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« Reply #2200 on: May 05, 2022, 02:30:51 PM »

Hmmmm...

I see Trump may have to exercise the unendorsement  option again so soon after the last time he did so. SO MUCH WINNING!!!
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« Reply #2201 on: May 05, 2022, 02:53:14 PM »

Hmmmm...


America first, right?
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« Reply #2202 on: May 05, 2022, 04:19:49 PM »




As far as pandering campaign ads go, this *might* be one of more blatantly obvious instances I've seen.  

You can almost hear his campaign advisors:  

"Okay, so: we're still having trouble connecting with the 2nd amendment crowd.  Ideas?"

"How about we give him a shotgun and have him talk about how he loves guns?"

"Perfect.  I love it.  Let's have him talk about his dad and his son, too.  Throw the family angle in there." 
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« Reply #2203 on: May 05, 2022, 05:43:26 PM »




As far as pandering campaign ads go, this *might* be one of more blatantly obvious instances I've seen.  

You can almost hear his campaign advisors:  

"Okay, so: we're still having trouble connecting with the 2nd amendment crowd.  Ideas?"

"How about we give him a shotgun and have him talk about how he loves guns?"

"Perfect.  I love it.  Let's have him talk about his dad and his son, too.  Throw the family angle in there." 

Cringe. The 2A crowd will see through this blatant pandering, regardless of Oz's actual positions on gun rights.
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« Reply #2204 on: May 05, 2022, 06:16:15 PM »



Seethe and cope and cope and seethe
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« Reply #2205 on: May 05, 2022, 06:44:45 PM »



Seethe and cope and cope and seethe

Maybe this insufferable White Savior can start shrieking about The Dreaded Shotgun Incident some more.  Seems to be working out well for him.
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« Reply #2206 on: May 05, 2022, 08:13:50 PM »
« Edited: May 06, 2022, 07:27:57 AM by Hindsight was 2020 »

It’s time for Conor to drop out and endorse Fetterman for the good of the party
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« Reply #2207 on: May 05, 2022, 08:44:10 PM »

It’s time for Conor to drop out and endorse Fetterman for the hood of the party

Agreed tbh
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« Reply #2208 on: May 05, 2022, 09:35:22 PM »




Ad appears to be brand new, I saw it advertised before a non political video.
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« Reply #2209 on: May 05, 2022, 09:57:11 PM »
« Edited: May 05, 2022, 10:10:17 PM by Roll Roons »

It's kind of impressive how badly Lamb's campaign has flopped. The guy goes from winning a super-Trumpy district in a special to likely losing the Senate primary by 20-30 points.
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« Reply #2210 on: May 05, 2022, 10:21:31 PM »

It's amusing, to be honest. If Lamb is the best candidate, why isn't he crushing Fetterman in the polls?
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« Reply #2211 on: May 05, 2022, 11:46:17 PM »

It's amusing, to be honest. If Lamb is the best candidate, why isn't he crushing Fetterman in the polls?

This is what happens when you (1) spit on your base and (2) don’t get coronated by the establishment. In past election cycles, he may have been able to get away with this with the help of Chuck Schumer and the DSCC, but they have evidently decided to remain on the sidelines for this primary season (which, to me, is a good thing, since most of their past coronated primary candidates ended up falling short in their respective general election contests).
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« Reply #2212 on: May 06, 2022, 01:51:26 AM »

It's amusing, to be honest. If Lamb is the best candidate, why isn't he crushing Fetterman in the polls?
Why did Christine O'Donnell win the 2010 Deleware senate seat Primary over Mike Castle ?
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« Reply #2213 on: May 06, 2022, 02:09:04 AM »

It's amusing, to be honest. If Lamb is the best candidate, why isn't he crushing Fetterman in the polls?
Why did Christine O'Donnell win the 2010 Deleware senate seat Primary over Mike Castle ?

comparing a man who endorsed mask mandates in the year of our lord 2022

to a moderate republican who was a fit for his state

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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« Reply #2214 on: May 06, 2022, 07:18:22 AM »

At this point, if nothing changes between now and election day, I'll be voting for Fetterman, if anything to give him a stronger lead in the final result. Lamb just hasn't been able to connect and if he's really going down in the polls at this point, then there's nothing left to save him.

I will say, from a young persons standpoint, I do see quite a bit of people I know who are also young (millennial) who seem to like Fetterman's stuff, while many seem to have vitriol towards Lamb, so Fetterman seems like the best choice as well for youth turnout in the fall.
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« Reply #2215 on: May 06, 2022, 09:28:59 AM »

It's amusing, to be honest. If Lamb is the best candidate, why isn't he crushing Fetterman in the polls?

This is what happens when you (1) spit on your base and (2) don’t get coronated by the establishment. In past election cycles, he may have been able to get away with this with the help of Chuck Schumer and the DSCC, but they have evidently decided to remain on the sidelines for this primary season (which, to me, is a good thing, since most of their past coronated primary candidates ended up falling short in their respective general election contests).

Several establishment figures lined up behind him.  But when none of them resulted in any traction at all for Lamb, the big guns were never brought out.  If it was close Joe would've been rolled out in Scranton or whatever but at this point  - to get egg on his face like that is probably seen as counter-productive. 
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« Reply #2216 on: May 06, 2022, 09:31:22 AM »

Lord help me, I think I'm rooting for Barnette. Sands was always my preferred option, but she doesn't seem to have much of a chance. What a ridiculous race.
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« Reply #2217 on: May 06, 2022, 09:41:19 AM »

It's amusing, to be honest. If Lamb is the best candidate, why isn't he crushing Fetterman in the polls?

Objectively again, being on the ground in PA, Fetterman just has better name rec and that has always been helpful in driving him forward. Lamb certainly has clearly had issues connecting with voters, but I also think he overestimated how well known he was statewide.
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« Reply #2218 on: May 06, 2022, 09:57:13 AM »

My gut says Barnette wins the primary.
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« Reply #2219 on: May 06, 2022, 10:14:58 AM »

My gut says Barnette wins the primary.

I think so, too. Braun 2018 dynamic at play. Have to see whether or not she can get in front of voters in these remaining days, though. Braun had plenty to spend in a much smaller market.
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« Reply #2220 on: May 06, 2022, 10:26:16 AM »

My gut says Barnette wins the primary.

I think so, too. Braun 2018 dynamic at play. Have to see whether or not she can get in front of voters in these remaining days, though. Braun had plenty to spend in a much smaller market.

If Barnette had money to spend, she probably could. But her campaign cash has been extremely limited.
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« Reply #2221 on: May 06, 2022, 10:26:50 AM »

Something else to consider - Lamb may ultimately be okay with losing. Someone else in another forum brought up the idea that if Shapiro wins GOV, he's very likely to appoint Lamb as AG.
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« Reply #2222 on: May 06, 2022, 10:54:10 AM »

Republicans really dropped the ball with candidate recruitment on this one. If they win, it will be because of the national environment and Fetterman's own weaknesses as a candidate.
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« Reply #2223 on: May 06, 2022, 02:07:20 PM »

@ all the people who think Barnette is "weak" "too extreme" to win: she overperformed Trump by 5 in suburban Montgomery County-based PA-04 against an incumbent D in 2020.
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« Reply #2224 on: May 06, 2022, 03:01:40 PM »

@ all the people who think Barnette is "weak" "too extreme" to win: she overperformed Trump by 5 in suburban Montgomery County-based PA-04 against an incumbent D in 2020.

You're missing the point, and something I've already mentioned. In 2020, Barnette was an unknown commodity and I know several people who thought she was some type of 'moderate R.'

Problem for Barnette is that everything she did after the election in 2020 was bat sh**t insane and proved that she was way more extreme than originally thought
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