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« on: November 13, 2020, 05:19:12 PM »
I’ll go with Neocons. Paleocons are stuck in the past and all their ideas are failures.
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2020, 05:27:55 PM »
Neoconservatism, obviously.
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2020, 05:33:05 PM »
« Edited: November 13, 2020, 05:41:14 PM by Old School Republican »
A mix of both , going hard in either direction is disastrous imo . The best direction in my opinion is realism but not in the way Nixon practiced it but rather the way George HW Bush did
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2020, 05:38:18 PM »
Paleocons are the absolute worst.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2020, 06:44:13 PM »
Paleoconservatism is the worst ideology on earth.
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2020, 07:06:39 PM »
Quote from: Old School Republican on November 13, 2020, 05:33:05 PM
A mix of both , going hard in either direction is disastrous imo . The best direction in my opinion is realism but not in the way Nixon practiced it but rather the way George HW Bush did

How do you differentiate?

And while much of Nixon's foreign policy is reprehensible, I think the overall framework is worth consideration.
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2020, 07:19:08 PM »
As a reactionary, I think I have to go with paleoconservatism.
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2020, 07:27:35 PM »
Quote from: Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion on November 13, 2020, 07:19:08 PM
As a reactionary, I think I have to go with paleoconservatism.

Imagine proudly calling yourself a “reactionary.”

YIKES.
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2020, 08:04:31 PM »
Quote from: Alben Barkley on November 13, 2020, 07:27:35 PM
Quote from: Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion on November 13, 2020, 07:19:08 PM
As a reactionary, I think I have to go with paleoconservatism.

Imagine proudly calling yourself a “reactionary.”

YIKES.

Reactionary is a synonym for Italian. Smiley Which is why Italians are great people.
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2020, 08:05:46 PM »
Both are firm believers in global apartheid and white supremacy, but paleocons are too lazy/too cheap to go about it through brute force.
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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2020, 08:10:33 PM »
Quote from: Santander on November 13, 2020, 08:04:31 PM
Quote from: Alben Barkley on November 13, 2020, 07:27:35 PM
Quote from: Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion on November 13, 2020, 07:19:08 PM
As a reactionary, I think I have to go with paleoconservatism.

Imagine proudly calling yourself a “reactionary.”

YIKES.

Reactionary is a synonym for Italian. Smiley Which is why Italians are great people.

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You just literally explained my joke perfectly lmao
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2020, 08:44:47 PM »
Quote from: Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion on November 13, 2020, 08:10:33 PM
Quote from: Santander on November 13, 2020, 08:04:31 PM
Quote from: Alben Barkley on November 13, 2020, 07:27:35 PM
Quote from: Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion on November 13, 2020, 07:19:08 PM
As a reactionary, I think I have to go with paleoconservatism.

Imagine proudly calling yourself a “reactionary.”

YIKES.

Reactionary is a synonym for Italian. Smiley Which is why Italians are great people.

Purple heart

You just literally explained my joke perfectly lmao

Which is why I'm learning Italian. Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2020, 08:53:53 PM »
Quote from: Cath on November 13, 2020, 07:06:39 PM
Quote from: Old School Republican on November 13, 2020, 05:33:05 PM
A mix of both , going hard in either direction is disastrous imo . The best direction in my opinion is realism but not in the way Nixon practiced it but rather the way George HW Bush did

How do you differentiate?

And while much of Nixon's foreign policy is reprehensible, I think the overall framework is worth consideration.

Seems like HW Bush did put in more emphasis on the promotion of human rights than Nixon did but just did it in a more realist way.
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2020, 08:16:35 AM »
This is not hard. Neocons have some questionable foreign policy views, usually along with standard centre-right positions on most other things. Paleocons, on the other hand, are unreconstructed bigots who want to haul you back a few centuries whether you like it or not, and often hold bizarre conspiratorial views.
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2020, 11:32:26 AM »
Buchanans don't kill, Bushes do.
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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2020, 12:21:21 PM »
« Edited: November 14, 2020, 12:28:04 PM by Atlanta 1997 World Champs »
What's wrong with paleocons?

Neocons have destroyed the world.

Globalism/internationalism has not worked either

I prefer isolationism or something similar to that vein
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2020, 12:53:01 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2020, 03:33:34 PM »

Bushes don’t kill people, GBU-24 Paveway III laser guided bombs kill people.
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2020, 03:46:23 PM »
Quote from: KaiserDave on November 14, 2020, 03:33:34 PM

Bushes don’t kill people, GBU-24 Paveway III laser guided bombs kill people.

Bushes can kill people if they are made of poisonous plants.
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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2020, 04:56:13 PM »
Neocon is the 🐐 ideology tho ngl

Liberate Iran 2k21 ight
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2020, 05:46:47 PM »
Quote from: Gulf Coastal Elite on November 14, 2020, 05:21:39 PM
Quote from: I need an explanation on November 13, 2020, 05:19:12 PM
I’ll go with Neocons. Paleocons are stuck in the past and all their ideas are failures.
Neoconservatism is an ideology stuck in 1998 with a track record over the ensuing years (let's say 2001-2006?) of catastrophic global failure.

Nah lol 2001-2006 was lit as hell I bet
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2020, 09:15:18 PM »
Is "Paleoconservatism without Rod Dreher" an option?
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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2020, 10:05:01 PM »
Quote from: Alben Barkley on November 13, 2020, 07:27:35 PM
Quote from: Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion on November 13, 2020, 07:19:08 PM
As a reactionary, I think I have to go with paleoconservatism.

Imagine proudly calling yourself a “reactionary.”

YIKES.

Imagine unironically saying "YIKES".
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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2020, 10:10:46 PM »
Quote from: BLM Supporters are Terrorists on November 14, 2020, 10:05:01 PM
Quote from: Alben Barkley on November 13, 2020, 07:27:35 PM
Quote from: Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion on November 13, 2020, 07:19:08 PM
As a reactionary, I think I have to go with paleoconservatism.

Imagine proudly calling yourself a “reactionary.”

YIKES.

Imagine unironically saying "YIKES".

YIKES
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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2020, 10:21:17 PM »
Write-in: First wave neocons. Daniel Patrick Moynihan types not Bill Kristol.
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