American people to know that their election was fair, there should be no opposition to all recounts and Trump's legal challenges.  

What happened in PA MI WI was not a surprise at all, statisticians for months were talking about a red mirage in those states(especially in PA) due to the fact the mail in ballots were not counted until after the in person ballots were counted and since Trump told his supporters not to trust mail in voting that meant the mail in ballots were obviously gonna be extremely democratic.


Also while Trump did have a 600k vote lead on election day in PA , I pretty much knew that it wasnt enough due to this: https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html .


https://twitter.com/redistrict/status/1321187245626429441

https://twitter.com/redistrict/status/1323625331857756162



https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-pennsylvanias-vote-count-could-change-after-election-night/

This graph is basically what happened



About the Media , they have been biased for the Democrats in every election since 1960 with the possible exceptions of 1972 and 1984

You're wasting your time OSR. Fuzzy has seen all this stuff before. He is willfully choosing not to believe it, not a well-meaning person who is just misinformed.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Step 1) Sabotage vote counting so that Biden voters are counted later
Step 2) Raise ‘serious questions’ based on the ramblings of conspiracy theorists
Step 3) Scream about how every EVERY BREAK went Biden’s way, therefore suspicious, throw out the election

To be fair, there's a perfectly good explanation for why Biden's votes were counted later: the vast majority of Trump's voters voted on Election Day (because they were literally told to by their candidate of choice) and the vast majority of Biden voters voted early or by mail.

Why every state can't just pass a law to automatically count already submitted ballots is beyond me. I don't want to be forced to sit through five straight days of CNN ever again.

[Yoda]

If anything, the evidence points to Republican voter fraud.

This of course, but also more importantly, voter suppression mainly carried out through the purposeful destruction of the USPS. We have no idea yet how many thousands or tens of thousands of mail ballots were not counted due to artificially long delivery times. This is a huge scandal, and it's not getting 0.1% of the media attention that trump's completely made up fraud allegations are getting.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/11/14/democracy-institute-pollster-yes-i-think-this-election-was-stolen-n2579970

How curious that, as Baris notes, “Trump won the largest non-white vote share for a Republican presidential candidate in 60 years. Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.”

Robert Barnes, the foremost election analyst, observes in these “big cities in swing states run by Democrats…the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters.”

Trump’s victories in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin were on target until, in the middle of the night, counting was arbitrarily halted. Miraculously, several hundred thousand votes – all for Biden – were mysteriously ‘found’; Trump’s real leads subsequently vanished.

The protracted, eventual outcome will determine the contemporary relevance of Stalin’s observation. No matter who wins, most pollsters already have lost their credibility and influence.

Please don't patronize me and say there's no reason for suspicion.

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

Step 1) Sabotage vote counting so that Biden voters are counted later
Step 2) Raise ‘serious questions’ based on the ramblings of conspiracy theorists
Step 3) Scream about how every EVERY BREAK went Biden’s way, therefore suspicious, throw out the election

To be fair, there's a perfectly good explanation for why Biden's votes were counted later: the vast majority of Trump's voters voted on Election Day (because they were literally told to by their candidate of choice) and the vast majority of Biden voters voted early or by mail.

Why every state can't just pass a law to automatically count already submitted ballots is beyond me. I don't want to be forced to sit through five straight days of CNN ever again.

They couldn’t do the later because Republican legislatures in PA, MI, and WI wouldn’t let them.
That is what I meant by sabotage, we knew that there would be far more mail in ballots this year than any other but refused to change the law because they knew that the majority would be Biden voters and they wanted to make the race look closer than it was and feed the fake fraud claims.


(Granted there are other states that do this too, but they are simply non-competitive and likely felt no urgency to change).

[7,052,770]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/11/14/democracy-institute-pollster-yes-i-think-this-election-was-stolen-n2579970

How curious that, as Baris notes, “Trump won the largest non-white vote share for a Republican presidential candidate in 60 years. Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.”

Robert Barnes, the foremost election analyst, observes in these “big cities in swing states run by Democrats…the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters.”

Trump’s victories in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin were on target until, in the middle of the night, counting was arbitrarily halted. Miraculously, several hundred thousand votes – all for Biden – were mysteriously ‘found’; Trump’s real leads subsequently vanished.

The protracted, eventual outcome will determine the contemporary relevance of Stalin’s observation. No matter who wins, most pollsters already have lost their credibility and influence.

Please don't patronize me and say there's no reason for suspicion.

Facts don't care about your feelings, Fuzz.

[Inmate Trump]

A lot of its anecdotal. It is NOT widespread. The technicality in PA of the ballots coming in after the deadline has disputed relevance.

But a lot of things seem odd, aside from the here and there bunches of ballots found or thrown in trash/hidden:

• In Detroit, why did they cover up the windows of the ballot counting area?
• Bunches of ballots would come in, tens of thousands just for Biden and ONLY BIDEN (and I'm not talking about the 4am MI thing that was a glitch, though there was a glitch as well that swapped Trump votes for Biden ones).
• The whole Biden's votes don't follow Benford's Law argument.
• The record turnouts in some areas that were into "election fraud warning levels" i.e. near or above 100%. This could be record registrations day-of but during the pandemic?
• Oh, and the Dominion voting machines that can mark ballots and the other ballot counters connected to the internet, either susceptible to hacking

Hand recounts should resolve most of the questions here, so I'm waiting for that.

We'll know when these things are investigated.

There are two (2) questions:  One is whether or not there was voter fraud.  The other was whether or not the voter fraud was sufficient to change the outcome of the Presidential elections.

That there may have been fraud when fraud wasn't necessary for a Biden win is not "No Harm, No Foul". 

The issue is not that there were computer glitches, boxes of ballots suddenly turning up, poll watchers and observers denied access, changes of rules by partisan Courts that were later overturned, failures to properly validating signatures, that Biden states were called prematurely while Trump states weren't called until this past week, or that Trump's leads all vanished while Biden's leads remained.  The issue is that every break went Biden's way.  And every break went Biden's way after a race where (A) Trump was viciously cross-examined in a Town Hall while Biden was given softballs from a Democratic partisan posing as a journalist, (B) the entire media refused to cover the Hunter Biden influence peddling story, a story that would have been front page in any other campaign, and (C) a vast array of polls showed Trump to be hopelessly behind when, in fact, he's still in the race (though ever so barely).  To say nothing about the large number of mail-in ballots being sent out without being solicited.  There is no reason Trump's supporters should just write all of that off as coincidence, and there is no reason not to fully investigate how MI, WI, GA, PA, AZ, and NV counted their votes. 

Voter fraud is something that's not confirmed until AFTER an investigation is conducted.  Not before.  Voter fraud is a covert operation; the goal is for it to remain secret from inception to eternity.  There are enough irregularities on their face that represent a "loss of cover" for such an operation.  If it's so important for the American people to know that their election was fair, there should be no opposition to all recounts and Trump's legal challenges. 

But what is the evidence of voter fraud?

The Trump administration has yet to provide any.  With no evidence, what is the basis of an investigation?  Simply because you lost?  What warrants an investigation into voter fraud if there is no evidence of any?

The basis for suspicion is every single break going Trump's way.  Boxes of ballots discarded for Trump.  Affidavits detailing improper activities by postal and elections officials.

The proof comes in the investigations.  You're find with investigating, aren't you?  You were fine with the Mueller Report and the Senate calling witnesses that the House did not call during impeachment.  Why so skittish now?

Is it all because what is reasonable means that your assurances that there will be no Trump after January, 2020 might be delayed?  Or that the truth of the conduct of the election won't reflect well on Democrats?  It can't be because of a desire for truth, so let's not kid ourselves about this.

Suspicion means nothing.  You need evidence, and you have none.

You can't start an investigation like this based on your feelings.  If you provide evidence of wrongdoing, then I would wholeheartedly support an investigation.  Your side hasn't done that.  There is no evidence, it's all simply heresy and conjecture.  Neither of those, nor suspicion, are allowances for starting an investigation into a matter that has doesn't even have one tiny shred of evidence.

I know it sucks to lose elections.  But this is sad.  And it's dangerous.  And it's bordering on treachery.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/11/14/democracy-institute-pollster-yes-i-think-this-election-was-stolen-n2579970

How curious that, as Baris notes, “Trump won the largest non-white vote share for a Republican presidential candidate in 60 years. Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.”

Robert Barnes, the foremost election analyst, observes in these “big cities in swing states run by Democrats…the vote even exceeded the number of registered voters.”

Trump’s victories in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin were on target until, in the middle of the night, counting was arbitrarily halted. Miraculously, several hundred thousand votes – all for Biden – were mysteriously ‘found’; Trump’s real leads subsequently vanished.

The protracted, eventual outcome will determine the contemporary relevance of Stalin’s observation. No matter who wins, most pollsters already have lost their credibility and influence.

Please don't patronize me and say there's no reason for suspicion.

You know who built on their numbers with minorities? Trump. You know who built on their numbers with white voters? Biden. But another big difference between this year and 2016 is that more Democrats turned out in this election, and Biden campaigned more effectively in states that the Clinton campaign and DNC thought were in the bag four years ago.

This is like a throwback to 2012, when Republicans claimed that Pennsylvania was stolen because Romney didn't get a single vote in several heavily black precincts in Philly. (Interestingly, this was right before the PA House Speaker publicly bragged about using voter suppression - a form of voter fraud in itself - to cut Obama's 2008 margin in PA in half.)

Patrick Basham is a literal tabloid newspaper writer who works for the Cato Institute and whose own polling predicted a Trump landslide.

Please, for the sake of your own sanity and integrity, do not cite Clownhall as an independent news source; it is just a step above Breitbart in its journalistic integrity.

[Virginiá]

There is no reason Trump's supporters should just write all of that off as coincidence, and there is no reason not to fully investigate how MI, WI, GA, PA, AZ, and NV counted their votes. 

What a coincidence, all the states Trump narrowly lost.


https://twitter.com/DrinkingQuest/status/1326278474902999040


Boy, thieving Democrats really dropped the ball here. They forgot to rig the downballot elections too. They better run this up the chain to Soros and get it fixed for the midterm election!

All of these complaints blatantly stink of sore losers basing their whining on out-of-context video/audio they saw on the internet, straight up fake news, and election procedures they don't even understand. The only real outrage here is that these theories have crawled from the fringes of society to the mainstream, all because the smaller of the two major parties in a closely divided country truly believe they only lose elections because of fraud.

[T'Chenka]

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.

That's literally not true. Portland, Seattle, Kansas City, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh, Austin, Dallas, Phoenix, Denver, etc., etc., etc., all went to Biden by more than Clinton.

[lfromnj]

Also biden literally did worse in the actual city of Detroit and Trump gained votes.

[7,052,770]

Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton in every major metro area around the country, save for Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia.

That's literally not true. Portland, Seattle, Kansas City, Minneapolis, Pittsburgh, Austin, Dallas, Phoenix, Denver, etc., etc., etc., all went to Biden by more than Clinton.

Fuzzy doesn't want facts, Blairite. He needs the "Biden cheated" narrative in order for his entire world not to fall apart.

Remember when Fuzzy said he would handle a Trump loss way better than any of us could handle a Biden loss?

[Rules for me, but not for thee]

Also missed the whole bellwether thing which I showed in another thread:



Really odd that these failed to predict the winner.

So the Benford's Law thing is debunked, still plenty of other examples out there.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

There is no reason Trump's supporters should just write all of that off as coincidence, and there is no reason not to fully investigate how MI, WI, GA, PA, AZ, and NV counted their votes. 

What a coincidence, all the states Trump narrowly lost.


https://twitter.com/DrinkingQuest/status/1326278474902999040


Boy, thieving Democrats really dropped the ball here. They forgot to rig the downballot elections too. They better run this up the chain to Soros and get it fixed for the midterm election!

All of these complaints blatantly stink of sore losers basing their whining on out-of-context video/audio they saw on the internet, straight up fake news, and election procedures they don't even understand. The only real outrage here is that these theories have crawled from the fringes of society to the mainstream, all because the smaller of the two major parties in a closely divided country truly believe they only lose elections because of fraud.

There has been a higher than normal number of ballots where votes were cast only in the Presidential race, and in those cases, the overwhelming number of such votes were for Biden.

[DrScholl]

Bellwether counties are going to change with the time as many of them are in areas that have shifts far to the right over the past few cycles. Vigo County not voting for the winner is hardly evidence of fraud.

Massive fraud is pretty easy to detect as North Carolina in 2018 has shown.

[WD]

Also missed the whole bellwether thing which I showed in another thread:



Really odd that these failed to predict the winner.

So the Benford's Law thing is debunked, still plenty of other examples out there.

I wouldn’t say that’s it’s “odd”, moreso that many of these counties, Vigo, IN and Ottowa, OH in particular, are heavily trending R. Bellwethers are predictors until they aren’t. For example, Bexar County, TX voted for the winner of the electoral college in every election between 1932 and 2016, except for 1968. Clinton winning it in 2016, while losing nationally doesn’t mean their was any fraud, just that bellwethers come and go, and regions of the country tend to change over time.

[7,052,770]

Also missed the whole bellwether thing which I showed in another thread:



Really odd that these failed to predict the winner.

That appears to be a cherry-picked list of counties. I don't doubt you could make one of those for 2016, 2012, or whatever other year you wanted.

[Hindsight was 2020]

There is no reason Trump's supporters should just write all of that off as coincidence, and there is no reason not to fully investigate how MI, WI, GA, PA, AZ, and NV counted their votes. 

What a coincidence, all the states Trump narrowly lost.


https://twitter.com/DrinkingQuest/status/1326278474902999040


Boy, thieving Democrats really dropped the ball here. They forgot to rig the downballot elections too. They better run this up the chain to Soros and get it fixed for the midterm election!

All of these complaints blatantly stink of sore losers basing their whining on out-of-context video/audio they saw on the internet, straight up fake news, and election procedures they don't even understand. The only real outrage here is that these theories have crawled from the fringes of society to the mainstream, all because the smaller of the two major parties in a closely divided country truly believe they only lose elections because of fraud.

There has been a higher than normal number of ballots where votes were cast only in the Presidential race, and in those cases, the overwhelming number of such votes were for Biden.

That’s weird because a lot of Americans historically only vote for the president in elections so why is it in a year that saw a pandemic that resulted in a historic amount of mail in ballots did mail in ballots have results that reflected the patterns of past in-person voting 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[Kingpoleon]

Trump's peace treaties are remarkable achievements.  They are game-changers that rewrote the book on how to make peace in the Middle East.  They represent long-overdue outside-the-box thinking that produced fruit.

The Palestinians are not the key to peace in the Middle East.  Let them be isolated as others reconcile with Israel.  I'm fine with that.

Your Emoluments Clause arguments have been, and remain, a non-starter.

Do you support terrorism? The isolation of Palestine is exactly what Netanyahu and Hamas want, because it would force any moderating influences out of power. There is not a single example of isolating an entire people ever making them more moderate, nor constant settlements on their lands that will moderate them. Your uncritical support of Israel, in which millions of people are treated as subhuman because they are Arabs, will incite more terrorism than any peace deal with Palestine ever could.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

Trump's peace treaties are remarkable achievements.  They are game-changers that rewrote the book on how to make peace in the Middle East.  They represent long-overdue outside-the-box thinking that produced fruit.

The Palestinians are not the key to peace in the Middle East.  Let them be isolated as others reconcile with Israel.  I'm fine with that.

Your Emoluments Clause arguments have been, and remain, a non-starter.

Do you support terrorism? The isolation of Palestine is exactly what Netanyahu and Hamas want, because it would force any moderating influences out of power. There is not a single example of isolating an entire people ever making them more moderate, nor constant settlements on their lands that will moderate them. Your uncritical support of Israel, in which millions of people are treated as subhuman because they are Arabs, will incite more terrorism than any peace deal with Palestine ever could.

That's up to Palestine.  The Grand Mufti collaborated with Hitler during WWII to deny Jews in Europe and North Africa a safe haven in Palestine.  How many Jews died in death camps because of the Grand Mufti cannot be measured exactly, but the Grand Mufti didn't care.  The Grand Mufti was the instrument by which Palestinians aided and abetted the Holocaust.

The Palestinians were unmerciful to Jews when it mattered the most.  Blame the Grand Mufti for that.  Blame the Palestinians who followed the Grand Mufti for that.

[lfromnj]

There is no reason Trump's supporters should just write all of that off as coincidence, and there is no reason not to fully investigate how MI, WI, GA, PA, AZ, and NV counted their votes. 

What a coincidence, all the states Trump narrowly lost.


https://twitter.com/DrinkingQuest/status/1326278474902999040


Boy, thieving Democrats really dropped the ball here. They forgot to rig the downballot elections too. They better run this up the chain to Soros and get it fixed for the midterm election!

All of these complaints blatantly stink of sore losers basing their whining on out-of-context video/audio they saw on the internet, straight up fake news, and election procedures they don't even understand. The only real outrage here is that these theories have crawled from the fringes of society to the mainstream, all because the smaller of the two major parties in a closely divided country truly believe they only lose elections because of fraud.

There has been a higher than normal number of ballots where votes were cast only in the Presidential race, and in those cases, the overwhelming number of such votes were for Biden.

Why tf would Democrats only rig it for Biden ?

[Kingpoleon]

That's up to Palestine.  The Grand Mufti collaborated with Hitler during WWII to deny Jews in Europe and North Africa a safe haven in Palestine.  How many Jews died in death camps because of the Grand Mufti cannot be measured exactly, but the Grand Mufti didn't care.  The Grand Mufti was the instrument by which Palestinians aided and abetted the Holocaust.

The Palestinians were unmerciful to Jews when it mattered the most.  Blame the Grand Mufti for that.  Blame the Palestinians who followed the Grand Mufti for that.

If Palestine should not exist - if Palestinians born years and decades after the sins of their ancestors should be unable to live freely - what do you think should have been done to Germans, who were ten times as guilty?

Or to Jews who committed terrorism against the British? Avraham Stern, a leader of Jewish resistance to British rule, literally preferred the Nazis to the British. You are the only conservative I have ever heard argue for reparations by Palestine so extreme. If China’s government is toppled, should its people be denied a state for eighty years or more? They did, after all, support their government putting millions of Muslims in concentration camps. You would have Palestinians exist within Israel, unable to vote or negotiate, as essentially slaves for centuries. Why? Because you have some odd obsession with the Grand Mufti, and ignore the fact that millions upon millions of Americans - including Charles Lindbergh - openly praised Adolf Hitler and fought intervention. But for some reason, these people (mostly of German descent) deserve rights that Palestinian Arabs don’t. Could you be a little less blatant in your racism please?